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            <title>Comment #1 by david a liddle</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jun 2005 10:26:15 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>string theory</strong></p><p>I use a clothes line whenever possible - but like you don't like the stiffness of the clothes after their being dried in the sun - my answer is when I bring them in I simply throw them in the dryer for a few minutes. This fluffs them up and uses very little power. Or just wear your "hair shirt"!</p>
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				<p><strong>string theory</strong></p><p>I use a clothes line whenever possible - but like you don't like the stiffness of the clothes after their being dried in the sun - my answer is when I bring them in I simply throw them in the dryer for a few minutes. This fluffs them up and uses very little power. Or just wear your "hair shirt"!</p>
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            <title>Comment #2 by pjsmartin</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jun 2005 11:15:06 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Basements work too</strong></p><p>I'm living in Ketchikan, Alaska, where rain is measured in feet, not inches. &nbsp;An outdoor clothesline is a dream, a fantasy never to be. &nbsp;However, an indoor clothesline works wonders, and probably does anywhere someone has some extra indoor space. &nbsp;Plus, the cardboard clothing effect is greatly reduced.</p>
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				<p><strong>Basements work too</strong></p><p>I'm living in Ketchikan, Alaska, where rain is measured in feet, not inches. &nbsp;An outdoor clothesline is a dream, a fantasy never to be. &nbsp;However, an indoor clothesline works wonders, and probably does anywhere someone has some extra indoor space. &nbsp;Plus, the cardboard clothing effect is greatly reduced.</p>
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            <title>Comment #3 by pansauce</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jun 2005 12:16:49 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Number 1 consideration?</strong></p><p>The No. 1 consideration must be your outdoor space: its dimensions, location, and availability of line-stringing spots.</p><p>
Probably your number one consideration should be legality. Many municipalities and homeowners associations have rules against visible clotheslines.<br>
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				<p><strong>Number 1 consideration?</strong></p><p>The No. 1 consideration must be your outdoor space: its dimensions, location, and availability of line-stringing spots.</p><p>
Probably your number one consideration should be legality. Many municipalities and homeowners associations have rules against visible clotheslines.<br>
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            <title>Comment #4 by sproglet</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jun 2005 13:44:13 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>I grew up with clothes lines!!!</strong></p><p>Hey Being a Brit it's kind of in your genes to use a clothesline ALL year round. I too live in the Pacific NW where it rains more than in Blighty...yep it does I spoke to my Dad today and it's in the 70'-80's over there!! During the winter and the rain my Mum would string a never ending clothes line under our carport and our clothes would hang out there all day. Come the evening they would be transfered into the house and our stock pile of coat hangers would come out &nbsp;and everything from our undies to shirts were pegged or hung over the hangers. The hangers were then hung over door frames, heaters, hooks, etc. in fact pretty much anywhere inside the house where they would stay. Sometimes I felt like I lived in a Chinese laundrey, but when your dont poscess a drier you have to improvise the best you can. In fact it was not till 1990 when I came to the States that I met these energy consuming things you call driers!! I do pocess a drier but if I can get away without using it then I do, I have a indoor clothes horse and an outside whirly drier (we call them that as they whirl around in the wind.) A couple of years ago I spoke to PUD regarding my energy consumption, and they said that compared to most families of four we use a 3rd less energy than the average family. My Mum was born in 1929 and went through rationing and living in London in the 2nd world war, she nagged at us if we walked out of a room and left a single light bulb on...I now do the same with my family, I guess it's all what you grew up with!!! &nbsp; </p>
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				<p><strong>I grew up with clothes lines!!!</strong></p><p>Hey Being a Brit it's kind of in your genes to use a clothesline ALL year round. I too live in the Pacific NW where it rains more than in Blighty...yep it does I spoke to my Dad today and it's in the 70'-80's over there!! During the winter and the rain my Mum would string a never ending clothes line under our carport and our clothes would hang out there all day. Come the evening they would be transfered into the house and our stock pile of coat hangers would come out &nbsp;and everything from our undies to shirts were pegged or hung over the hangers. The hangers were then hung over door frames, heaters, hooks, etc. in fact pretty much anywhere inside the house where they would stay. Sometimes I felt like I lived in a Chinese laundrey, but when your dont poscess a drier you have to improvise the best you can. In fact it was not till 1990 when I came to the States that I met these energy consuming things you call driers!! I do pocess a drier but if I can get away without using it then I do, I have a indoor clothes horse and an outside whirly drier (we call them that as they whirl around in the wind.) A couple of years ago I spoke to PUD regarding my energy consumption, and they said that compared to most families of four we use a 3rd less energy than the average family. My Mum was born in 1929 and went through rationing and living in London in the 2nd world war, she nagged at us if we walked out of a room and left a single light bulb on...I now do the same with my family, I guess it's all what you grew up with!!! &nbsp; </p>
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            <title>Comment #5 by Mai</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jun 2005 20:30:09 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Clothesline fanatic</strong></p><p>Despite being a resident of Wonderfully raindrenched Copenhagen - Salty'n'Soaked Queen of the sea - I must profess to being a clothesline fanatic. Nothing quite beats the pleasure of going to sleep in linen that smells ever so nice after being dryed on a garden clothesline.<br>
As for the cardboardiness of the clothes a neat trick is to add a little vinegar to the washingmachine during the last rinsing cycle. This also eliminates the need for fabric softener, a nasty chemical cocktail for the aquatic environment and allergic humans alike.<br>
The recreational value of the garden can also profit from a clothesline arrangement with two poles and a rope. This can, if used only in times of total vacancy on the clothesline, be a great football - that is soccer to you - goal.</br></br></p>
