<![CDATA[Grist - Comment Feed for Vote for the most villainous eco-villain of 2007]]> Grist Comment Feed en Comment #1 by randino http://www.grist.org/article/whos-the-meanest-of-them-all/ Thu, 20 Dec 2007 22:09:28 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/whos-the-meanest-of-them-all/1 VOTE FOR MURRAY

He is known for Utah, but the Buckeye Forest Council knows him as our nemesis in the fight to stop coal mining beneath the old growth Dysart Woods in SE Ohio. A first class bastard who deserves the vote of all native forest activists.

Randy Cunningham

Randy Cunningham

]]> VOTE FOR MURRAY

He is known for Utah, but the Buckeye Forest Council knows him as our nemesis in the fight to stop coal mining beneath the old growth Dysart Woods in SE Ohio. A first class bastard who deserves the vote of all native forest activists.

Randy Cunningham

Randy Cunningham

]]> Comment #2 by Fish out of water http://www.grist.org/article/whos-the-meanest-of-them-all/ Thu, 20 Dec 2007 23:46:14 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/whos-the-meanest-of-them-all/2 Duh

Bush

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Bush

]]> Comment #3 by PermieWriter http://www.grist.org/article/whos-the-meanest-of-them-all/ Fri, 21 Dec 2007 01:12:44 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/whos-the-meanest-of-them-all/3 Bush, Inc.

And, of course, by "Bush," you mean the sprawling anti-life-on-Earth interests of which he is the mere dusting of snow on the very tip of the little bit that juts dramatically from the toppiest-top of the iceberg that is really a vast frozen chunk of crude oil, correct?

Eat what you grow, grow what you eat

]]> Bush, Inc.

And, of course, by "Bush," you mean the sprawling anti-life-on-Earth interests of which he is the mere dusting of snow on the very tip of the little bit that juts dramatically from the toppiest-top of the iceberg that is really a vast frozen chunk of crude oil, correct?

Eat what you grow, grow what you eat

]]> Comment #4 by Solar John http://www.grist.org/article/whos-the-meanest-of-them-all/ Fri, 21 Dec 2007 02:00:10 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/whos-the-meanest-of-them-all/4 Biggest Eco-Villains

Right behind George Bush, Don Blankenship, CEO of Massey Energy gets my vote.  

Solar John

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Right behind George Bush, Don Blankenship, CEO of Massey Energy gets my vote.  

Solar John

]]> Comment #5 by Delay And Deny http://www.grist.org/article/whos-the-meanest-of-them-all/ Fri, 21 Dec 2007 02:21:32 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/whos-the-meanest-of-them-all/5 The Bi-Cameral Mind


Why all the suppression of Bush's innovative alternative energy programs, and the support of nanotechnology, nuclear fusion (ITER), materials research and fuel cells -- the technologies that might actually make it possible to move into the 21st Century.

Sometimes I wonder if you actively ignore these facts for political reasons, or that the average "Green" is a liberal arts major with no capacity to understand science or engineering.

My Log


]]> The Bi-Cameral Mind


Why all the suppression of Bush's innovative alternative energy programs, and the support of nanotechnology, nuclear fusion (ITER), materials research and fuel cells -- the technologies that might actually make it possible to move into the 21st Century.

Sometimes I wonder if you actively ignore these facts for political reasons, or that the average "Green" is a liberal arts major with no capacity to understand science or engineering.

My Log


]]> Comment #6 by caniscandida http://www.grist.org/article/whos-the-meanest-of-them-all/ Fri, 21 Dec 2007 03:04:43 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/whos-the-meanest-of-them-all/6 red in tooth and claw

George W. Bush deserves to win, for having a supremely prominent position of influence and authority, which then he has abused.

But Julie MacDonald also deserves special high disapprobation, because insensitivity to the welfare of vulnerable and helpless wildlife is a peculiarly ugly form of depravity.

