<![CDATA[Grist - Comment Feed for A roundup of today’s action in the Senate Environment Committee]]> Grist Comment Feed en Comment #1 by ce1907 http://www.grist.org/article/tracking-lieberman-warner15/ Wed, 05 Dec 2007 12:28:12 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/tracking-lieberman-warner15/1 it is not a small thing

to reorganize the economy

]]> it is not a small thing

to reorganize the economy

]]> Comment #2 by ids http://www.grist.org/article/tracking-lieberman-warner15/ Wed, 05 Dec 2007 14:11:50 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/tracking-lieberman-warner15/2 climate and science of labeling

Kyoto is 1990 - 5% by 2012.

Tbe first cut in L-W doesn't begin until 2012.  L-W calls for retreat to the 1990 Clean Air Act emission levels of CO2 between 2020 - 2026.  

The incrementalist enviro org's are backward or your deep dark enviro's are simply the dead enders.  Anyhow, good for U.S. light greens.  

To celebrate in anticipation of a Democratic victory in 2008 and the end to GW, I put my heat up 5 degrees tonight.  

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Kyoto is 1990 - 5% by 2012.

Tbe first cut in L-W doesn't begin until 2012.  L-W calls for retreat to the 1990 Clean Air Act emission levels of CO2 between 2020 - 2026.  

The incrementalist enviro org's are backward or your deep dark enviro's are simply the dead enders.  Anyhow, good for U.S. light greens.  

To celebrate in anticipation of a Democratic victory in 2008 and the end to GW, I put my heat up 5 degrees tonight.  

]]> Comment #3 by Youth Movement http://www.grist.org/article/tracking-lieberman-warner15/ Wed, 05 Dec 2007 17:38:21 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/tracking-lieberman-warner15/3 Bernie Backs Down?

As a constituent and climate organizer, I'd like to hear Bernie explain himself. I'm usually a huge fan of his, but I think he may have blundered this one in a big way. Where does he stand? Where will he stand in the next congress if L-W gets vetoed?

]]> Bernie Backs Down?

As a constituent and climate organizer, I'd like to hear Bernie explain himself. I'm usually a huge fan of his, but I think he may have blundered this one in a big way. Where does he stand? Where will he stand in the next congress if L-W gets vetoed?

]]> Comment #4 by ce1907 http://www.grist.org/article/tracking-lieberman-warner15/ Wed, 05 Dec 2007 22:09:09 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/tracking-lieberman-warner15/4 Senator Sanders was a forceful advocate

at the mark-up

he would not have been more forceful if he set his hair on fire and went screaming from the room

Senator Sanders did not, and will not, back down.  It is not in him.

]]> Senator Sanders was a forceful advocate

at the mark-up

he would not have been more forceful if he set his hair on fire and went screaming from the room

Senator Sanders did not, and will not, back down.  It is not in him.

]]> Comment #5 by siahtam http://www.grist.org/article/tracking-lieberman-warner15/ Wed, 05 Dec 2007 23:27:45 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/tracking-lieberman-warner15/5 What Sanders approval may mean?

Does the fact that Bernie Sanders now approves this bill change some of your opinions that this may actually be a pretty good bill (and may be the best we're going to get for awhile)?

]]> What Sanders approval may mean?

Does the fact that Bernie Sanders now approves this bill change some of your opinions that this may actually be a pretty good bill (and may be the best we're going to get for awhile)?

]]> Comment #6 by TheGreenMiles http://www.grist.org/article/tracking-lieberman-warner15/ Thu, 06 Dec 2007 01:35:04 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/tracking-lieberman-warner15/6 What does it say about the deep greens ...

... that they're not impacting this debate?  Is it a symptom of the "environmentalism is dead" argument, that the deep greens refuse to come to the table to hammer out a deal and would rather stay on the margins screaming about how The Man is screwing it all up?

Join the discussion on global warming, recycling, and organic beer at The Green Miles!

]]> What does it say about the deep greens ...

... that they're not impacting this debate?  Is it a symptom of the "environmentalism is dead" argument, that the deep greens refuse to come to the table to hammer out a deal and would rather stay on the margins screaming about how The Man is screwing it all up?

Join the discussion on global warming, recycling, and organic beer at The Green Miles!

]]> Comment #7 by Tasermons Partner http://www.grist.org/article/tracking-lieberman-warner15/ Thu, 06 Dec 2007 02:22:23 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/tracking-lieberman-warner15/7 Shades of green...

Light green may not be as good as dark green, but it's certainly better than black...the color of smog and pollution that would continue unabated at current levels if no bill was passed.

And, as much as I would love a dark green bill, we do haveta be somewhat realistic and realize that, under current conditions, a dark green bill would probably never make it pass the Senate, much less the president (heck, the light green bill will have enough trouble makin' it as it is).

Light green beats black any day.

]]> Shades of green...

Light green may not be as good as dark green, but it's certainly better than black...the color of smog and pollution that would continue unabated at current levels if no bill was passed.

And, as much as I would love a dark green bill, we do haveta be somewhat realistic and realize that, under current conditions, a dark green bill would probably never make it pass the Senate, much less the president (heck, the light green bill will have enough trouble makin' it as it is).

Light green beats black any day.

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