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            <title>Comment #1 by mearph</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 07:02:00 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Yay homemade cleaners</strong></p><p>Yay for making homemade cleaners. &nbsp;I don't understand people's need to bleach everything in the world.</p><p>
My favorites are:<br>
Baking soda is awesome for cleaning stains on formica counters and wall smudges (along with a million other things). &nbsp;It also was the only thing to get the coffee stains out of my travel thermos.</p><p>
10% white vinegar + water to clean carpets and bathrooms.<br>
ps. Don't get 100% white vinegar on ceramic tile. It dissolved my grout!</p><p>
Borax got a red wine stain out by soaking! Pretty good.</p><p>
I have a question for anyone...Is there anything 'natural' or 'non-toxic' that can clean mildew in the bathroom? &nbsp;You know, the black nasty kind in the grout. &nbsp;White vinegar does not work.</p><p>
Ok I just love talking about my homemade cleaners. &nbsp;It's my thing.</br></br></p>
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				<p><strong>Yay homemade cleaners</strong></p><p>Yay for making homemade cleaners. &nbsp;I don't understand people's need to bleach everything in the world.</p><p>
My favorites are:<br>
Baking soda is awesome for cleaning stains on formica counters and wall smudges (along with a million other things). &nbsp;It also was the only thing to get the coffee stains out of my travel thermos.</p><p>
10% white vinegar + water to clean carpets and bathrooms.<br>
ps. Don't get 100% white vinegar on ceramic tile. It dissolved my grout!</p><p>
Borax got a red wine stain out by soaking! Pretty good.</p><p>
I have a question for anyone...Is there anything 'natural' or 'non-toxic' that can clean mildew in the bathroom? &nbsp;You know, the black nasty kind in the grout. &nbsp;White vinegar does not work.</p><p>
Ok I just love talking about my homemade cleaners. &nbsp;It's my thing.</br></br></p>
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            <title>Comment #2 by barry</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 07:43:30 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Get Clean<p>The Shaklee Corp. has amazing products that clean without toxins,. Earth Day 1970 featured Shaklees H2 concentrated cleaner as the first biodegradable, non toxic cleaning product.<br>
The products were featured on Oprah on earthday.<br>
If you want to read more about these great products <a href="http://www.shaklee.net/asap/getclean" rel="nofollow">http://www.shaklee.net/asap/getclean.</a></br></br></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>Get Clean<p>The Shaklee Corp. has amazing products that clean without toxins,. Earth Day 1970 featured Shaklees H2 concentrated cleaner as the first biodegradable, non toxic cleaning product.<br>
The products were featured on Oprah on earthday.<br>
If you want to read more about these great products <a href="http://www.shaklee.net/asap/getclean" rel="nofollow">http://www.shaklee.net/asap/getclean.</a></br></br></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #3 by lgrayum</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 10:01:24 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>mildew in the grout</strong></p><p>Hi Mearph!</p><p>
Try some pure lemon juice mixed with baking soda, and old toothbrush and some elbow grease. &nbsp;Worked fabulous for me!</p>
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				<p><strong>mildew in the grout</strong></p><p>Hi Mearph!</p><p>
Try some pure lemon juice mixed with baking soda, and old toothbrush and some elbow grease. &nbsp;Worked fabulous for me!</p>
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            <title>Comment #4 by hollyls</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 10:14:49 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Another excellent store-bought all-purpose cleaner<p>Ed Begley, the actor and environmentalist, markets a line of cleaning products that he developed called "Begley's Best."<p>
A friend of mine gave the all-purpose cleaner a shot; he was initially skeptical about the versatility and thoroughness of this one cleaning product, but he has been won over by its ability to get the job done well. AND he said it has a nice scent, too.<p>
It is sold at a few specialty retail stores in California, but can be purchased from his website: <p>
<a href="http://www.begleysbest.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.begleysbest.com/<p>
Worth a look if you don't feel like being the mad scientist in the kitchen!</p></a></p></p></p></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>Another excellent store-bought all-purpose cleaner<p>Ed Begley, the actor and environmentalist, markets a line of cleaning products that he developed called "Begley's Best."<p>
