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            <title>Comment #1 by Tom Turner</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2004 07:26:01 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Worldwatch</strong></p><p>Fascinating and depressing. Ed Ayres is a great guy and a fine editor. Chris Flavin should be embarassed. But I want to know more about Les Brown's departure. He was ousted? How did that come down? He's still doing his think, more power too him. What happened in 2001? Anyone know?

<p>Tom Turner</p></p>
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				<p><strong>Worldwatch</strong></p><p>Fascinating and depressing. Ed Ayres is a great guy and a fine editor. Chris Flavin should be embarassed. But I want to know more about Les Brown's departure. He was ousted? How did that come down? He's still doing his think, more power too him. What happened in 2001? Anyone know?

<p>Tom Turner</p></p>
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            <title>Comment #2 by cbloom</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2004 13:59:34 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Ford Foundation, Kathryn Fuller</strong></p><p>No wonder the environment will never get better. You guys are worried about Bush but &nbsp;the BIG worry is people like Kathryn Fuller, the Ford Foundation and everyone else that is only really interested in global trade and global big bucks. The environmental movement, just like the immigration/population movement, has to come to grips with the amount of money and power that is the enemy. &nbsp;</p>
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				<p><strong>Ford Foundation, Kathryn Fuller</strong></p><p>No wonder the environment will never get better. You guys are worried about Bush but &nbsp;the BIG worry is people like Kathryn Fuller, the Ford Foundation and everyone else that is only really interested in global trade and global big bucks. The environmental movement, just like the immigration/population movement, has to come to grips with the amount of money and power that is the enemy. &nbsp;</p>
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            <title>Comment #3 by tbrennan</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2004 23:15:05 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Lester's whereabouts<p>After leaving Worldwatch, Lester Brown set up the Earth Policy Institute where he continues to do outstanding work. You can learn more at <a href="http://www.earth-policy.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.earth-policy.org</a></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>Lester's whereabouts<p>After leaving Worldwatch, Lester Brown set up the Earth Policy Institute where he continues to do outstanding work. You can learn more at <a href="http://www.earth-policy.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.earth-policy.org</a></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #4 by Ed Ayres</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 26 Nov 2004 03:31:59 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Worldwatch Kerfuffle</strong></p><p>The item "Worldwatch Kerfuffle" (Nov. 23), which suggests that I was forced into "fleeing the coop" as editor of World Watch magazine, contains serious distortions. &nbsp;My retirement, which is effective November 30, has nothing to do with the firestorm resulting from Mac Chapin's "Challenge to Conservationists" in the November/December issue. &nbsp;I gave two months' notice of my forthcoming retirement in a meeting I had with the Worldwatch president, Chris Flavin, on September 30--long before he saw the article. &nbsp;And regardless whether anyone at Worldwatch Institute may later have had "cold feet" about publishing this piece, I think we all agreed in the end that it was the right thing to do. &nbsp;If we had capitulated to the pressure put on us by one of the organizations examined by Chapin, which got hold of a pre-publication draft of the article and made a not-very-subtle attempt to have us kill it, Lisa Hymas might have had reason to speak of the "irony" of Worldwatch being intimidated by fear of offending its funders--but we did not kill it. &nbsp;The "big three" international conservation organizations are all squirming now, but they are also taking the issues raised by the article to heart. &nbsp;Ultimately, their missions and ours are in accord. The interdependent causes of biodiversity conservation and indigenous rights and livelihoods will get a great boost from the debate this article has stimulated, and it's a shame to see that prospect clouded by irresponsible rumor-mongering, especially in such a reputable forum as Grist. </p><p>
Ed Ayres<br>
Editor, World Watch &nbsp;<br>
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				<p><strong>Worldwatch Kerfuffle</strong></p><p>The item "Worldwatch Kerfuffle" (Nov. 23), which suggests that I was forced into "fleeing the coop" as editor of World Watch magazine, contains serious distortions. &nbsp;My retirement, which is effective November 30, has nothing to do with the firestorm resulting from Mac Chapin's "Challenge to Conservationists" in the November/December issue. &nbsp;I gave two months' notice of my forthcoming retirement in a meeting I had with the Worldwatch president, Chris Flavin, on September 30--long before he saw the article. &nbsp;And regardless whether anyone at Worldwatch Institute may later have had "cold feet" about publishing this piece, I think we all agreed in the end that it was the right thing to do. &nbsp;If we had capitulated to the pressure put on us by one of the organizations examined by Chapin, which got hold of a pre-publication draft of the article and made a not-very-subtle attempt to have us kill it, Lisa Hymas might have had reason to speak of the "irony" of Worldwatch being intimidated by fear of offending its funders--but we did not kill it. &nbsp;The "big three" international conservation organizations are all squirming now, but they are also taking the issues raised by the article to heart. &nbsp;Ultimately, their missions and ours are in accord. The interdependent causes of biodiversity conservation and indigenous rights and livelihoods will get a great boost from the debate this article has stimulated, and it's a shame to see that prospect clouded by irresponsible rumor-mongering, especially in such a reputable forum as Grist. </p><p>
Ed Ayres<br>
Editor, World Watch &nbsp;<br>
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