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            <title>Comment #1 by Delay And Deny</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 14:58:53 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Let Go, Joe</strong></p><p><br>
You started off good...I agree, these problems are better handled by VC and small startups. &nbsp; We'd kill two birds with one stone: rebuilding the economy and giving us breathable air.</p><p>
But then you descend into hoakey liberal claptrap about how government should regulate it all.</p><p>
Why not make the break.</p><p>
Go 100 percent private enterprise.</p><p>
Stop worrying about "regulation" and concentrate on innnovation.</p><p>
There's only one way out...up.<br>
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				<p><strong>Let Go, Joe</strong></p><p><br>
You started off good...I agree, these problems are better handled by VC and small startups. &nbsp; We'd kill two birds with one stone: rebuilding the economy and giving us breathable air.</p><p>
But then you descend into hoakey liberal claptrap about how government should regulate it all.</p><p>
Why not make the break.</p><p>
Go 100 percent private enterprise.</p><p>
Stop worrying about "regulation" and concentrate on innnovation.</p><p>
There's only one way out...up.<br>
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            <title>Comment #2 by randino</title>
			<link>http://www.grist.org/article/valley-forging/</link>
			<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 21:43:42 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Support anyone doing good stuff.</strong></p><p>But we are currenty digging ourselves out of the rubble of our financial system because we had a child like faith in the Masters of the Universe in the corporate world. They have made a shambles of the world economy and now we are saying they are the key to saving the world environment????? It is sort of like giving the keys to someone who is both a convicted drunk driver and a sexual predator, and asking them to drive your daughter to college. </p><p>
The market is a good servant and a lousy master.<br>
It seems we should've learned that by now. We certainly should keep it in mind and avoid being like the Mustache, who has never met a CEO he hasn't slobbered over. I say work with CEOs, but don't for a moment forget that they live for profit, not the greater good. </p><p>
Randy Cunningham<br>
Cleveland, OH 

<p>Randy Cunningham</p></br></br></p>
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				<p><strong>Support anyone doing good stuff.</strong></p><p>But we are currenty digging ourselves out of the rubble of our financial system because we had a child like faith in the Masters of the Universe in the corporate world. They have made a shambles of the world economy and now we are saying they are the key to saving the world environment????? It is sort of like giving the keys to someone who is both a convicted drunk driver and a sexual predator, and asking them to drive your daughter to college. </p><p>
The market is a good servant and a lousy master.<br>
It seems we should've learned that by now. We certainly should keep it in mind and avoid being like the Mustache, who has never met a CEO he hasn't slobbered over. I say work with CEOs, but don't for a moment forget that they live for profit, not the greater good. </p><p>
Randy Cunningham<br>
Cleveland, OH 

<p>Randy Cunningham</p></br></br></p>
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            <title>Comment #3 by amazingdrx</title>
			<link>http://www.grist.org/article/valley-forging/</link>
			<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 23:52:23 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Watch and wait</strong></p><p>If you want to buy shares in the next google, a clean energy/conservation google, watch what these VCs do. &nbsp;Thanks for the heads up Joe!</p><p>
This is like being in on the start of the internet technology boom.</p><p>
Remember, every time renewable energy or conservation reduces fossil fuel use, the cost of that fuel will drop again.</p><p>
Like Whale oil. &nbsp;Who uses Whale oil now? &nbsp;Only Whales, and their predators.</p><p>
So gas guzzling will become fashionable over and over again as the price drops with lower consumption. &nbsp;Look at what this recession has done to oil prices. &nbsp;What would a depression do?</p><p>
We may find out.</p><p>
Will 500 hp gas guzzling engines sit idle most of the drive while a small electric motor powers the classic gas guzzler? &nbsp;The monster will only rev to life ocasionally.

<p>http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog     John Schneider, Northern Wisconsin </p></p>
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				<p><strong>Watch and wait</strong></p><p>If you want to buy shares in the next google, a clean energy/conservation google, watch what these VCs do. &nbsp;Thanks for the heads up Joe!</p><p>
This is like being in on the start of the internet technology boom.</p><p>
Remember, every time renewable energy or conservation reduces fossil fuel use, the cost of that fuel will drop again.</p><p>
Like Whale oil. &nbsp;Who uses Whale oil now? &nbsp;Only Whales, and their predators.</p><p>
So gas guzzling will become fashionable over and over again as the price drops with lower consumption. &nbsp;Look at what this recession has done to oil prices. &nbsp;What would a depression do?</p><p>
We may find out.</p><p>
Will 500 hp gas guzzling engines sit idle most of the drive while a small electric motor powers the classic gas guzzler? &nbsp;The monster will only rev to life ocasionally.