A friend of mine gave the all-purpose cleaner a shot; he was initially skeptical about the versatility and thoroughness of this one cleaning product, but he has been won over by its ability to get the job done well. AND he said it has a nice scent, too.<p>
It is sold at a few specialty retail stores in California, but can be purchased from his website: <p>
<a href="http://www.begleysbest.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.begleysbest.com/<p>
Worth a look if you don't feel like being the mad scientist in the kitchen!</p></a></p></p></p></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #5 by stevejust</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 13:15:46 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>green cleaning<p>Green cleaning is rapidly becoming a big business.<p>
For example, in LA, we have at least three different services, one of which is: &nbsp;<a href="http://www.greencleanla.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.greencleanla.com/<p>
If I were you, I'd search for an "eco maid" in your area.<br>
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				<p><strong>green cleaning<p>Green cleaning is rapidly becoming a big business.<p>
For example, in LA, we have at least three different services, one of which is: &nbsp;<a href="http://www.greencleanla.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.greencleanla.com/<p>
If I were you, I'd search for an "eco maid" in your area.<br>
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            <title>Comment #6 by mjgoeglein</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 03:27:07 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>what about bluing for whites?</strong></p><p>I recently bought some bluing at a grocery store as a bleach alternative for laundry (safe for whites and colors). &nbsp;</p><p>
Does anyone know of any reason NOT to use bluing? &nbsp;The website for the particular brand that I bought says that it is environmentally friendly, but that doesn't always mean anything, as we all know. &nbsp;</p>
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				<p><strong>what about bluing for whites?</strong></p><p>I recently bought some bluing at a grocery store as a bleach alternative for laundry (safe for whites and colors). &nbsp;</p><p>
Does anyone know of any reason NOT to use bluing? &nbsp;The website for the particular brand that I bought says that it is environmentally friendly, but that doesn't always mean anything, as we all know. &nbsp;</p>
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            <title>Comment #7 by thelemily</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 03:27:44 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>method<p>I really like <a href="http://www.methodhome.com/" rel="nofollow">method brand cleansers - they've worked GREAT for me. &nbsp;They are supposedly "naturally derived, non-hazardous, biodegradable and non-corrosive."</a></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>method<p>I really like <a href="http://www.methodhome.com/" rel="nofollow">method brand cleansers - they've worked GREAT for me. &nbsp;They are supposedly "naturally derived, non-hazardous, biodegradable and non-corrosive."</a></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #8 by amc89</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 07:17:01 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>size of home</strong></p><p>My thoughts are that if you need a maid to clean your home, that's an indication your home is too big. </p>
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				<p><strong>size of home</strong></p><p>My thoughts are that if you need a maid to clean your home, that's an indication your home is too big. </p>
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            <title>Comment #9 by stock7</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 08:54:13 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Non-Toxic Household Cleaners<p>For several years I have been a customer and an independent representative of Melaleuca, The Wellness Company. &nbsp;As a regular monthly customer I save roughly 30% of what a one-time customer would pay for cleaning supplies, plus I get 10% back in "Advantage Dollars" by ordering monthly by the 15th. &nbsp;They offer a wonderful line of cleaning products, all melaleuca (Australian tea tree oil) based, which as you know is an antibacterial, emulsifier, healer, and biodegradeable substance from nature. &nbsp;Meleauca offers these products cheaply and in a concentrated product line because they do not ship water. &nbsp;You reconstitute them in provided spray or pump bottles. &nbsp;I absolutely love their product line, and I think your cleaning ladies out there would as well. &nbsp;They even have a product which kills mold, as well as one you spray in your shower to make real cleaning a cinch when you finally get to that. &nbsp;They offer a start up pack called Eco Sense Home Conversion Pack. &nbsp;You can put all the toxics in a bucket in your garage to unload to a local charity and enjoy all the cleaning you do! &nbsp;Please call Diane at (541) 388-6863, (JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)
