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            <title>Comment #1 by GreenEngineer</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2007 07:16:44 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Answers</strong></p><p>a,a,a,a,a</p><p>
But I live in Berkeley (essentially).</p><p>
There's an outfit in Oakland (nearby) called Spiral Gardens that is particularly cool. &nbsp;They run both and urban farm and a nursery. &nbsp;The nursery sells plants at market rate to support the farm, while the farm sells produce at cost to the local community (which is lower-income). &nbsp;Some of the local kids help out at the farm. &nbsp;When I was there buying plants for the first time, a little girl, maybe 6 or 7, ran up to the proprietress to get the key to the chicken coop so that she could collect eggs. &nbsp;She was so excited to work with the chickens. &nbsp;It was really cool.</p>
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				<p><strong>Answers</strong></p><p>a,a,a,a,a</p><p>
But I live in Berkeley (essentially).</p><p>
There's an outfit in Oakland (nearby) called Spiral Gardens that is particularly cool. &nbsp;They run both and urban farm and a nursery. &nbsp;The nursery sells plants at market rate to support the farm, while the farm sells produce at cost to the local community (which is lower-income). &nbsp;Some of the local kids help out at the farm. &nbsp;When I was there buying plants for the first time, a little girl, maybe 6 or 7, ran up to the proprietress to get the key to the chicken coop so that she could collect eggs. &nbsp;She was so excited to work with the chickens. &nbsp;It was really cool.</p>
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            <title>Comment #2 by Ron Steenblik</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2007 23:53:12 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Carl,<p>You and <a href="http://www.earth-policy.org/Books/Seg/PB2ch11_ss4.htm" rel="nofollow">Lester Brown seem to have received the same brain wave.</a></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>Carl,<p>You and <a href="http://www.earth-policy.org/Books/Seg/PB2ch11_ss4.htm" rel="nofollow">Lester Brown seem to have received the same brain wave.</a></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #3 by SMLowry</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 17 Mar 2007 09:46:05 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>local</strong></p><p>c, b, a, b, a</p><p>
I tend a rather eclectic organic veggie, herb (for cooking and healing), and flower garden. So in the summer and early fall I buy few vegetables, and I'm able to store some (potatoes, garlic, carrots, onions, leeks) and preserve others for rest of the year.</p><p>
In my area (western Maine near NH border), I've noticed the larger dairy farms going out of business (land mostly converted to housing developments many of them second homes), but there is one small dairy farm and another non-dairy farm that grow berries and veggies, and they have a year-round market where they sell things like soup, baked goods, local cheeses, eggs, as well as meat from the farm, christmas trees, maple syrup, apples, etc. And there seem to be more small vegetable/herb growers as people try to buy more local food and some restaurants try to source local as well. There are farms not far away that raise buffalo, poultry, beef, and a decent number of beekeepers. We also have a CSA nearby for those without gardens. &nbsp;I work in a natural foods grocery (small, non-chain) part time and people seem more aware of the importance of buying more locally, and organic. But I'm aware this is a "rarified" environment. People who farm have a hard time making a living at it, most also have to work elsewhere. The exception is the dairy farm I mentioned earlier, that is so diversified. Oh, they also grow flowers that you can pick yourself. &nbsp;</p>
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				<p><strong>local</strong></p><p>c, b, a, b, a</p><p>
I tend a rather eclectic organic veggie, herb (for cooking and healing), and flower garden. So in the summer and early fall I buy few vegetables, and I'm able to store some (potatoes, garlic, carrots, onions, leeks) and preserve others for rest of the year.</p><p>
In my area (western Maine near NH border), I've noticed the larger dairy farms going out of business (land mostly converted to housing developments many of them second homes), but there is one small dairy farm and another non-dairy farm that grow berries and veggies, and they have a year-round market where they sell things like soup, baked goods, local cheeses, eggs, as well as meat from the farm, christmas trees, maple syrup, apples, etc. And there seem to be more small vegetable/herb growers as people try to buy more local food and some restaurants try to source local as well. There are farms not far away that raise buffalo, poultry, beef, and a decent number of beekeepers. We also have a CSA nearby for those without gardens. &nbsp;I work in a natural foods grocery (small, non-chain) part time and people seem more aware of the importance of buying more locally, and organic. But I'm aware this is a "rarified" environment. People who farm have a hard time making a living at it, most also have to work elsewhere. The exception is the dairy farm I mentioned earlier, that is so diversified. Oh, they also grow flowers that you can pick yourself. &nbsp;</p>
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            <title>Comment #4 by Thistle</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 18 Mar 2007 09:49:35 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>cities need local food, too</strong></p><p>I am sorry to have to answer the survey thusly:</p><p>
a, b, a, c, b</p><p>
How I wish we had the mindset and support structure found up in central and northern California!</p><p>
Farmers markets in the San Diego area do offer local produce, although not all of it is either local or sustainably farmed, so you have to ask first. &nbsp;I found one and only one CSA farm that made deliveries to the city, from 80 miles north. &nbsp;Subscribed to them for a year until we bought a house with a small yard and I was able to start gardening. &nbsp;Now I grow all my own organic vegetables in containers in the backyard, and have a mini orchard of low-chill semi-dwarf fruit trees (apple, plums, nectarines, pear) in the front, where the sun is the best.</p><p>
