<![CDATA[Grist - Comment Feed for New Wired green issue goes a little overboard]]> Grist Comment Feed en Comment #1 by biggie green http://www.grist.org/article/wired-cheerleading/ Thu, 27 Apr 2006 12:14:46 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/wired-cheerleading/1 the hammer

You nailed the neo-greens' twin heads of Inspiration and Irritation -- hopefully bursting the latter before it eats its own.

By the way, "Alex Nicolai Steffen (now with more moniker!)": brutally funny. But don't think your ascension from Dave to David went unnoticed!

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You nailed the neo-greens' twin heads of Inspiration and Irritation -- hopefully bursting the latter before it eats its own.

By the way, "Alex Nicolai Steffen (now with more moniker!)": brutally funny. But don't think your ascension from Dave to David went unnoticed!

]]> Comment #2 by bookerly http://www.grist.org/article/wired-cheerleading/ Thu, 27 Apr 2006 12:35:43 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/wired-cheerleading/2 Hemp shirts


  Back when I had a job that paid lots of money, I started buying hemp clothing (damn expensive, sixty bucks for a shirt).  They were hardly frumpy.  I still have a couple (almost eight years old, and going strong) and am regularly told that they are more fashionable than my other clothes....... umm, wait a minute, let me think about that..... hmmm.

  Anyway, Wired magazine wants to be sort of a right wing Vanity Fair for the tech set (ouch, I forgot, they are our friends this week).  I don't know that anything they say should be taken too seriously (their design reminds me of a Mad Magazine parody to be called "What would Newsweek look like if the staff all drew with crayons while take drugs".

   David, you can't be bitchy enough with those folks!! (smile).

Patrick

]]> Hemp shirts


  Back when I had a job that paid lots of money, I started buying hemp clothing (damn expensive, sixty bucks for a shirt).  They were hardly frumpy.  I still have a couple (almost eight years old, and going strong) and am regularly told that they are more fashionable than my other clothes....... umm, wait a minute, let me think about that..... hmmm.

  Anyway, Wired magazine wants to be sort of a right wing Vanity Fair for the tech set (ouch, I forgot, they are our friends this week).  I don't know that anything they say should be taken too seriously (their design reminds me of a Mad Magazine parody to be called "What would Newsweek look like if the staff all drew with crayons while take drugs".

   David, you can't be bitchy enough with those folks!! (smile).

Patrick

]]> Comment #3 by David Roberts http://www.grist.org/article/wired-cheerleading/ Thu, 27 Apr 2006 13:01:04 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/wired-cheerleading/3 called out

But don't think your ascension from Dave to David went unnoticed!

Touché!

www.grist.org

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But don't think your ascension from Dave to David went unnoticed!

Touché!

www.grist.org

]]> Comment #4 by Michael Boydston http://www.grist.org/article/wired-cheerleading/ Thu, 27 Apr 2006 13:37:31 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/wired-cheerleading/4 anti-nostalgia

Ah, Wired.  I subscribed for several years in the 1990s, after picking up a used copy of this odd oversized magazine with William Gibson on the cover.  And, I confess, I dug a whole bunch of the techno-futurist stuff.  What I didn't dig -- what made me cancel my subscription -- was a puff piece on Julian Simon, Mr. Everything is Fungible and Human Ingenuity Can Solve Any Problem Humans Create.  Blecch.  (I should have realized earlier that the people who put the magazine together did not value nature when I read in one of those first issues an ode to the joy of driving a Humvee across the Nevada desert.)  The Simon piece was the one that inspired Bjorn Lomborg to write The Skeptical Environmentalist.  GIGO, you might say.

None of which is too relevant to the current issue, except to say that the annoying things David noticed have been a part of Wired for many a moon. Nonetheless, it's good to see Wired paying attention to our climate problems. Their first global warming cover story is much more likely to change minds than is, say, Sierra's 32nd take on the subject.  

