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            <title>Comment #1 by Justin Pidot</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2007 04:55:29 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>legal experts discuss the cases<p>The webcast of a panel discussion about Massachusetts v. EPA and <br>
Monday's other environmental Supreme Court case, Environmental Defense v. Duke Energy can be accessed <a href="http://www.law.georgetown.edu/webcast/eventDetail.cfm?eventID=334" rel="nofollow">here.<br><br> &nbsp;The panel includes Professor Lisa Heinzerling (lead author of Massachusetts's briefs), &nbsp;Sean Donahue (attorney for Environmental Defense), and two attorneys in private practice, Peter Glaser and William Bumpers, who both represent the energy industry. &nbsp;The panel is moderated by Professor Richard Lazarus, a noted expert on the Supreme Court.</br></br></a></br></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>legal experts discuss the cases<p>The webcast of a panel discussion about Massachusetts v. EPA and <br>
Monday's other environmental Supreme Court case, Environmental Defense v. Duke Energy can be accessed <a href="http://www.law.georgetown.edu/webcast/eventDetail.cfm?eventID=334" rel="nofollow">here.<br><br> &nbsp;The panel includes Professor Lisa Heinzerling (lead author of Massachusetts's briefs), &nbsp;Sean Donahue (attorney for Environmental Defense), and two attorneys in private practice, Peter Glaser and William Bumpers, who both represent the energy industry. &nbsp;The panel is moderated by Professor Richard Lazarus, a noted expert on the Supreme Court.</br></br></a></br></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #2 by step back</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2007 07:36:42 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>You're bananas<p>Both sides think the other side has gone "<a href="http://lemmonledge.blogspot.com/2007/04/as-if-they-were-bananas.html" rel="nofollow">bananas".</a></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>You're bananas<p>Both sides think the other side has gone "<a href="http://lemmonledge.blogspot.com/2007/04/as-if-they-were-bananas.html" rel="nofollow">bananas".</a></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #3 by caniscandida</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2007 08:52:32 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>standing</strong></p><p>Thank you, Justin Pidot, for this interesting summary.</p><p>
I agree with your reading of the majority opinion regarding standing, generally. &nbsp;But I do not altogether follow how the petitioner's formal status affects things.</p><p>
Sure, the Commonwealth of Massachusetts is a sovereign state, and I agree that acknowledging that it has standing is not a hard call.</p><p>
But what about SMLowry in northern New England, who has pointed out how the culture of maple-sugaring will be extinct in fifteen or twenty years, on account of global warming? &nbsp;Were she to sue the EPA, would she, as an individual, have standing? &nbsp;What if she came with an ad hoc group of interested citizens of VT, NH and ME? &nbsp;Is the number of citizens relevant, or not?</p><p>
A similar example would be a coalition of home-owners on Cape Cod, which the climatologists and geologists do not expect to hold up against the rise of sea levels and the increasing intensity of storms. &nbsp;Those home-owners are a discreet group, with an easily recognizable common interest. &nbsp;They are already suffering, from not being able to get decent home insurance. &nbsp;Would their ad hoc coalition have standing? &nbsp;Or is their only hope to go through the Commonwealth of Massachusetts?</p><p>
And how about extra-nationals? &nbsp;Would the Province of Quebec, also famous for its sugar maples, have standing? &nbsp;Would the Canadian provinces and territories with polar bears have standing?</p><p>
In the latter cases -- and other, much more distant countries, such as the island countries of the Pacific, might be prospective petitioners too -- , one can foresee problems. &nbsp;But I would hope that a decision against hearing all such suits should not restrict the standing of US citizens at least.

<p>Chickens are our cousins!
So are other sensitive animals!
Enough is enough!
No more factory farms!</p></p>
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				<p><strong>standing</strong></p><p>Thank you, Justin Pidot, for this interesting summary.</p><p>
I agree with your reading of the majority opinion regarding standing, generally. &nbsp;But I do not altogether follow how the petitioner's formal status affects things.</p><p>
Sure, the Commonwealth of Massachusetts is a sovereign state, and I agree that acknowledging that it has standing is not a hard call.</p><p>
But what about SMLowry in northern New England, who has pointed out how the culture of maple-sugaring will be extinct in fifteen or twenty years, on account of global warming? &nbsp;Were she to sue the EPA, would she, as an individual, have standing? &nbsp;What if she came with an ad hoc group of interested citizens of VT, NH and ME? &nbsp;Is the number of citizens relevant, or not?</p><p>
A similar example would be a coalition of home-owners on Cape Cod, which the climatologists and geologists do not expect to hold up against the rise of sea levels and the increasing intensity of storms. &nbsp;Those home-owners are a discreet group, with an easily recognizable common interest. &nbsp;They are already suffering, from not being able to get decent home insurance. &nbsp;Would their ad hoc coalition have standing? &nbsp;Or is their only hope to go through the Commonwealth of Massachusetts?</p><p>
And how about extra-nationals? &nbsp;Would the Province of Quebec, also famous for its sugar maples, have standing? &nbsp;Would the Canadian provinces and territories with polar bears have standing?</p><p>
In the latter cases -- and other, much more distant countries, such as the island countries of the Pacific, might be prospective petitioners too -- , one can foresee problems. &nbsp;But I would hope that a decision against hearing all such suits should not restrict the standing of US citizens at least.

<p>Chickens are our cousins!
So are other sensitive animals!
Enough is enough!
No more factory farms!</p></p>
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            <title>Comment #4 by UdusVeoo</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 18:06:47 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>MASSACHUSETTS VS EPA<p>The discussion looks great it will be a great action taken to the massachusett vs EPA case.<br>
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UdusVeoo<p>
<a href="http://www.treatmentcenters.org/massachusetts" rel="nofollow">Massachusetts Treatment Centers<br>
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				<p><strong>MASSACHUSETTS VS EPA<p>The discussion looks great it will be a great action taken to the massachusett vs EPA case.<br>
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UdusVeoo<p>
<a href="http://www.treatmentcenters.org/massachusetts" rel="nofollow">Massachusetts Treatment Centers<br>
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            <title>Comment #5 by alex45</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 00:54:46 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Interesting...<p>This article is really interesting one...<br>
The majority people agree with this issue...<br>
This is a great action...<p>
Thanks,<p>
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Alex<p>
<a href="http://www.drugtreatments.com/massachusetts" rel="nofollow">Massachusetts Drug Treatment</a></p></br></p></p></br></br></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>Interesting...<p>This article is really interesting one...<br>
The majority people agree with this issue...<br>
This is a great action...<p>
Thanks,<p>
=====<br>
Alex<p>
<a href="http://www.drugtreatments.com/massachusetts" rel="nofollow">Massachusetts Drug Treatment</a></p></br></p></p></br></br></p></strong></p>
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