She can be understood to be the symbol and representative of a whole army of people who either have no concern for what happens to wildlife, or actively wish to see wild animals destroyed.  E.g.:

those who seek to build a wall along the southwestern border of the US, thereby impeding the free passage of such wild animals as jaguars and ocelots;

fish farmers whose operations endanger wild animals in neighboring ecosystems;

all the wolf-haters, the savage leader of whom is Governor Butch Otter of Idaho, but including as well many other people in Idaho and elsewhere in the northern Rockies and the vicinity of Yellowstone NP, the people who are violently resisting the re-introduction of the Mexican wolf in the Gila Mountains of Arizona and New Mexico, and the people in Alaska who support the hunting of wolves from aircraft (the position and actions of Governor Sarah Palin in that regard are unknown to me);

all trophy hunters, especially those in search of specimens of rare or endangered animals;

the members of the Canadian government who promote the annual slaughter of juvenile harp seals, and who seek to hide it from observers;

all fishers who go after endangered fish, especially those who catch more than they are allowed by national or international quotas;

all fishers who knowingly use methods that endanger the lives of many animals other than the ones that are meant to be caught;

promoters, sponsors and organizers of the trade in ivory, hides, and other body parts collected from rare or endangered animals;

Japanese slaughterers of dolphins;

whalers, Japanese and other.

This is not an exhaustive list.

Chickens are our cousins! So are fish! So are other sentient animals! Let us learn to be kind.

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George W. Bush deserves to win, for having a supremely prominent position of influence and authority, which then he has abused.

But Julie MacDonald also deserves special high disapprobation, because insensitivity to the welfare of vulnerable and helpless wildlife is a peculiarly ugly form of depravity.

She can be understood to be the symbol and representative of a whole army of people who either have no concern for what happens to wildlife, or actively wish to see wild animals destroyed.  E.g.:

those who seek to build a wall along the southwestern border of the US, thereby impeding the free passage of such wild animals as jaguars and ocelots;

fish farmers whose operations endanger wild animals in neighboring ecosystems;

all the wolf-haters, the savage leader of whom is Governor Butch Otter of Idaho, but including as well many other people in Idaho and elsewhere in the northern Rockies and the vicinity of Yellowstone NP, the people who are violently resisting the re-introduction of the Mexican wolf in the Gila Mountains of Arizona and New Mexico, and the people in Alaska who support the hunting of wolves from aircraft (the position and actions of Governor Sarah Palin in that regard are unknown to me);

all trophy hunters, especially those in search of specimens of rare or endangered animals;

the members of the Canadian government who promote the annual slaughter of juvenile harp seals, and who seek to hide it from observers;

all fishers who go after endangered fish, especially those who catch more than they are allowed by national or international quotas;

all fishers who knowingly use methods that endanger the lives of many animals other than the ones that are meant to be caught;

promoters, sponsors and organizers of the trade in ivory, hides, and other body parts collected from rare or endangered animals;

Japanese slaughterers of dolphins;

whalers, Japanese and other.

This is not an exhaustive list.

Chickens are our cousins! So are fish! So are other sentient animals! Let us learn to be kind.

]]> Comment #7 by amazingdrx http://www.grist.org/article/whos-the-meanest-of-them-all/ Fri, 21 Dec 2007 03:21:30 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/whos-the-meanest-of-them-all/7 Not even close

Cheney.  Worse than ras-Putin.

If/when he dies he should be shot into the Sun.  Only nuclear fusion can destroy that much evil.  

http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog

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Cheney.  Worse than ras-Putin.

If/when he dies he should be shot into the Sun.  Only nuclear fusion can destroy that much evil.  

http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog

]]> Comment #8 by BILL HANNAHAN http://www.grist.org/article/whos-the-meanest-of-them-all/ Fri, 21 Dec 2007 05:24:20 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/whos-the-meanest-of-them-all/8 Ralph Nader gets my vote.

By scaring Americans off of nuclear power, coal surged ahead, killing 20,000+ Americans each year, more than Osama has killed in his whole life.

http://www.cleartheair.org/dirtypower/docs/dirtyAir.pdf

]]> Ralph Nader gets my vote.

By scaring Americans off of nuclear power, coal surged ahead, killing 20,000+ Americans each year, more than Osama has killed in his whole life.

http://www.cleartheair.org/dirtypower/docs/dirtyAir.pdf

]]> Comment #9 by gmb1777 http://www.grist.org/article/whos-the-meanest-of-them-all/ Fri, 21 Dec 2007 06:06:55 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/whos-the-meanest-of-them-all/9 James Inhoffe

How did fillibuster-threatenting, Live Earth moving, climate denyingJames Inhoffe not make this list? He gets my vote.