<p>http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog     John Schneider, Northern Wisconsin </p></p>
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            <title>Comment #4 by kaibosworth</title>
			<link>http://www.grist.org/article/valley-forging/</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 01:05:18 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>yikes</strong></p><p>This article is scary. These guys do NOT care about whether or not their products actually reduce CO2 emissions.</p><p>
"When I asked Doerr whether he was investing to save the environment, he said, "We are ruthlessly single-minded about our job, which is to make a lot of money for our investors.""</p><p>
Perfect opportunity for greenwashing, exploitation, and rising rates of consumption.</p><p>
Capitalism is the problem, not the solution. Global warming is only a symptom.</p>
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				<p><strong>yikes</strong></p><p>This article is scary. These guys do NOT care about whether or not their products actually reduce CO2 emissions.</p><p>
"When I asked Doerr whether he was investing to save the environment, he said, "We are ruthlessly single-minded about our job, which is to make a lot of money for our investors.""</p><p>
Perfect opportunity for greenwashing, exploitation, and rising rates of consumption.</p><p>
Capitalism is the problem, not the solution. Global warming is only a symptom.</p>
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            <title>Comment #5 by sunflower</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 01:58:06 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>The sun does not shine when oil is cheap.</strong></p><p>We need angels.</p>
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				<p><strong>The sun does not shine when oil is cheap.</strong></p><p>We need angels.</p>
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            <title>Comment #6 by Anna Haynes</title>
			<link>http://www.grist.org/article/valley-forging/</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 06:55:56 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Wish I could buy shares in them</strong></p><p>I <strong>really</strong> wish there was a way to buy shares in Kleiner Perkins, for my 401(k).</p><p>
I'd much rather have them directing my money than the corporations that've got it now.</p>
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				<p><strong>Wish I could buy shares in them</strong></p><p>I <strong>really</strong> wish there was a way to buy shares in Kleiner Perkins, for my 401(k).</p><p>
I'd much rather have them directing my money than the corporations that've got it now.</p>
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            <title>Comment #7 by stevenearlsalmony</title>
			<link>http://www.grist.org/article/valley-forging/</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 07:04:03 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Missing the point.............?<p>Somehow, it appears that we have to focus more attention upon the emerging and converging scientific evidence of ominously looming global threats to the family of humanity that are posed by the overpopulation, overproduction and overpopulation activities of the human species rampantly overspreading Earth in our time. <p>
The ecological challenges presented to the human community in these early years of Century XXI are vital matters for discussion; however, our failure to acknowledge in open discussion "the human population factor" as a primary, driving force, one that is precipitating the ecological challenges visible on the far horizon, is making our best, necessary efforts insufficient.<p>
Always,<p>
Steve<p>
Steven Earl Salmony<br>
AWAREness Campaign on The Human Population,<br>
established 2001<br>
<a href="http://sustainabilitysoutheast.org/index.php" rel="nofollow">http://sustainabilitysoutheast.org/index.php<br>
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				<p><strong>Missing the point.............?<p>Somehow, it appears that we have to focus more attention upon the emerging and converging scientific evidence of ominously looming global threats to the family of humanity that are posed by the overpopulation, overproduction and overpopulation activities of the human species rampantly overspreading Earth in our time. <p>
The ecological challenges presented to the human community in these early years of Century XXI are vital matters for discussion; however, our failure to acknowledge in open discussion "the human population factor" as a primary, driving force, one that is precipitating the ecological challenges visible on the far horizon, is making our best, necessary efforts insufficient.<p>
Always,<p>
Steve<p>
Steven Earl Salmony<br>
AWAREness Campaign on The Human Population,<br>
established 2001<br>
<a href="http://sustainabilitysoutheast.org/index.php" rel="nofollow">http://sustainabilitysoutheast.org/index.php<br>
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