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Ah, Wired.  I subscribed for several years in the 1990s, after picking up a used copy of this odd oversized magazine with William Gibson on the cover.  And, I confess, I dug a whole bunch of the techno-futurist stuff.  What I didn't dig -- what made me cancel my subscription -- was a puff piece on Julian Simon, Mr. Everything is Fungible and Human Ingenuity Can Solve Any Problem Humans Create.  Blecch.  (I should have realized earlier that the people who put the magazine together did not value nature when I read in one of those first issues an ode to the joy of driving a Humvee across the Nevada desert.)  The Simon piece was the one that inspired Bjorn Lomborg to write The Skeptical Environmentalist.  GIGO, you might say.

None of which is too relevant to the current issue, except to say that the annoying things David noticed have been a part of Wired for many a moon. Nonetheless, it's good to see Wired paying attention to our climate problems. Their first global warming cover story is much more likely to change minds than is, say, Sierra's 32nd take on the subject.  

]]> Comment #5 by accel2 http://www.grist.org/article/wired-cheerleading/ Fri, 28 Apr 2006 00:16:54 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/wired-cheerleading/5 Another former Wired subscriber

In college, during the tech boom, when I was teaching myself web design (and was also at my most environmental and political activist), I really felt that technology would save the world and it was simple as that.  Of course, I was in college, so I also felt that if I led a protest of McDonalds in Burlington, VT it would make a real difference, and that Marxism would eventually prevail. sigh What a naif I was.

At any rate, at this time I also subscribed to Wired Magazine, and I loved their optimism.  However, as time went by, and the dot-com boom hit its climax, their optimism turned to arrogance, and their slightly geeky alterna-cyber-punk-outsider subversiveness turned into "I used to be a geek but now I'm a rich geek so I dress slick and gel my hair in that perfectly kempt-unkempt way and now I'm no longer an outsider but just as corruptible as the old white male corporate head I replaced."  Yeah, at about that point I angrily canceled my subscription.  They came out with an article that perfectly epitomized the foolish sentiment - "The Long Boom" which I totally bought at the time.  Ironically 2 years later the recession hit. (I just found this humorous link in the process: "Wired's Worst Stories" [http://www.aether.com/archives/000009.html)

]]> Another former Wired subscriber

In college, during the tech boom, when I was teaching myself web design (and was also at my most environmental and political activist), I really felt that technology would save the world and it was simple as that.  Of course, I was in college, so I also felt that if I led a protest of McDonalds in Burlington, VT it would make a real difference, and that Marxism would eventually prevail. sigh What a naif I was.

At any rate, at this time I also subscribed to Wired Magazine, and I loved their optimism.  However, as time went by, and the dot-com boom hit its climax, their optimism turned to arrogance, and their slightly geeky alterna-cyber-punk-outsider subversiveness turned into "I used to be a geek but now I'm a rich geek so I dress slick and gel my hair in that perfectly kempt-unkempt way and now I'm no longer an outsider but just as corruptible as the old white male corporate head I replaced."  Yeah, at about that point I angrily canceled my subscription.  They came out with an article that perfectly epitomized the foolish sentiment - "The Long Boom" which I totally bought at the time.  Ironically 2 years later the recession hit. (I just found this humorous link in the process: "Wired's Worst Stories" [http://www.aether.com/archives/000009.html)

]]> Comment #6 by accel2 http://www.grist.org/article/wired-cheerleading/ Fri, 28 Apr 2006 00:17:48 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/wired-cheerleading/6 Corrected links

The Long Boom: http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/5.07/longboom.html
Wired's Worst Stories: http://www.aether.com/archives/000009.html

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The Long Boom: http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/5.07/longboom.html
Wired's Worst Stories: http://www.aether.com/archives/000009.html

]]> Comment #7 by amazingdrx http://www.grist.org/article/wired-cheerleading/ Fri, 28 Apr 2006 01:03:53 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/wired-cheerleading/7 great link.

I still like the way wired made one feel, or was that my tech stocks going up every week?

Now if we could capture that revolution per month and exponential growth zap for renewable energy and electric cars?  Zoom.

Oh yeah, that's what my blog tries.  Whoops.  Hehehey.

http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog

]]> great link.

I still like the way wired made one feel, or was that my tech stocks going up every week?

Now if we could capture that revolution per month and exponential growth zap for renewable energy and electric cars?  Zoom.

Oh yeah, that's what my blog tries.  Whoops.  Hehehey.

http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog

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