]]> James Inhoffe

How did fillibuster-threatenting, Live Earth moving, climate denyingJames Inhoffe not make this list? He gets my vote.

]]> Comment #10 by Sam Wells http://www.grist.org/article/whos-the-meanest-of-them-all/ Fri, 21 Dec 2007 07:57:13 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/whos-the-meanest-of-them-all/10 Can you vote against BuchCo?

The entire group-think of the Republican right really deserves the award IMHO. This applies to most all politically appointed heads of departments as well as the official US diplomats to the Bali Conference.  

Bush really doesn't deserve the medal. He is too stupid, inane and asinine, and has plenty of court jesters and fools that do the dirty work for him.

To some moderate, northern and western Republicans I must apologize in such a broad-brush condemnation. I feel your pain, brothers and sisters, I feel your pain.

Onward through the fog

]]> Can you vote against BuchCo?

The entire group-think of the Republican right really deserves the award IMHO. This applies to most all politically appointed heads of departments as well as the official US diplomats to the Bali Conference.  

Bush really doesn't deserve the medal. He is too stupid, inane and asinine, and has plenty of court jesters and fools that do the dirty work for him.

To some moderate, northern and western Republicans I must apologize in such a broad-brush condemnation. I feel your pain, brothers and sisters, I feel your pain.

Onward through the fog

]]> Comment #11 by KevinMichael http://www.grist.org/article/whos-the-meanest-of-them-all/ Sat, 22 Dec 2007 02:19:11 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/whos-the-meanest-of-them-all/11 Look in the Mirror

Typical attitudes on this forum. Blame Bush, blah, blah, no blood for oil, blah... George Bush just signed increased CAFE standards for the first time in some 30 years. Look in the mirror for the worst ecological offenders. George Bush does not drive your car, eat your beef/pork/chicken, keep the thermostat in your house pegged at 70F in the winter   and summer. Nobody intentionally scars the environment. However, people like George Bush do take the initiative to provide the energy and services the free market demands. Anyone writing on this forum is modern enough to be using a computer and validating the horrific degradation of our earth through mining, petrochemicals (i.e. plastic), and  coal fired power to allow that little screen to glow.

My recommendations to everyone on the forum.
Make a good faith effort to conserve.
Find a hobby not linked to environmental concerns.
Enjoy your life and stop blaming others for the problems you directly precipitate

Stay positive, love your life.




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Typical attitudes on this forum. Blame Bush, blah, blah, no blood for oil, blah... George Bush just signed increased CAFE standards for the first time in some 30 years. Look in the mirror for the worst ecological offenders. George Bush does not drive your car, eat your beef/pork/chicken, keep the thermostat in your house pegged at 70F in the winter   and summer. Nobody intentionally scars the environment. However, people like George Bush do take the initiative to provide the energy and services the free market demands. Anyone writing on this forum is modern enough to be using a computer and validating the horrific degradation of our earth through mining, petrochemicals (i.e. plastic), and  coal fired power to allow that little screen to glow.

My recommendations to everyone on the forum.
Make a good faith effort to conserve.
Find a hobby not linked to environmental concerns.
Enjoy your life and stop blaming others for the problems you directly precipitate

Stay positive, love your life.




]]> Comment #12 by amazingdrx http://www.grist.org/article/whos-the-meanest-of-them-all/ Sat, 22 Dec 2007 03:50:34 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/whos-the-meanest-of-them-all/12 Recommendations

Yep Kevin, bush even has a solar panel, heat pump, and wind system at his crawdad "ranch".  He's a wonderful environmental president.

But that Al Gore, uses way too much power.  Right?

That means Gore's POV on GHG climate change must be all wrong.  Are you listening to Limbaugh right now?  I bet if you keep this up, Hillary and Bill won't get back to the Whitehouse.  Good work.

Just remember how important this is.  If Hillary wins, Janet Reno will be coming to get your guns!  The Bush administration cancelled your constiotutional rights.  All Reno will have to do is have you declared a terrorist.  Yikes.  Off to gitmo for water boarding.

http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog

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Yep Kevin, bush even has a solar panel, heat pump, and wind system at his crawdad "ranch".  He's a wonderful environmental president.

