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            <title>Comment #1 by amazingdrx</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 03:25:00 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>66 cents per gallon</strong></p><p>Ethanol proponents keep on claiming it will bring gas prices down. &nbsp;</p><p>
Meanwhile, enough electricity to take your car as far as a gallon of ethanol/gas does, still costs &nbsp;only 66 cents.</p><p>
With your own solar panels, after a few years payback in energy bill savings, your daily dose of electric "gas" would be free.</p><p>
Energy based on fuel sources, biomass, corn, sugar cane, wood chips, whatever will always go up in price with demand. &nbsp;</p><p>
Energy sources based on renewable resources become essentially free once the device that collects the energy, wind machines, wave machines, solar pV/heat cogeneration; has paid for itself in costly fossil energy saved.</p><p>
Ethanol in the tank, corn prices soar, people starve. &nbsp;</p><p>
Plugin hybrids plugged into a renewable smart grid would tend to level off energy prices at around the market price at the average payback period of this energy revolution.</p><p>
In ten years maybe half the systems needed to replace the status quo energy mess, would be paying off for their owners. &nbsp;Energy inflation could be defeated.

<p>http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog</p></p>
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				<p><strong>66 cents per gallon</strong></p><p>Ethanol proponents keep on claiming it will bring gas prices down. &nbsp;</p><p>
Meanwhile, enough electricity to take your car as far as a gallon of ethanol/gas does, still costs &nbsp;only 66 cents.</p><p>
With your own solar panels, after a few years payback in energy bill savings, your daily dose of electric "gas" would be free.</p><p>
Energy based on fuel sources, biomass, corn, sugar cane, wood chips, whatever will always go up in price with demand. &nbsp;</p><p>
Energy sources based on renewable resources become essentially free once the device that collects the energy, wind machines, wave machines, solar pV/heat cogeneration; has paid for itself in costly fossil energy saved.</p><p>
Ethanol in the tank, corn prices soar, people starve. &nbsp;</p><p>
Plugin hybrids plugged into a renewable smart grid would tend to level off energy prices at around the market price at the average payback period of this energy revolution.</p><p>
In ten years maybe half the systems needed to replace the status quo energy mess, would be paying off for their owners. &nbsp;Energy inflation could be defeated.

<p>http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog</p></p>
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            <title>Comment #2 by Biodiversivist</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 04:14:52 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Maybe Michael Jackson<p>should have stayed in the music business.<p>
This was all predictied (several times in fact) over the years on the Gristmill.

<p>In the end, it all comes down to biodiversity. <a href="http://www.poisondarts.net" rel="nofollow">Poison Darts--Protecting the biodiversity of our world</a></p></p></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>Maybe Michael Jackson<p>should have stayed in the music business.<p>
This was all predictied (several times in fact) over the years on the Gristmill.

<p>In the end, it all comes down to biodiversity. <a href="http://www.poisondarts.net" rel="nofollow">Poison Darts--Protecting the biodiversity of our world</a></p></p></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #3 by katakanadian</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 10:17:22 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Why plant less corn?</strong></p><p>Why are farmers expected to plant less corn when demand is high and expected to grow? What is more profitable that farmers are planting instead or can they simply not afford the fertilizer?</p>
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				<p><strong>Why plant less corn?</strong></p><p>Why are farmers expected to plant less corn when demand is high and expected to grow? What is more profitable that farmers are planting instead or can they simply not afford the fertilizer?</p>
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            <title>Comment #4 by Pangolin</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 11:11:05 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Crop rotation<p>You simply can't plant corn every year no matter how much artificial fertilizers and minerals you are willing to pour on the soil. If nothing else you will breed disease. <p>
Farmers who probably added an extra year of corn into thier rotation to take advantage of a (possibly) temporary rise in prices have to plant something else for a season or two. <p>
Also with the run up in wheat prices and lack of stock in reserve wheat prices that are now at record highs are not going to go down before a crop can be brought in. Wheat, producing less total calories per acre, getting a larger share of farmland will only increase the price of corn further. <p>
A farmer who can plant half his fields in wheat and half in corn hedges his bets several ways. As long as he brings in a crop he's maximizing income. 

