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            <title>Comment #1 by javaearth</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 01:09:26 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>old aged memory</strong></p><p>I thought he was the one Rep. that was going to make positive green changes! Erm,,, Maybe it is an honet mistake, but its a very grave mistake! Maybe his old aged memory is failing him! </p>
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				<p><strong>old aged memory</strong></p><p>I thought he was the one Rep. that was going to make positive green changes! Erm,,, Maybe it is an honet mistake, but its a very grave mistake! Maybe his old aged memory is failing him! </p>
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            <title>Comment #2 by Sean Casten</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 06:06:42 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>OK, but</strong></p><p>I see three plausible scenarios here:</p><p>


McCain would have voted in favor if he were there, but couldn't fit it into his campaign schedule.</p><p>
McCain supported the bill, but didn't want to make a public statement that might cost him votes against the Romney/Huckabee lunatic fringe and found it convenient to be elsewhere.</p><p>
McCain wouldn't have voted in favor if he were there and chose not to be there to avoid losing his green cred.</p><p>
McCain wouldn't have voted in favor if he were there, but couldn't be there anyway because of his campaign schedule.</p><p>


I don't claim to know which is true, but it bears at least keeping in mind that the first two are possible. &nbsp;If it's (1), shame on Harry Reid for not scheduling the vote to accomodate his schedule (such is the challenge of holding votes during the election season). &nbsp;If it's (2), shame on the lunatic-fringe. &nbsp;And if it's (3) or (4), McCain bashing is in order. &nbsp;But we ought to at least bear in mind that there are other possibilities before passing judgment.</p>
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				<p><strong>OK, but</strong></p><p>I see three plausible scenarios here:</p><p>


McCain would have voted in favor if he were there, but couldn't fit it into his campaign schedule.</p><p>
McCain supported the bill, but didn't want to make a public statement that might cost him votes against the Romney/Huckabee lunatic fringe and found it convenient to be elsewhere.</p><p>
McCain wouldn't have voted in favor if he were there and chose not to be there to avoid losing his green cred.</p><p>
McCain wouldn't have voted in favor if he were there, but couldn't be there anyway because of his campaign schedule.</p><p>


I don't claim to know which is true, but it bears at least keeping in mind that the first two are possible. &nbsp;If it's (1), shame on Harry Reid for not scheduling the vote to accomodate his schedule (such is the challenge of holding votes during the election season). &nbsp;If it's (2), shame on the lunatic-fringe. &nbsp;And if it's (3) or (4), McCain bashing is in order. &nbsp;But we ought to at least bear in mind that there are other possibilities before passing judgment.</p>
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            <title>Comment #3 by Delay And Deny</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 07:46:40 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Green Is Growing<p><br>
The Green industries don't need stimulus.<p>
Their growing by leaps and bounds.<p>
The majority of this "stimulus" bill is a lot of pork barrel funding and rewards for people making bad and dangerous and risky investments.<p>
Or, as we true Conservatives like to say: Welfare for Mortgage Bankers.<br>


<p><a href="http://jabailo.johnmccain.com/" rel="nofollow">jabailo.johnmccain.com</a></p></br></p></p></p></br></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>Green Is Growing<p><br>
The Green industries don't need stimulus.<p>
Their growing by leaps and bounds.<p>
The majority of this "stimulus" bill is a lot of pork barrel funding and rewards for people making bad and dangerous and risky investments.<p>
Or, as we true Conservatives like to say: Welfare for Mortgage Bankers.<br>


<p><a href="http://jabailo.johnmccain.com/" rel="nofollow">jabailo.johnmccain.com</a></p></br></p></p></p></br></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #4 by Tasermons Partner</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 10:00:37 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>We need stimulus...</strong></p><p>The Green industries don't need stimulus.<br>
Their growing by leaps and bounds.</p><p>
As much as I really, really, really wish that were true, it isn't. &nbsp;Do ya really think that wind power would've grown close to 50% in the last year alone without stimulus?</p><p>
Just take at look at the growth in the industry in the years when stimulus was removed. &nbsp;It wasn't very much at all.</br></p>
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				<p><strong>We need stimulus...</strong></p><p>The Green industries don't need stimulus.<br>
Their growing by leaps and bounds.</p><p>
As much as I really, really, really wish that were true, it isn't. &nbsp;Do ya really think that wind power would've grown close to 50% in the last year alone without stimulus?</p><p>
Just take at look at the growth in the industry in the years when stimulus was removed. &nbsp;It wasn't very much at all.</br></p>
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            <title>Comment #5 by GreyFlcn</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 15:21:26 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Update<p>McCain was actually in Washington.<br>
But he just <strong>couldn't be bothered.<p>
<a href="http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/07/mccain-stimulus-2/" rel="nofollow">http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/07/mccain-stimulus-2/</a></p></strong></br></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>Update<p>McCain was actually in Washington.<br>
But he just <strong>couldn't be bothered.<p>
<a href="http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/07/mccain-stimulus-2/" rel="nofollow">http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/07/mccain-stimulus-2/</a></p></strong></br></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #6 by Tasermons Partner</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 08:20:08 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Well, on the plus side...</strong></p><p>...the bill also included stimulus for coal. &nbsp;We may not get the green power, but at least we won't get the blackened power either.</p>
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				<p><strong>Well, on the plus side...</strong></p><p>...the bill also included stimulus for coal. &nbsp;We may not get the green power, but at least we won't get the blackened power either.</p>
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