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            <title>Comment #1 by stevenearlsalmony</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 00:17:40 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Has the time come to do things differently?<p>As I understand the IPCC Report, it is telling us that if we keep doing what we are doing now, we will keep getting what are getting now. The Report makes clear that dire consequences will result from "staying the course" marked by the &nbsp;imperious choice of the managers of the world's political economy and their bought-and-paid-for politicians to endlessly grow the artificially designed and potentially unsustainable global economy. <p>
What kind of a future do we intend for our children? &nbsp;If we keep doing what we are doing now, we could end up leaving our children a world that is unfit for human habitation. &nbsp;The integrity of the Earth and and life as we know it could become dangerously undermined and irreversibly diminished by the adamant and relentless efforts of too many leaders of humanity to endlessly expand the human economy, to advocate unrestrained per capita consumption of limited resources, and to continuously condone the unbridled increase of absolute global human population numbers on a relatively small, finite, noticeably frangible planet the size of Earth.<p>
Perhaps our leaders will consider how certain distinctly human overgrowth activities of the Homo sapiens species could become patently unsustainable in this wondrous planetary home God has blessed us to inhabit..... and not to overwhelm, I suppose.<p>
Steven Earl Salmony, Ph.D., M.P.A.<br>
AWAREness Campaign on The Human Population<br>
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				<p><strong>Has the time come to do things differently?<p>As I understand the IPCC Report, it is telling us that if we keep doing what we are doing now, we will keep getting what are getting now. The Report makes clear that dire consequences will result from "staying the course" marked by the &nbsp;imperious choice of the managers of the world's political economy and their bought-and-paid-for politicians to endlessly grow the artificially designed and potentially unsustainable global economy. <p>
What kind of a future do we intend for our children? &nbsp;If we keep doing what we are doing now, we could end up leaving our children a world that is unfit for human habitation. &nbsp;The integrity of the Earth and and life as we know it could become dangerously undermined and irreversibly diminished by the adamant and relentless efforts of too many leaders of humanity to endlessly expand the human economy, to advocate unrestrained per capita consumption of limited resources, and to continuously condone the unbridled increase of absolute global human population numbers on a relatively small, finite, noticeably frangible planet the size of Earth.<p>
Perhaps our leaders will consider how certain distinctly human overgrowth activities of the Homo sapiens species could become patently unsustainable in this wondrous planetary home God has blessed us to inhabit..... and not to overwhelm, I suppose.<p>
Steven Earl Salmony, Ph.D., M.P.A.<br>
AWAREness Campaign on The Human Population<br>
<a href="http://sustainabilitysoutheast.org/" rel="nofollow">http://sustainabilitysoutheast.org/</a></br></br></p></p></p></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #2 by Delay And Deny</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 02:13:11 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>And Now, A Rebuttal from the Loyal Opposition...<p>1. Altered frequencies and intensities of extreme weather (heat waves, heavy precipitation events, droughts, more severe storms, extreme sea level events), together with sea level rise, are expected to have mostly adverse effects on natural and human systems<p>
<b>One would always expect that.<p>
2. Anthropogenic warming could lead to some impacts that are abrupt or irreversible, depending upon the rate and magnitude of the climate change.<p>
<b>One needs to defined those impacts and to isolate those caused specifically by AGW versus NGW.<p>
3. Anthropogenic warming and sea level rise will continue for centuries due to the timescales associated with the climate processes and feedbacks, even if GHG concentrations were to be stabilized.<p>
<b>Yet, water tables are sinking. &nbsp; The Bailo model analyzes this as a precursor to radically dropping sea levels.<p>
4. Climate change preferentially selects the poorest and most vulnerable in any society.<p>
<b>Hah! &nbsp; The warming winters in New York and New England has relieved people of the dependence on oil -- which is entirely owned by rich people. &nbsp; Global Warming benefits the poorest of the poor. &nbsp;<p>
That is why rich Liberals fear Global Warming because they can't make money on their real estate investments and energy stocks if nobody wants fossil fuel.

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				<p><strong>And Now, A Rebuttal from the Loyal Opposition...<p>1. Altered frequencies and intensities of extreme weather (heat waves, heavy precipitation events, droughts, more severe storms, extreme sea level events), together with sea level rise, are expected to have mostly adverse effects on natural and human systems<p>
<b>One would always expect that.<p>
2. Anthropogenic warming could lead to some impacts that are abrupt or irreversible, depending upon the rate and magnitude of the climate change.<p>
<b>One needs to defined those impacts and to isolate those caused specifically by AGW versus NGW.<p>
3. Anthropogenic warming and sea level rise will continue for centuries due to the timescales associated with the climate processes and feedbacks, even if GHG concentrations were to be stabilized.<p>
<b>Yet, water tables are sinking. &nbsp; The Bailo model analyzes this as a precursor to radically dropping sea levels.<p>
4. Climate change preferentially selects the poorest and most vulnerable in any society.<p>
<b>Hah! &nbsp; The warming winters in New York and New England has relieved people of the dependence on oil -- which is entirely owned by rich people. &nbsp; Global Warming benefits the poorest of the poor. &nbsp;<p>
That is why rich Liberals fear Global Warming because they can't make money on their real estate investments and energy stocks if nobody wants fossil fuel.