<p><a href="http://putcarbonback.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">Put  the Carbon Back</a></p></p></p></p></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>Crop rotation<p>You simply can't plant corn every year no matter how much artificial fertilizers and minerals you are willing to pour on the soil. If nothing else you will breed disease. <p>
Farmers who probably added an extra year of corn into thier rotation to take advantage of a (possibly) temporary rise in prices have to plant something else for a season or two. <p>
Also with the run up in wheat prices and lack of stock in reserve wheat prices that are now at record highs are not going to go down before a crop can be brought in. Wheat, producing less total calories per acre, getting a larger share of farmland will only increase the price of corn further. <p>
A farmer who can plant half his fields in wheat and half in corn hedges his bets several ways. As long as he brings in a crop he's maximizing income. 

<p><a href="http://putcarbonback.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">Put  the Carbon Back</a></p></p></p></p></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #5 by bigTom</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 11:51:03 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong> Not all bad news!</strong></p><p>&nbsp; Many of those who built corn to ethanol plants will lose their shirts. Isn't this a good thing?</p>
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				<p><strong> Not all bad news!</strong></p><p>&nbsp; Many of those who built corn to ethanol plants will lose their shirts. Isn't this a good thing?</p>
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            <title>Comment #6 by otocco</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 12:59:56 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>The sins of petroleum</strong></p><p>Fertilizer costs have gone up tenfold in the last three to five years. &nbsp;Alas, when the system is based on petroleum derived chemicals and built to fuel the petroleum industry, someone has to lose. &nbsp;That someone is very often the farmer, who now has to find a way to afford the inputs to take advantage of $6 per bushel corn. &nbsp;The margins for farming haven't changed, despite the record price for corn. &nbsp; </p><p>
To give you an idea as to how bad the cost of fertilizer has been for farmers, until recently most livestock producers have looked at manure as a "problem" they had to dispose of. &nbsp;Today many livestock farmers are considering expanding. &nbsp;Remember, these guys have to buy that $6 corn and feed it to their animals at a net loss when they go to sell the critters. &nbsp;Why would they be considering expansion in herd numbers? Because of the manure value of the animals. &nbsp;There are folks that have essentially bought future manure production of large confinement operations so they can have the fertilizer to grow that $6 corn.<br>
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				<p><strong>The sins of petroleum</strong></p><p>Fertilizer costs have gone up tenfold in the last three to five years. &nbsp;Alas, when the system is based on petroleum derived chemicals and built to fuel the petroleum industry, someone has to lose. &nbsp;That someone is very often the farmer, who now has to find a way to afford the inputs to take advantage of $6 per bushel corn. &nbsp;The margins for farming haven't changed, despite the record price for corn. &nbsp; </p><p>
To give you an idea as to how bad the cost of fertilizer has been for farmers, until recently most livestock producers have looked at manure as a "problem" they had to dispose of. &nbsp;Today many livestock farmers are considering expanding. &nbsp;Remember, these guys have to buy that $6 corn and feed it to their animals at a net loss when they go to sell the critters. &nbsp;Why would they be considering expansion in herd numbers? Because of the manure value of the animals. &nbsp;There are folks that have essentially bought future manure production of large confinement operations so they can have the fertilizer to grow that $6 corn.<br>
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            <title>Comment #7 by cheflovesbeer</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 00:44:30 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>commodities<p>Not only are farmers paying more in fuel and fertilizer. They are not getting the record prices that the <a href="http://www.link.com" rel="nofollow">commodities market is. </a></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>commodities<p>Not only are farmers paying more in fuel and fertilizer. They are not getting the record prices that the <a href="http://www.link.com" rel="nofollow">commodities market is. </a></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #8 by Tasermons Partner</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 03:45:54 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>On the plus side...</strong></p><p>...the increase in corn feed has helped in the recent price spike and subsequent consumption reduction in meat, specifically industrial cattle meat.</p>
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				<p><strong>On the plus side...</strong></p><p>...the increase in corn feed has helped in the recent price spike and subsequent consumption reduction in meat, specifically industrial cattle meat.</p>
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