But that Al Gore, uses way too much power.  Right?

That means Gore's POV on GHG climate change must be all wrong.  Are you listening to Limbaugh right now?  I bet if you keep this up, Hillary and Bill won't get back to the Whitehouse.  Good work.

Just remember how important this is.  If Hillary wins, Janet Reno will be coming to get your guns!  The Bush administration cancelled your constiotutional rights.  All Reno will have to do is have you declared a terrorist.  Yikes.  Off to gitmo for water boarding.

http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog

]]> Comment #13 by RedHawk http://www.grist.org/article/whos-the-meanest-of-them-all/ Sun, 23 Dec 2007 01:26:39 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/whos-the-meanest-of-them-all/13 Eco-Villans

You've covered the list very nicely! But Bush is still at the top.

I've been saying something for 7 years about him: the way the whole country works starts at the top. Think the whole administration, the Congress itself, the DOJ, EPA, DOE, the Pentagon; then police depts., the judiciary (though thankfully, there are some judges on our side!), the Federal Reserve and whole banking system, ENRON, oil companies, other corporations, even small businesses; the list is not exhaustive, as you say. The philosophy has been: Nothing is wrong except to get caught. And even then, you will not be accountable...so, who cares, have at it, destroy the economy, the Republic...even the planet! And you can laugh all the way to the bank.

A country is only as good as its leadership...and IMVHO, we've been sadly lacking a moral compass for a very long time, and it doesn't look like we'll be finding one too soon.

The Democratic candidates, while better than what we have, are STILL the lesser of 2 evils; which leaves us with evil, anyway.

Sen. Chris Dodd is the ONLY presidential candidate unequivocally stating the FIRST thing he would do after being sworn in as President, is to restore the Constitution (which MUST be done before anything else can be accomplished). He seems to be the only candidate who realizes how serious the Constitutional crisis we are now experiencing is.

Why aren't Clinton, Obama and Edwards, or even Richardson & Kucinich saying this??? (Well, maybe Rep. Kucinich has said something to that effect.) Could somebody enlighten me on this???

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You've covered the list very nicely! But Bush is still at the top.

I've been saying something for 7 years about him: the way the whole country works starts at the top. Think the whole administration, the Congress itself, the DOJ, EPA, DOE, the Pentagon; then police depts., the judiciary (though thankfully, there are some judges on our side!), the Federal Reserve and whole banking system, ENRON, oil companies, other corporations, even small businesses; the list is not exhaustive, as you say. The philosophy has been: Nothing is wrong except to get caught. And even then, you will not be accountable...so, who cares, have at it, destroy the economy, the Republic...even the planet! And you can laugh all the way to the bank.

A country is only as good as its leadership...and IMVHO, we've been sadly lacking a moral compass for a very long time, and it doesn't look like we'll be finding one too soon.

The Democratic candidates, while better than what we have, are STILL the lesser of 2 evils; which leaves us with evil, anyway.

Sen. Chris Dodd is the ONLY presidential candidate unequivocally stating the FIRST thing he would do after being sworn in as President, is to restore the Constitution (which MUST be done before anything else can be accomplished). He seems to be the only candidate who realizes how serious the Constitutional crisis we are now experiencing is.

Why aren't Clinton, Obama and Edwards, or even Richardson & Kucinich saying this??? (Well, maybe Rep. Kucinich has said something to that effect.) Could somebody enlighten me on this???

]]> Comment #14 by amazingdrx http://www.grist.org/article/whos-the-meanest-of-them-all/ Sun, 23 Dec 2007 02:22:52 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/whos-the-meanest-of-them-all/14 Murdoch

Murdoch is Sauron, guys like Cheney are mere ring wraiths.

Somedbody ought to hire an Ent hit squad to target Sauron (Murdoch) on his next Aspen skiing junket.  Hehey.

http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog

]]> Murdoch

Murdoch is Sauron, guys like Cheney are mere ring wraiths.

Somedbody ought to hire an Ent hit squad to target Sauron (Murdoch) on his next Aspen skiing junket.  Hehey.

http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog

]]> Comment #15 by KevinMichael http://www.grist.org/article/whos-the-meanest-of-them-all/ Sun, 23 Dec 2007 09:45:05 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/whos-the-meanest-of-them-all/15 Amazingdrx

Amazing-

I think Al Gore and his crusade to educate and mitigate the damages of global warming are noble and well intentioned. Additionally, I was not defending George Bush and his environmental record or lack thereof.

