<![CDATA[Grist - Comment Feed for Mainstream journalism on green issues tends to bash do-gooders and give the PTB a pass]]> Grist Comment Feed en Comment #1 by JMG http://www.grist.org/article/who-exposes-the-exposer/ Mon, 10 Mar 2008 04:17:52 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/who-exposes-the-exposer/1 You're not suggesting

an "unhealthy" focus on our corporate "partners" are you?

Save the world: Reduce greenhouse gas emissions 5% annually.

]]> You're not suggesting

an "unhealthy" focus on our corporate "partners" are you?

Save the world: Reduce greenhouse gas emissions 5% annually.

]]> Comment #2 by gargy http://www.grist.org/article/who-exposes-the-exposer/ Mon, 10 Mar 2008 06:09:10 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/who-exposes-the-exposer/2 Can we be vindictive?

I want to see the humongous corporations pay and pay and pay until it hurts.  I want you to hold their feet to the fire and if you can't, I want you to figure out who can.  How WILL we get a new message out to Mr and Mrs average American if the msm is pushing the wrong story???  Indeed.

]]> Can we be vindictive?

I want to see the humongous corporations pay and pay and pay until it hurts.  I want you to hold their feet to the fire and if you can't, I want you to figure out who can.  How WILL we get a new message out to Mr and Mrs average American if the msm is pushing the wrong story???  Indeed.

]]> Comment #3 by Angry African http://www.grist.org/article/who-exposes-the-exposer/ Mon, 10 Mar 2008 06:19:01 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/who-exposes-the-exposer/3 Expose everyone?

I agree - there are bigger fish to fry than going after those who are trying to do the "right thing". But ther eis a problem with this as well. What we think is good today might not turn out to be that good tomorrow. Biofuels anyone? I do think that it is because we always oversell everything each time we think we are closer to giving people what they want. Take for instance the idea that something is eco-friendly. Is it really? Or is it eco-friendlier? For example - your example - local food. It is better than something that came from 1000s of miles away. But it still has an impact. Just less of one. And that impact is environmental. The impact on poverty might actually be worse on the other side than on the locals if you remove the African/South American/Asian out of the equation. It comes down to what is eco-friendly? Is there something like eco-friendly? Or is it just eco-friendlier. More on my blog at http://www.angryafrican.net

]]> Expose everyone?

I agree - there are bigger fish to fry than going after those who are trying to do the "right thing". But ther eis a problem with this as well. What we think is good today might not turn out to be that good tomorrow. Biofuels anyone? I do think that it is because we always oversell everything each time we think we are closer to giving people what they want. Take for instance the idea that something is eco-friendly. Is it really? Or is it eco-friendlier? For example - your example - local food. It is better than something that came from 1000s of miles away. But it still has an impact. Just less of one. And that impact is environmental. The impact on poverty might actually be worse on the other side than on the locals if you remove the African/South American/Asian out of the equation. It comes down to what is eco-friendly? Is there something like eco-friendly? Or is it just eco-friendlier. More on my blog at http://www.angryafrican.net

]]> Comment #4 by SMLowry http://www.grist.org/article/who-exposes-the-exposer/ Mon, 10 Mar 2008 09:49:10 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/who-exposes-the-exposer/4 Re: CFLs

Actually, David, there are people who don't know what they are. A couple of days ago I sent in my regular column for the local paper, The (Conway,NH) Daily Sun. The title was "More than CFLs". And the next day I got an e-mail from Terry, the editor, asking me what the CFLs in my title were.

And, yeah, given the seriousness of the situation the media coverage is horrible. No connections are made, it's one sound bite after another and then on to the next story.

]]> Re: CFLs

Actually, David, there are people who don't know what they are. A couple of days ago I sent in my regular column for the local paper, The (Conway,NH) Daily Sun. The title was "More than CFLs". And the next day I got an e-mail from Terry, the editor, asking me what the CFLs in my title were.

And, yeah, given the seriousness of the situation the media coverage is horrible. No connections are made, it's one sound bite after another and then on to the next story.

]]> Comment #5 by Biodiversivist http://www.grist.org/article/who-exposes-the-exposer/ Mon, 10 Mar 2008 14:32:51 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/who-exposes-the-exposer/5 Writing for a mainstream media outlet

for a living is a waste of life.

In the end, it all comes down to biodiversity. Poison Darts--Protecting the biodiversity of our world

]]> Writing for a mainstream media outlet

for a living is a waste of life.

In the end, it all comes down to biodiversity. Poison Darts--Protecting the biodiversity of our world

]]> Comment #6 by mwildfire http://www.grist.org/article/who-exposes-the-exposer/ Mon, 17 Mar 2008 23:00:12 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/who-exposes-the-exposer/6 the heart of the problem

is the media. That is, corporate control of the mainstream media. Heart of which problem? Essentially ALL the serious problems facing the human race: not only the environmental problems we discuss here but also the fact that the US is no longer a democracy, is engaged in an outrageously unjust war on innocent Iraqis and perhaps about to engage in another, suicidal war on Iran; that US citizens are now generally referred to as "consumers" and getting steadily more ignorant of world or national affairs; the fact that the US, and its citizens, are deeply in debt and going deeper daily...
Why can't we solve any of these problems? because we can't even talk about them, as a nation, as long as this HOSTILE ENTITY, the corporation, has control of the nervous system of our body politic, our means of communication, which is the airwaves and pages of newspapers and magazines. We can't point the finger at actual culprits because they are ADVERTISERS. Universities each have a protected corporation or industry that the professors are not allowed to criticise--whichever one is the key local polluter. They give a lot of money to the local college to insure silence.
At a time when human survival is at stake, we are unable to make rational decisions because we have handed over control to the mechanical "persons" we created. Corporations can't think except via the brains of their managers, can't feel at all, and will not care if they cease to exist when the human race does--because they were never alive and able to care at all. People make the mistake of equating them with human persons, eg referring to "good" and "bad" corporations--but they are in no way similar to human beings. They are machines, designed to make profits, and they will keep on doing that until the planet and all its creatures die if we don't assert control over them. Some of these corporations are media corporations, and they are the means of blocking us from discussing and adopting effective solutions.

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is the media. That is, corporate control of the mainstream media. Heart of which problem? Essentially ALL the serious problems facing the human race: not only the environmental problems we discuss here but also the fact that the US is no longer a democracy, is engaged in an outrageously unjust war on innocent Iraqis and perhaps about to engage in another, suicidal war on Iran; that US citizens are now generally referred to as "consumers" and getting steadily more ignorant of world or national affairs; the fact that the US, and its citizens, are deeply in debt and going deeper daily...
Why can't we solve any of these problems? because we can't even talk about them, as a nation, as long as this HOSTILE ENTITY, the corporation, has control of the nervous system of our body politic, our means of communication, which is the airwaves and pages of newspapers and magazines. We can't point the finger at actual culprits because they are ADVERTISERS. Universities each have a protected corporation or industry that the professors are not allowed to criticise--whichever one is the key local polluter. They give a lot of money to the local college to insure silence.
At a time when human survival is at stake, we are unable to make rational decisions because we have handed over control to the mechanical "persons" we created. Corporations can't think except via the brains of their managers, can't feel at all, and will not care if they cease to exist when the human race does--because they were never alive and able to care at all. People make the mistake of equating them with human persons, eg referring to "good" and "bad" corporations--but they are in no way similar to human beings. They are machines, designed to make profits, and they will keep on doing that until the planet and all its creatures die if we don't assert control over them. Some of these corporations are media corporations, and they are the means of blocking us from discussing and adopting effective solutions.

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