<![CDATA[Grist - Comment Feed for A great <em>WSJ</em> video on the mad economics of cow farming]]> Grist Comment Feed en Comment #1 by Erik Hoffner http://www.grist.org/article/why-market-conditions-mean-more-mm-fed-beef-and-less-grass-fed/ Fri, 08 Aug 2008 22:20:08 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/why-market-conditions-mean-more-mm-fed-beef-and-less-grass-fed/1 junk

Oh my lord, how rich is that, industrial meat raised on junk food.

It's amazing to think about feeding highly processed food to critters just to make meat. Such a waste, but I suppose the chips and m/ms could be, what, old or unfit for human consumption? Guess that'd make it waste recycling, but feeding animals junk just sounds like a bad idea.

Erik

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Oh my lord, how rich is that, industrial meat raised on junk food.

It's amazing to think about feeding highly processed food to critters just to make meat. Such a waste, but I suppose the chips and m/ms could be, what, old or unfit for human consumption? Guess that'd make it waste recycling, but feeding animals junk just sounds like a bad idea.

Erik

The Orion Grassroots Network: supporting grassroots groups working for conservation, justice, & more

]]> Comment #2 by caniscandida http://www.grist.org/article/why-market-conditions-mean-more-mm-fed-beef-and-less-grass-fed/ Sat, 09 Aug 2008 00:57:31 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/why-market-conditions-mean-more-mm-fed-beef-and-less-grass-fed/2 "bad idea"

It is astounding that the networking is such, that as soon as corn got really expensive, cattle-CAFO-ists knew at once to go knocking on the back door of the candy manufacturers, to ask for their collected crumbs.

One wonders if veterinarians/veterinary nutritionists were at any point consulted on how a diet of M&M husks might affect the health and well-being of cattle -- not that anyone particularly cares about the health and well-being of cattle, apparently, except for the handful of us marginalized flakes, seeing that the cattle are just machines, designed to grow big and be slaughtered in a matter of months.

And if the veterinarians have indeed signed off on this, one wonders if their professional code of ethics means anything at all.

Chickens deserve our true friendship! So do fish! So do other sentient beings! Let us learn to be kind.

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It is astounding that the networking is such, that as soon as corn got really expensive, cattle-CAFO-ists knew at once to go knocking on the back door of the candy manufacturers, to ask for their collected crumbs.

One wonders if veterinarians/veterinary nutritionists were at any point consulted on how a diet of M&M husks might affect the health and well-being of cattle -- not that anyone particularly cares about the health and well-being of cattle, apparently, except for the handful of us marginalized flakes, seeing that the cattle are just machines, designed to grow big and be slaughtered in a matter of months.

And if the veterinarians have indeed signed off on this, one wonders if their professional code of ethics means anything at all.

Chickens deserve our true friendship! So do fish! So do other sentient beings! Let us learn to be kind.

]]> Comment #3 by Jason D Scorse http://www.grist.org/article/why-market-conditions-mean-more-mm-fed-beef-and-less-grass-fed/ Sat, 09 Aug 2008 03:56:26 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/why-market-conditions-mean-more-mm-fed-beef-and-less-grass-fed/3 Reason #135335 to be a vegetarian

as if environmentalists needed any more reasons....

We need to focus on the root causes of problems. http://www.voicesofreason.info.

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as if environmentalists needed any more reasons....

We need to focus on the root causes of problems. http://www.voicesofreason.info.

]]> Comment #4 by Wolverine http://www.grist.org/article/why-market-conditions-mean-more-mm-fed-beef-and-less-grass-fed/ Sat, 09 Aug 2008 07:57:01 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/why-market-conditions-mean-more-mm-fed-beef-and-less-grass-fed/4 Potentially Good News!

Maybe these razor thin profit margins will become negative cash flows and put an end to animal husbandry, which is both cruel to animals and ecologically and environmentally destructive.  People should be vegans unless they're willing to hunt for their meat.

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Maybe these razor thin profit margins will become negative cash flows and put an end to animal husbandry, which is both cruel to animals and ecologically and environmentally destructive.  People should be vegans unless they're willing to hunt for their meat.

]]> Comment #5 by caniscandida http://www.grist.org/article/why-market-conditions-mean-more-mm-fed-beef-and-less-grass-fed/ Sat, 09 Aug 2008 08:47:21 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/why-market-conditions-mean-more-mm-fed-beef-and-less-grass-fed/5 a Jewish thing?

Jews everywhere must be embarrassed and disgusted by the Agriprocessors Inc. scandal.  Jews who own and run the largest kosher slaughterhouse in the US have been shown to have mightily abused their non-Jewish, non-American, non-white, non-English-speaking, extremely vulnerable workers.

The editors of the NY Times already have written a powerful editorial, denouncing both the owners/employers for their long, cold-hearted abuse, and the US government for the disgraceful way in which they made sorry examples of these miserable people.

Rabbi Shmuel Herzfeld stepped forward, to write a good op/ed:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/06/opinion/06herzfeld.html ....

Good, but not great.  No doubt, many Jews are wringing their hands over the human-rights issues -- and that is a very good thing.  But let us remember that the several biblical traditions, the various forms of Judaism, Christianity and Islam, are disgracefully anthropocentric: only human beings count.

Well, no, that is not true.  Not only is it not true, it is one of the wickedest falsehoods ever promulgated.  In fact, we are animals, animals are us, and our treatment of animals is an important part of our ethics, whether or not we are smart/brave enough to recognize it.

Rabbi Shmuel surely has enough to deal with right now, with all those mistreated, confused and imprisoned Guatemalan Mayan immigrants.  Sure: one step at a time.  But let us hope that other Jews will step up now and protest the hideous abuse of animals in the kosher slaughter system.

Chickens deserve our true friendship! So do fish! So do other sentient beings! Let us learn to be kind.

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Jews everywhere must be embarrassed and disgusted by the Agriprocessors Inc. scandal.  Jews who own and run the largest kosher slaughterhouse in the US have been shown to have mightily abused their non-Jewish, non-American, non-white, non-English-speaking, extremely vulnerable workers.

The editors of the NY Times already have written a powerful editorial, denouncing both the owners/employers for their long, cold-hearted abuse, and the US government for the disgraceful way in which they made sorry examples of these miserable people.

Rabbi Shmuel Herzfeld stepped forward, to write a good op/ed:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/06/opinion/06herzfeld.html ....

Good, but not great.  No doubt, many Jews are wringing their hands over the human-rights issues -- and that is a very good thing.  But let us remember that the several biblical traditions, the various forms of Judaism, Christianity and Islam, are disgracefully anthropocentric: only human beings count.

Well, no, that is not true.  Not only is it not true, it is one of the wickedest falsehoods ever promulgated.  In fact, we are animals, animals are us, and our treatment of animals is an important part of our ethics, whether or not we are smart/brave enough to recognize it.

Rabbi Shmuel surely has enough to deal with right now, with all those mistreated, confused and imprisoned Guatemalan Mayan immigrants.  Sure: one step at a time.  But let us hope that other Jews will step up now and protest the hideous abuse of animals in the kosher slaughter system.

Chickens deserve our true friendship! So do fish! So do other sentient beings! Let us learn to be kind.

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