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, &nbsp;or just visit &nbsp;<a href="http://www.melaleuca.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.melaleuca.com/. You will be so glad you did. &nbsp;It's refreshing to get all these economical, concentrated products on your doorstep and never have to walk the stinky aisle at the grocery store.</a></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>Non-Toxic Household Cleaners<p>For several years I have been a customer and an independent representative of Melaleuca, The Wellness Company. &nbsp;As a regular monthly customer I save roughly 30% of what a one-time customer would pay for cleaning supplies, plus I get 10% back in "Advantage Dollars" by ordering monthly by the 15th. &nbsp;They offer a wonderful line of cleaning products, all melaleuca (Australian tea tree oil) based, which as you know is an antibacterial, emulsifier, healer, and biodegradeable substance from nature. &nbsp;Meleauca offers these products cheaply and in a concentrated product line because they do not ship water. &nbsp;You reconstitute them in provided spray or pump bottles. &nbsp;I absolutely love their product line, and I think your cleaning ladies out there would as well. &nbsp;They even have a product which kills mold, as well as one you spray in your shower to make real cleaning a cinch when you finally get to that. &nbsp;They offer a start up pack called Eco Sense Home Conversion Pack. &nbsp;You can put all the toxics in a bucket in your garage to unload to a local charity and enjoy all the cleaning you do! &nbsp;Please call Diane at (541) 388-6863, (JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)
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, &nbsp;or just visit &nbsp;<a href="http://www.melaleuca.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.melaleuca.com/. You will be so glad you did. &nbsp;It's refreshing to get all these economical, concentrated products on your doorstep and never have to walk the stinky aisle at the grocery store.</a></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #10 by brojiley</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 12:07:43 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>How Clean Is Your House?<p>This is my new favorite show, it's on BBC America. &nbsp;Two really funny women clean horrendous houses using the most basic things, they even cleaned copper using ketchup (acidity from tomatoes and vinegar). &nbsp;They usually stick with household products like baking soda rather than anything storebought and rarely use bleach. &nbsp;They have a book with tips but I can't vouch for it because I haven't read it but it may be helpful to some: <a href="http://www.amazon.co.uk/How-Clean-Your-House-Woodburn/dp/0141018801/ref=pd_sim_b_1/026-2005321-5991645" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.co.uk/How-Clean-Your-House-Woodburn/dp/ ...<p>
One episode they cleaned a very nasty bathtub with half of a grapefruit with salt pored inside, rubbed it all over to cut the grime, then followed by nylon scrubby. &nbsp;I cooked that night and had the better part of a lemon left over in which I pored coarse salt and went to town on my bathtub, worked well and smelled good. &nbsp;Then I composted the remains of the lemon when I was done! &nbsp;<p>
Also, my favorite tip is what they made into an odor-absorbing fragrant sachet--baking soda, lemon zest, contents of a few bags peppermint tea, fragrance oil optional. &nbsp;So much better than all that polluting home fragrance crap they sell in stores!</p></p></a></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>How Clean Is Your House?<p>This is my new favorite show, it's on BBC America. &nbsp;Two really funny women clean horrendous houses using the most basic things, they even cleaned copper using ketchup (acidity from tomatoes and vinegar). &nbsp;They usually stick with household products like baking soda rather than anything storebought and rarely use bleach. &nbsp;They have a book with tips but I can't vouch for it because I haven't read it but it may be helpful to some: <a href="http://www.amazon.co.uk/How-Clean-Your-House-Woodburn/dp/0141018801/ref=pd_sim_b_1/026-2005321-5991645" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.co.uk/How-Clean-Your-House-Woodburn/dp/ ...<p>
One episode they cleaned a very nasty bathtub with half of a grapefruit with salt pored inside, rubbed it all over to cut the grime, then followed by nylon scrubby. &nbsp;I cooked that night and had the better part of a lemon left over in which I pored coarse salt and went to town on my bathtub, worked well and smelled good. &nbsp;Then I composted the remains of the lemon when I was done! &nbsp;<p>
