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            <title>Comment #1 by Jason D Scorse</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 00:58:10 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Yes...subsidies=increased use<p>welcome to Econ 1- but seriously, this is why subsidies, even for good things, are problematic and not a first-best option.

<p>I teach environmental economics and blog at <a href="http://www.voicesofreason.info" rel="nofollow">http://www.voicesofreason.info.</a></p></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>Yes...subsidies=increased use<p>welcome to Econ 1- but seriously, this is why subsidies, even for good things, are problematic and not a first-best option.

<p>I teach environmental economics and blog at <a href="http://www.voicesofreason.info" rel="nofollow">http://www.voicesofreason.info.</a></p></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #2 by Delay And Deny</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 01:35:28 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>I wouldn't even have a Phillipines<p><br>
Under the Bailo Population Plan which calls for:<p>
One child per couple worldwide<p>
Population will be cut drastically.<p>
Places like The Philippines would be reverted back to natural habitats...there would be no need for tons of electricity.

<p>John Bailo<br>
<a href="http://sutext.texeme.com" rel="nofollow">Sutext:</a></br></p></p></p></p></br></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>I wouldn't even have a Phillipines<p><br>
Under the Bailo Population Plan which calls for:<p>
One child per couple worldwide<p>
Population will be cut drastically.<p>
Places like The Philippines would be reverted back to natural habitats...there would be no need for tons of electricity.

<p>John Bailo<br>
<a href="http://sutext.texeme.com" rel="nofollow">Sutext:</a></br></p></p></p></p></br></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #3 by mihan</title>
			<link>http://www.grist.org/article/why-sustainable-development-is-so-damn-hard-philippines-edition/</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 03:52:34 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>wha?</strong></p><p>"places like The Philippines"? So, you're a racist, too? If anything, "places like the Philippines", (where plant and animal food sources and fresh water are abundant and there is no need to heat homes) should stay on the map and most of the US should revert back to natural habitat.</p><p>
Good god, I can't believe I fed it.</p>
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				<p><strong>wha?</strong></p><p>"places like The Philippines"? So, you're a racist, too? If anything, "places like the Philippines", (where plant and animal food sources and fresh water are abundant and there is no need to heat homes) should stay on the map and most of the US should revert back to natural habitat.</p><p>
Good god, I can't believe I fed it.</p>
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            <title>Comment #4 by Colin Wright</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 04:37:41 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Why isn't the U.S. gov't doing this?</strong></p><p>It's hard for me to judge the merits of this example. But encouraging industrial growth around geothermal power plants seems to me like a good idea.</p><p>
Already, aluminum production is leaving places like the US and heading to hydro-rich areas like Siberia. But if we are going to need millions of wind turbines, it would be good to have aluminum smelters here. (We have plenty of geothermal resources in the West.)</p><p>
I don't know if the Phillipines has a supply of bauxite, but if they did they could vitually guarantee themselves supply of a very useful metal, and perhaps a light-industrial manufacturing base. This may not make sense with the current neoliberal, cheap-energy, outsourcing paradigm, but in does to those of us promoting a relocalization paradigm, particularly one that foresees a decent standard of living.</p>
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				<p><strong>Why isn't the U.S. gov't doing this?</strong></p><p>It's hard for me to judge the merits of this example. But encouraging industrial growth around geothermal power plants seems to me like a good idea.</p><p>
Already, aluminum production is leaving places like the US and heading to hydro-rich areas like Siberia. But if we are going to need millions of wind turbines, it would be good to have aluminum smelters here. (We have plenty of geothermal resources in the West.)</p><p>
I don't know if the Phillipines has a supply of bauxite, but if they did they could vitually guarantee themselves supply of a very useful metal, and perhaps a light-industrial manufacturing base. This may not make sense with the current neoliberal, cheap-energy, outsourcing paradigm, but in does to those of us promoting a relocalization paradigm, particularly one that foresees a decent standard of living.</p>
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