More to the point, I was attacking the premise of this very discussion. The collective habits of the 1 or 2 billion people not living in caves are the biggest concern for our planet.

Just because I don't believe its right to take pot shots at a single person for the actions/consumption of a few billion people, well I guess I must be Bush defending, Limbaugh listening zealot. You are wrong, keep blaming everyone but yourself it makes you feel better.

Lastly, Amazing, if you are reading this you just validated my point. Honestly think about the embodied energy of all YOUR daily activities.

Stay positive, love your life.

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Amazing-

I think Al Gore and his crusade to educate and mitigate the damages of global warming are noble and well intentioned. Additionally, I was not defending George Bush and his environmental record or lack thereof.

More to the point, I was attacking the premise of this very discussion. The collective habits of the 1 or 2 billion people not living in caves are the biggest concern for our planet.

Just because I don't believe its right to take pot shots at a single person for the actions/consumption of a few billion people, well I guess I must be Bush defending, Limbaugh listening zealot. You are wrong, keep blaming everyone but yourself it makes you feel better.

Lastly, Amazing, if you are reading this you just validated my point. Honestly think about the embodied energy of all YOUR daily activities.

Stay positive, love your life.

]]> Comment #16 by caniscandida http://www.grist.org/article/whos-the-meanest-of-them-all/ Sun, 23 Dec 2007 11:01:02 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/whos-the-meanest-of-them-all/16 enlisting the Ents

Nice suggestion, Amazing: a good story awaits being written, about a small bunch of Ents in the Colorado Rockies.

And yes, while we are in the season to laud Kevin Rudd as an eco-hero, it is good to remember that there are other Australisns too, of a very different sort.

Chickens are our cousins! So are fish! So are other sentient animals! Let us learn to be kind.

]]> enlisting the Ents

Nice suggestion, Amazing: a good story awaits being written, about a small bunch of Ents in the Colorado Rockies.

And yes, while we are in the season to laud Kevin Rudd as an eco-hero, it is good to remember that there are other Australisns too, of a very different sort.

Chickens are our cousins! So are fish! So are other sentient animals! Let us learn to be kind.

]]> Comment #17 by s5 http://www.grist.org/article/whos-the-meanest-of-them-all/ Sun, 23 Dec 2007 14:09:03 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/whos-the-meanest-of-them-all/17 Way to miss the point

KevinMichael, you're dead wrong, and I'm going to have to assume you're trolling.

You see, there's this little thing called "policy" that decides what choices are even available in the first place to the 1-2 billion people who you think should look in the mirror.

And guess who decides what that policy is? That's right, our elected officials in government, like George W. Bush. Elected officials who make bad policy absolutely deserve to be blamed, for the simple reason that it's their fault.

Blame everyone else all you want, but right now the choices for most people in America are either (1) drive to work and heat their homes or (2) lose their jobs and freeze to death in the dark.

And that's why we have government. To recognize problems and provide a better set of choices. Something which George W. Bush has utterly failed at doing. Hence, he gets the blame. He deserves it. When you suck at your job, people tend to blame you for stuff that goes wrong on your watch.

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KevinMichael, you're dead wrong, and I'm going to have to assume you're trolling.

You see, there's this little thing called "policy" that decides what choices are even available in the first place to the 1-2 billion people who you think should look in the mirror.

And guess who decides what that policy is? That's right, our elected officials in government, like George W. Bush. Elected officials who make bad policy absolutely deserve to be blamed, for the simple reason that it's their fault.

Blame everyone else all you want, but right now the choices for most people in America are either (1) drive to work and heat their homes or (2) lose their jobs and freeze to death in the dark.

And that's why we have government. To recognize problems and provide a better set of choices. Something which George W. Bush has utterly failed at doing. Hence, he gets the blame. He deserves it. When you suck at your job, people tend to blame you for stuff that goes wrong on your watch.

]]> Comment #18 by KevinMichael http://www.grist.org/article/whos-the-meanest-of-them-all/ Mon, 24 Dec 2007 10:51:11 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/whos-the-meanest-of-them-all/18 How am I missing the point?