Also, my favorite tip is what they made into an odor-absorbing fragrant sachet--baking soda, lemon zest, contents of a few bags peppermint tea, fragrance oil optional. &nbsp;So much better than all that polluting home fragrance crap they sell in stores!</p></p></a></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #11 by miken32</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 12:27:58 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>no Method for me</strong></p><p>We gave Method's dish detergent a try and it smelled really nice but ruined our hands. We then realized that the main ingredient is alcohol, and that pretty much explained it. We're Seventh Generation fans for the most part.</p>
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				<p><strong>no Method for me</strong></p><p>We gave Method's dish detergent a try and it smelled really nice but ruined our hands. We then realized that the main ingredient is alcohol, and that pretty much explained it. We're Seventh Generation fans for the most part.</p>
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            <title>Comment #12 by Eriro</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 02:30:14 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Store-bought cleaners</strong></p><p>Ecover and Seventh Generation are my favorite store-bought cleaners, and they have products for everything. &nbsp;Does anyone know where to buy glass spray-bottles? &nbsp;I'm really trying to reduce the use of plastic in our home, and I would like to start making our own cleaners. &nbsp;</p>
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				<p><strong>Store-bought cleaners</strong></p><p>Ecover and Seventh Generation are my favorite store-bought cleaners, and they have products for everything. &nbsp;Does anyone know where to buy glass spray-bottles? &nbsp;I'm really trying to reduce the use of plastic in our home, and I would like to start making our own cleaners. &nbsp;</p>
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            <title>Comment #13 by Greta</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 09:53:16 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Alternative Spray Bottles<p>I too try to reduce the use of plastics. &nbsp;Am in need of a spray bottle, as well.<p>
I am looking at what might normally be marketed as plant misters -- in metal or ceramic. &nbsp;Did a quick Google search ("metal plant mister") and found some ideas, such as:<p>
<a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/Nice-Ceramic-Plant-Mister-or-Atomizer_W0QQitemZ190160168269QQcmdZViewItem" rel="nofollow">http://cgi.ebay.com/Nice-Ceramic-Plant-Mister-or-Atomizer ...<p>
A bronze one might not be a good choice for household cleaners, as the ingredients might react poorly (hazardously??) with the bronze. &nbsp;But, would think that metal or ceramic would be good options.</p></a></p></p></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>Alternative Spray Bottles<p>I too try to reduce the use of plastics. &nbsp;Am in need of a spray bottle, as well.<p>
I am looking at what might normally be marketed as plant misters -- in metal or ceramic. &nbsp;Did a quick Google search ("metal plant mister") and found some ideas, such as:<p>
<a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/Nice-Ceramic-Plant-Mister-or-Atomizer_W0QQitemZ190160168269QQcmdZViewItem" rel="nofollow">http://cgi.ebay.com/Nice-Ceramic-Plant-Mister-or-Atomizer ...<p>
A bronze one might not be a good choice for household cleaners, as the ingredients might react poorly (hazardously??) with the bronze. &nbsp;But, would think that metal or ceramic would be good options.</p></a></p></p></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #14 by ChrisScott</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 14:00:06 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>AVOID GreenClean LA!<p>I noticed someone had mentioned GreenClean LA in a posting below. &nbsp;(<a href="http://www.greencleanla.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.greencleanla.com/). &nbsp;In my opinion, that particular service is to be avoided at all cost! &nbsp;<p>
To make a long story short, they arrived to my house over an hour late, did a mediocre job cleaning, and broke a vase in the process. &nbsp;They also took hours longer than they had quoted, so the final bill was almost twice the original estimate. &nbsp;If you're in the LA area, you'll be wise to take your business elsewhere.</p></a></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>AVOID GreenClean LA!<p>I noticed someone had mentioned GreenClean LA in a posting below. &nbsp;(<a href="http://www.greencleanla.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.greencleanla.com/). &nbsp;In my opinion, that particular service is to be avoided at all cost! &nbsp;<p>
To make a long story short, they arrived to my house over an hour late, did a mediocre job cleaning, and broke a vase in the process. &nbsp;They also took hours longer than they had quoted, so the final bill was almost twice the original estimate. &nbsp;If you're in the LA area, you'll be wise to take your business elsewhere.</p></a></p></strong></p>
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