<p><b><a href="http://log.texeme.com" rel="nofollow">My Log</a></b></p></p></b></p></p></b></p></p></b></p></p></b></p></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #3 by GreyFlcn</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 02:53:20 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Uhg</strong></p><p>That is why rich Liberals fear Global Warming because they can't make money on their energy stocks if nobody wants fossil fuel.</p><p>
So I guess it's up to those hippy Republicans to force the Democrats to get off Fossil Fuels?</p>
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				<p><strong>Uhg</strong></p><p>That is why rich Liberals fear Global Warming because they can't make money on their energy stocks if nobody wants fossil fuel.</p><p>
So I guess it's up to those hippy Republicans to force the Democrats to get off Fossil Fuels?</p>
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            <title>Comment #4 by Delay And Deny</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 04:40:06 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Red Rads<p>So I guess it's up to those hippy Republicans to force the Democrats to get off Fossil Fuels?<p>
Yep.<p>
<a href="http://www1.eere.energy.gov/hydrogenandfuelcells/presidents_initiative.html" rel="nofollow">http://www1.eere.energy.gov/hydrogenandfuelcells/presiden ...<p>
President's Hydrogen Fuel Initiative<br>
Photo of President Bush speaking at the State of the Union Address, January 28, 2003<p>
The Hydrogen Fuel Initiative aims to reverse America's growing dependence on foreign oil by developing the technology needed for commercially viable hydrogen-powered fuel cells.<p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; "A simple chemical reaction between hydrogen and oxygen generates energy, which can be used to power a car producing only water, not exhaust fumes. With a new national commitment, our scientists and engineers will overcome obstacles to taking these cars from laboratory to showroom ... Join me in this important innovation to make our air significantly cleaner, and our country much less dependent on foreign sources of energy."<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; -- President Bush, State of the Union Address, January 28, 2003<p>
Note -- January 2003.<p>
Wasn't that more than a year before Al Gore?

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				<p><strong>Red Rads<p>So I guess it's up to those hippy Republicans to force the Democrats to get off Fossil Fuels?<p>
Yep.<p>
<a href="http://www1.eere.energy.gov/hydrogenandfuelcells/presidents_initiative.html" rel="nofollow">http://www1.eere.energy.gov/hydrogenandfuelcells/presiden ...<p>
President's Hydrogen Fuel Initiative<br>
Photo of President Bush speaking at the State of the Union Address, January 28, 2003<p>
The Hydrogen Fuel Initiative aims to reverse America's growing dependence on foreign oil by developing the technology needed for commercially viable hydrogen-powered fuel cells.<p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; "A simple chemical reaction between hydrogen and oxygen generates energy, which can be used to power a car producing only water, not exhaust fumes. With a new national commitment, our scientists and engineers will overcome obstacles to taking these cars from laboratory to showroom ... Join me in this important innovation to make our air significantly cleaner, and our country much less dependent on foreign sources of energy."<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; -- President Bush, State of the Union Address, January 28, 2003<p>
Note -- January 2003.<p>
Wasn't that more than a year before Al Gore?

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            <title>Comment #5 by stevenearlsalmony</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 09:49:38 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>on the subject of malfeasance..........<p>With the establishment of the scientific consensus on climate change, is it reasonable and sensible to ask of government officials who remain obstructive and in denial of this overwhelming evidence if they are perfidiously engaged in a violation of public trust and, therefore, malfeasant in office?<p>
Steven Earl Salmony<br>
AWAREness Campaign on The Human Population<br>
<a href="http://sustainabilitysoutheast.org/" rel="nofollow">http://sustainabilitysoutheast.org/</a></br></br></p></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>on the subject of malfeasance..........<p>With the establishment of the scientific consensus on climate change, is it reasonable and sensible to ask of government officials who remain obstructive and in denial of this overwhelming evidence if they are perfidiously engaged in a violation of public trust and, therefore, malfeasant in office?<p>
Steven Earl Salmony<br>
AWAREness Campaign on The Human Population<br>
<a href="http://sustainabilitysoutheast.org/" rel="nofollow">http://sustainabilitysoutheast.org/</a></br></br></p></p></strong></p>
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