S5-

Please elaborate on the best way to correct the current situation we are in using "policy". How is the ideal presidential candidate lauded by everyone on this forum going to provide you with a warm home and transportation to work without destroying the environment?

Also...what do you mean by trolling? Approaching someone with a different point of view?

Stay positive, love your life.

]]> How am I missing the point?

S5-

Please elaborate on the best way to correct the current situation we are in using "policy". How is the ideal presidential candidate lauded by everyone on this forum going to provide you with a warm home and transportation to work without destroying the environment?

Also...what do you mean by trolling? Approaching someone with a different point of view?

Stay positive, love your life.

]]> Comment #19 by amazingdrx http://www.grist.org/article/whos-the-meanest-of-them-all/ Tue, 25 Dec 2007 01:08:42 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/whos-the-meanest-of-them-all/19 Answer

If you really want one.

Energy and farm policy to stop GHG climate disaster and revive our economy.

Shift subsidies now going to the energy status quo and oil war, over to supporting a distributed renewable energy generation and storage smart internet enabled grid, plugin hybrid vehicles, high speed electric commuter rail, and conservation.  

Create a mass market by converting government energy use and vehicles to this mode.  Then target subsidies to help the rest of the economy shift over.

I bet you didn't want that answer, did you?  Hehey.

http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog

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If you really want one.

Energy and farm policy to stop GHG climate disaster and revive our economy.

Shift subsidies now going to the energy status quo and oil war, over to supporting a distributed renewable energy generation and storage smart internet enabled grid, plugin hybrid vehicles, high speed electric commuter rail, and conservation.  

Create a mass market by converting government energy use and vehicles to this mode.  Then target subsidies to help the rest of the economy shift over.

I bet you didn't want that answer, did you?  Hehey.

http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog

]]> Comment #20 by randino http://www.grist.org/article/whos-the-meanest-of-them-all/ Sun, 30 Dec 2007 01:40:10 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/whos-the-meanest-of-them-all/20 making the easy choice.

The number of voters going for W on this poll shows a certain laziness infecting the grist family. He is our favorite bogeyman. Yawn. How boring.

We can do better than this. I know we can.

Randy Cunningham

Randy Cunningham

]]> making the easy choice.

The number of voters going for W on this poll shows a certain laziness infecting the grist family. He is our favorite bogeyman. Yawn. How boring.

We can do better than this. I know we can.

Randy Cunningham

Randy Cunningham

]]> Comment #21 by chargerplates http://www.grist.org/article/whos-the-meanest-of-them-all/ Wed, 27 Feb 2008 15:59:32 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/whos-the-meanest-of-them-all/21 I agree with some people

If you really want one.
Energy and farm policy to stop GHG climate disaster and revive our economy.

Shift subsidies now going to the energy status quo and oil war, over to supporting a distributed renewable energy generation and storage smart internet enabled grid, plugin hybrid vehicles, high speed electric commuter rail, and conservation.  

Create a mass market by converting government energy use and vehicles to this mode.  Then target subsidies to help the rest of the economy shift over.charger plates

I bet you didn't want that answer, did you?  Hehey.

Sen. Chris Dodd is the ONLY presidential candidate unequivocally stating the FIRST thing he would do after being sworn in as President, is to restore the Constitution (which MUST be done before anything else can be accomplished). He seems to be the only candidate who realizes how serious the charger platesConstitutional crisis we are now experiencing is.


]]> I agree with some people

If you really want one.
Energy and farm policy to stop GHG climate disaster and revive our economy.

Shift subsidies now going to the energy status quo and oil war, over to supporting a distributed renewable energy generation and storage smart internet enabled grid, plugin hybrid vehicles, high speed electric commuter rail, and conservation.  

Create a mass market by converting government energy use and vehicles to this mode.  Then target subsidies to help the rest of the economy shift over.charger plates

I bet you didn't want that answer, did you?  Hehey.

Sen. Chris Dodd is the ONLY presidential candidate unequivocally stating the FIRST thing he would do after being sworn in as President, is to restore the Constitution (which MUST be done before anything else can be accomplished). He seems to be the only candidate who realizes how serious the charger platesConstitutional crisis we are now experiencing is.


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