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				<p><strong>Clothesline fanatic</strong></p><p>Despite being a resident of Wonderfully raindrenched Copenhagen - Salty'n'Soaked Queen of the sea - I must profess to being a clothesline fanatic. Nothing quite beats the pleasure of going to sleep in linen that smells ever so nice after being dryed on a garden clothesline.<br>
As for the cardboardiness of the clothes a neat trick is to add a little vinegar to the washingmachine during the last rinsing cycle. This also eliminates the need for fabric softener, a nasty chemical cocktail for the aquatic environment and allergic humans alike.<br>
The recreational value of the garden can also profit from a clothesline arrangement with two poles and a rope. This can, if used only in times of total vacancy on the clothesline, be a great football - that is soccer to you - goal.</br></br></p>
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            <title>Comment #6 by mihan</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jun 2005 05:16:45 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>drippy drip drip</strong></p><p>air drying is totally the way to go! the only things i put in the drier ever are my sheets and bath towels, and the occasional item covered with cat hair. two plusses that haven't been mentioned are: drying your clothes inside helps humidify your environment in the winter and cool your environment in the summer (yay, latent heat!); also it's generally better for your clothes (less wear and tear). of course, if you haul your clothes to the laundromat, you dry them there because, well, water is heavy.</p><p>
also, it should be mentioned that natural gas is much better than electric for driers as with most other appliances.</p>
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				<p><strong>drippy drip drip</strong></p><p>air drying is totally the way to go! the only things i put in the drier ever are my sheets and bath towels, and the occasional item covered with cat hair. two plusses that haven't been mentioned are: drying your clothes inside helps humidify your environment in the winter and cool your environment in the summer (yay, latent heat!); also it's generally better for your clothes (less wear and tear). of course, if you haul your clothes to the laundromat, you dry them there because, well, water is heavy.</p><p>
also, it should be mentioned that natural gas is much better than electric for driers as with most other appliances.</p>
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            <title>Comment #7 by Snowsurvivor</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jun 2005 09:17:14 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Air drying<p>I too grew up in the UK and so have always air dried clothes. &nbsp;Now I live in Canada so its a bit tricky in the winter, but I air dry inside the house when I can (you need to be careful to do this in a well-ventilated area otherwise you can get mould problems).<p>
I was going to mention the white vinegar in the rinse but someone got there before me - in addition to softening clothes it also is handy at getting rid of lint (I know about lint, I have 2 dogs). &nbsp;You only need to use about 1/4 cup per load.<p>
Lastly, I'm going to see if I can get one of these devices, they look rather good. &nbsp;<a href="http://www.shielingholidays.co.uk/products.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.shielingholidays.co.uk/products.htm</a></p></p></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>Air drying<p>I too grew up in the UK and so have always air dried clothes. &nbsp;Now I live in Canada so its a bit tricky in the winter, but I air dry inside the house when I can (you need to be careful to do this in a well-ventilated area otherwise you can get mould problems).<p>
I was going to mention the white vinegar in the rinse but someone got there before me - in addition to softening clothes it also is handy at getting rid of lint (I know about lint, I have 2 dogs). &nbsp;You only need to use about 1/4 cup per load.<p>
Lastly, I'm going to see if I can get one of these devices, they look rather good. &nbsp;<a href="http://www.shielingholidays.co.uk/products.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.shielingholidays.co.uk/products.htm</a></p></p></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #8 by Amanda Elizabeth</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jun 2005 13:11:45 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>I am an environmental newbie</strong></p><p>Why no vinyl?</p>
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				<p><strong>I am an environmental newbie</strong></p><p>Why no vinyl?</p>
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            <title>Comment #9 by ChelseaH</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 08:09:30 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Wiki Page on Clotheslines and Drying Rack Options<p>I'm a student at Pomona College in Claremont, California and recently spent a good amount of time looking into the various clothesline and drying rack options since Pomona is going to purchase some for student use and I wanted to get the best available racks for us. (Umbra actually helped me get started. See: <a href="http://www.grist.org/advice/ask/2008/02/25/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.grist.org/advice/ask/2008/02/25/index.html)<p>
In my research, I was shocked to find that there is NO good website explaining all the different clotheslines and drying rack options, so I made my own! It's a wiki page on the Tip the Planet sustainable living wiki that ANYONE CAN EDIT. You can check it out here: <a href="http://www.tiptheplanet.com/index.php?title=Air_dry_washing" rel="nofollow">http://www.tiptheplanet.com/index.php?title=Air_dry_washi ...<p>
I'm trying to spread the word so that the site becomes a clearing house for drying rack information, and people have to spend less time scouring the web for the best products. Have a look, share it with your friends, and by all means add your wisdom!<p>
Take care,<br>
Chelsea</br></p></p></a></p></a></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>Wiki Page on Clotheslines and Drying Rack Options<p>I'm a student at Pomona College in Claremont, California and recently spent a good amount of time looking into the various clothesline and drying rack options since Pomona is going to purchase some for student use and I wanted to get the best available racks for us. (Umbra actually helped me get started. See: <a href="http://www.grist.org/advice/ask/2008/02/25/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.grist.org/advice/ask/2008/02/25/index.html)<p>
In my research, I was shocked to find that there is NO good website explaining all the different clotheslines and drying rack options, so I made my own! It's a wiki page on the Tip the Planet sustainable living wiki that ANYONE CAN EDIT. You can check it out here: <a href="http://www.tiptheplanet.com/index.php?title=Air_dry_washing" rel="nofollow">http://www.tiptheplanet.com/index.php?title=Air_dry_washi ...<p>
I'm trying to spread the word so that the site becomes a clearing house for drying rack information, and people have to spend less time scouring the web for the best products. Have a look, share it with your friends, and by all means add your wisdom!<p>
Take care,<br>
Chelsea</br></p></p></a></p></a></p></strong></p>
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