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            <title>Comment #1 by Pangolin</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 12:43:07 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>The bicycle path<p>That's where I see the local college kids expressing energy on climate change. I don't see the suit wearing hordes of resume polishers have had any effect at all so far. <p>
Until the hall-hiking crowds at climate conferences start talking to people who build and farm on a retail level this trains going nowhere. People need to know that there will be a place for them in the new economy. A place maybe different, but as good as what they can get now.<p>
They rest of us surely aren't going to get jobs as Senate staffers and corporate climate change consultants. How about helping us out?<p>
Quit with the conferences already. It's the same group of insiders playing echo chamber in new places. Build some demo projects in whatever home town you came from and haul the public through them.<br>


<p><a href="http://putcarbonback.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">Put  the Carbon Back</a></p></br></p></p></p></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>The bicycle path<p>That's where I see the local college kids expressing energy on climate change. I don't see the suit wearing hordes of resume polishers have had any effect at all so far. <p>
Until the hall-hiking crowds at climate conferences start talking to people who build and farm on a retail level this trains going nowhere. People need to know that there will be a place for them in the new economy. A place maybe different, but as good as what they can get now.<p>
They rest of us surely aren't going to get jobs as Senate staffers and corporate climate change consultants. How about helping us out?<p>
Quit with the conferences already. It's the same group of insiders playing echo chamber in new places. Build some demo projects in whatever home town you came from and haul the public through them.<br>


<p><a href="http://putcarbonback.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">Put  the Carbon Back</a></p></br></p></p></p></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #2 by stevenearlsalmony</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 22:20:15 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Assistance , if you please.....<p>On the need for scientific education regarding the human overpopulation of Earth in these early years of Century XXI...........<p>
Dear Friends, <p>
I want to at least try to gain your quick help. I'm not sure if you've heard, but yesterday the "AWAREness Campaign on the Human Population" submitted an idea for how we think the Obama Administration could change America. It's called "Ideas for Change in America." <p>
I've submitted an idea and wanted to see if you could vote for it. The title is: Accepting human limits and Earth's limitations. You can read and vote for the idea by clicking on the following link: <p>
<a href="http://www.change.org/ideas/view/accepting_human_limits_and_earths_limitations" rel="nofollow">http://www.change.org/ideas/view/accepting_human_limits_a ... <p>
The top 10 ideas are going to be presented to the Obama Administration on Inauguration Day and will be supported by a national lobbying campaign run by Change.org, MySpace, and more than a dozen leading nonprofits after the Inauguration. So each idea has a real chance at becoming policy. <p>
Thanks.<p>
Sincerely yours,<p>
Steve <p>
Steven Earl Salmony<br>
AWAREness Campaign on the Human Population, <br>
established 2001<br>
<a href="http://sustainabilityscience.org/content.html?contentid=1176" rel="nofollow">http://sustainabilityscience.org/content.html?contentid=1 ... <br>
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				<p><strong>Assistance , if you please.....<p>On the need for scientific education regarding the human overpopulation of Earth in these early years of Century XXI...........<p>
Dear Friends, <p>
I want to at least try to gain your quick help. I'm not sure if you've heard, but yesterday the "AWAREness Campaign on the Human Population" submitted an idea for how we think the Obama Administration could change America. It's called "Ideas for Change in America." <p>
I've submitted an idea and wanted to see if you could vote for it. The title is: Accepting human limits and Earth's limitations. You can read and vote for the idea by clicking on the following link: <p>
<a href="http://www.change.org/ideas/view/accepting_human_limits_and_earths_limitations" rel="nofollow">http://www.change.org/ideas/view/accepting_human_limits_a ... <p>
The top 10 ideas are going to be presented to the Obama Administration on Inauguration Day and will be supported by a national lobbying campaign run by Change.org, MySpace, and more than a dozen leading nonprofits after the Inauguration. So each idea has a real chance at becoming policy. <p>
Thanks.<p>
Sincerely yours,<p>
Steve <p>
Steven Earl Salmony<br>
AWAREness Campaign on the Human Population, <br>
established 2001<br>
<a href="http://sustainabilityscience.org/content.html?contentid=1176" rel="nofollow">http://sustainabilityscience.org/content.html?contentid=1 ... <br>
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            <title>Comment #3 by georgia</title>
			<link>http://www.grist.org/article/which-path-will-the-youth-climate-movement-take/</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 04:38:46 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Show me the list!</strong></p><p>If we're going to relegate the country to a permanent recession because of a debunked theory of AGW, we at least deserve to be able to know which scientists that would be willing to put their names and reputations on the line and state unequivocolly that anthropogenic CO2 drives climate! &nbsp;If such a list were made, I'd be stunned if such a list would garner more than 100 signatures.</p>
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				<p><strong>Show me the list!</strong></p><p>If we're going to relegate the country to a permanent recession because of a debunked theory of AGW, we at least deserve to be able to know which scientists that would be willing to put their names and reputations on the line and state unequivocolly that anthropogenic CO2 drives climate! &nbsp;If such a list were made, I'd be stunned if such a list would garner more than 100 signatures.</p>
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            <title>Comment #4 by Billhook</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 05:48:54 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Try 100,000</strong></p><p>Georgia, you would be stunned.</p><p>
Every major National Academy of Science around the world has signed up to the full AGW hypothesis, whose proof is now regarded as virtually certain.</p><p>
Moreover, there are the legions of scientists working for 187 national governments who support the consensus, meaning that those governments have on their advice unanimously adopted the IPCC reports.</p><p>
Notably those nations include Saudi Arabia, Venezuela, Nigeria, Russia, Iran, Britain, Brazil and other fossil fuel producers, with no great love for Greenpeace.</p><p>
Regards,</p><p>
Bilhook</p>
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				<p><strong>Try 100,000</strong></p><p>Georgia, you would be stunned.</p><p>
Every major National Academy of Science around the world has signed up to the full AGW hypothesis, whose proof is now regarded as virtually certain.</p><p>
Moreover, there are the legions of scientists working for 187 national governments who support the consensus, meaning that those governments have on their advice unanimously adopted the IPCC reports.</p><p>
Notably those nations include Saudi Arabia, Venezuela, Nigeria, Russia, Iran, Britain, Brazil and other fossil fuel producers, with no great love for Greenpeace.</p><p>
Regards,</p><p>
Bilhook</p>
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            <title>Comment #5 by Anna Haynes</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 12:12:06 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Suggestion - direct comments to the orig. post<p>It'd be great if, when a post like "<a href="http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2008/12/06/which-path-will-the-youth-climate-movement-take/" rel="nofollow">Which Path Will the Youth Climate Movement Take?" is reprinted here on Grist, we directed readers to go over &amp; comment at the original (which has 6 comments of its own over there right now) - I'd like to be able to read all comments for a post in 1 place, and have all commenters read mine, to maximize the synergy.<br>
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				<p><strong>Suggestion - direct comments to the orig. post<p>It'd be great if, when a post like "<a href="http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2008/12/06/which-path-will-the-youth-climate-movement-take/" rel="nofollow">Which Path Will the Youth Climate Movement Take?" is reprinted here on Grist, we directed readers to go over &amp; comment at the original (which has 6 comments of its own over there right now) - I'd like to be able to read all comments for a post in 1 place, and have all commenters read mine, to maximize the synergy.<br>
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