A few years back there was a local farmer who raised pastured poultry for sale in the local quasi-health food market, but he's gone out of business. &nbsp;Now that market sells an "organic" chicken shipped in from Nebraska. &nbsp;I'm still searching for a local source of grass-fed meats and eggs.</p><p>
I always ask "where does this come from?" at the supermarkets, and nearly always receive a blank stare in return. &nbsp;There doesn't appear to be a "buy local" movement here at all.</p><p>
This issue is close to my heart, however, as I feel very strongly that cities can and should be growing their own fresh food in available space within city limits. &nbsp;What's missing is organization and entrepreneur support. &nbsp;Check out spinfarming.com - they have the right idea!</p>
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				<p><strong>cities need local food, too</strong></p><p>I am sorry to have to answer the survey thusly:</p><p>
a, b, a, c, b</p><p>
How I wish we had the mindset and support structure found up in central and northern California!</p><p>
Farmers markets in the San Diego area do offer local produce, although not all of it is either local or sustainably farmed, so you have to ask first. &nbsp;I found one and only one CSA farm that made deliveries to the city, from 80 miles north. &nbsp;Subscribed to them for a year until we bought a house with a small yard and I was able to start gardening. &nbsp;Now I grow all my own organic vegetables in containers in the backyard, and have a mini orchard of low-chill semi-dwarf fruit trees (apple, plums, nectarines, pear) in the front, where the sun is the best.</p><p>
A few years back there was a local farmer who raised pastured poultry for sale in the local quasi-health food market, but he's gone out of business. &nbsp;Now that market sells an "organic" chicken shipped in from Nebraska. &nbsp;I'm still searching for a local source of grass-fed meats and eggs.</p><p>
I always ask "where does this come from?" at the supermarkets, and nearly always receive a blank stare in return. &nbsp;There doesn't appear to be a "buy local" movement here at all.</p><p>
This issue is close to my heart, however, as I feel very strongly that cities can and should be growing their own fresh food in available space within city limits. &nbsp;What's missing is organization and entrepreneur support. &nbsp;Check out spinfarming.com - they have the right idea!</p>
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            <title>Comment #5 by VidaDC</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 13:22:25 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Urban Food Gardens in Washington, D.C.</strong></p><p>answers: a, a, a, c, a</p><p>
Unfortunately, unlike NY and Phili, D.C. has very few local food projects. &nbsp;The several community food projects that have existed over the years are closed- for various reasons. &nbsp;There are community garden sites that have not had condos built on top of them (yet), and the wait list to get a plot is over 2 years long! &nbsp;So there is a WANT. &nbsp;But there isn't much support from the people who make all the decisions. &nbsp;Farmer's markets are popular and are sprouting all over the city! &nbsp;Still, this food isn't always affordable to most of the cities population. &nbsp;(local and affordable fresh produce is really what we should strive for). But I am "encouraged", as I say in question 5. &nbsp;There is energy in the city that supports the local food movement and it's coming out strong in support of a NEW COMMUNITY FOOD PROJECT called the 7th Street Garden. &nbsp;www.the7thstreetgarden.squarespace.com. &nbsp;It's a garden and learning center where people can learn how to grow food, and then grow it at this garden and low-income people can take home shares of food. &nbsp;Everybody gardens together on the same plots and shares the harvest! &nbsp;The support from city residents all over the city has been tremendous and it is functioning solely from donations at this point... <br>
The hard part is that these projects start and don't get money to sustain. &nbsp;The 7th Street Garden will certainly need support from District government and grants/donations to sustain its programs and staff for the long term. &nbsp;</p><p>
I do believe in the power of collaboration and people who support local food issues can support each other and spread the word on projects when you hear about them... </br></p>
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				<p><strong>Urban Food Gardens in Washington, D.C.</strong></p><p>answers: a, a, a, c, a</p><p>
Unfortunately, unlike NY and Phili, D.C. has very few local food projects. &nbsp;The several community food projects that have existed over the years are closed- for various reasons. &nbsp;There are community garden sites that have not had condos built on top of them (yet), and the wait list to get a plot is over 2 years long! &nbsp;So there is a WANT. &nbsp;But there isn't much support from the people who make all the decisions. &nbsp;Farmer's markets are popular and are sprouting all over the city! &nbsp;Still, this food isn't always affordable to most of the cities population. &nbsp;(local and affordable fresh produce is really what we should strive for). But I am "encouraged", as I say in question 5. &nbsp;There is energy in the city that supports the local food movement and it's coming out strong in support of a NEW COMMUNITY FOOD PROJECT called the 7th Street Garden. &nbsp;www.the7thstreetgarden.squarespace.com. &nbsp;It's a garden and learning center where people can learn how to grow food, and then grow it at this garden and low-income people can take home shares of food. &nbsp;Everybody gardens together on the same plots and shares the harvest! &nbsp;The support from city residents all over the city has been tremendous and it is functioning solely from donations at this point... <br>
The hard part is that these projects start and don't get money to sustain. &nbsp;The 7th Street Garden will certainly need support from District government and grants/donations to sustain its programs and staff for the long term. &nbsp;</p><p>
I do believe in the power of collaboration and people who support local food issues can support each other and spread the word on projects when you hear about them... </br></p>
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