<![CDATA[Grist - Comment Feed for It’s ... medium]]> Grist Comment Feed en Comment #1 by vertigo http://www.grist.org/article/the-obama-mccain-lieberman-climate-bill/ Fri, 12 Jan 2007 14:27:27 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/the-obama-mccain-lieberman-climate-bill/1 Very forward energy

After hearing his statements about energy policy that he made at move on, I think Obama has a very genuine intention to change america's environmental policy. You have to keep in mind that he's Illinois' senator and so he also has to keep the jobs of his constituents in mind. Illinois has lost a lot of manufacturing jobs and the welfare of those workers are important as well. Having a coal processing plant in the US is better than getting oil from Saudi Arabia, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't also be working on emission reduction. But it's not an either or, we will use coal rather than oil and use renewable rather than coal once the technology gets there and there is enough government regulation to force the automaker's hand.

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After hearing his statements about energy policy that he made at move on, I think Obama has a very genuine intention to change america's environmental policy. You have to keep in mind that he's Illinois' senator and so he also has to keep the jobs of his constituents in mind. Illinois has lost a lot of manufacturing jobs and the welfare of those workers are important as well. Having a coal processing plant in the US is better than getting oil from Saudi Arabia, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't also be working on emission reduction. But it's not an either or, we will use coal rather than oil and use renewable rather than coal once the technology gets there and there is enough government regulation to force the automaker's hand.

]]> Comment #2 by dlunn http://www.grist.org/article/the-obama-mccain-lieberman-climate-bill/ Fri, 12 Jan 2007 15:10:42 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/the-obama-mccain-lieberman-climate-bill/2 3 amigos

Not quite -- last year McCain and Obama got into some snarkiness, but I do find it interesting that these three go-it-alone type guys are hanging together like this. Think it might be that their maverickness gets synergized and magnified by their proximity to each other. Just a theory.

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Not quite -- last year McCain and Obama got into some snarkiness, but I do find it interesting that these three go-it-alone type guys are hanging together like this. Think it might be that their maverickness gets synergized and magnified by their proximity to each other. Just a theory.

]]> Comment #3 by sunflower http://www.grist.org/article/the-obama-mccain-lieberman-climate-bill/ Fri, 12 Jan 2007 15:18:34 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/the-obama-mccain-lieberman-climate-bill/3 Obama

does not understand the threat of global warming.

Reducing the market for Saudi oil via efficient cars and public transit is much cleaner and cheaper than coal to liquids.

Reducing the market for Saudi oil for heat and hot water via efficient homes and solar hot water collectors is much cleaner and cheaper than CTL.

Creating dirty jobs for political expediency at the expense of future civilizations is just wrong.

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does not understand the threat of global warming.

Reducing the market for Saudi oil via efficient cars and public transit is much cleaner and cheaper than coal to liquids.

Reducing the market for Saudi oil for heat and hot water via efficient homes and solar hot water collectors is much cleaner and cheaper than CTL.

Creating dirty jobs for political expediency at the expense of future civilizations is just wrong.

]]> Comment #4 by claxton6 http://www.grist.org/article/the-obama-mccain-lieberman-climate-bill/ Sat, 13 Jan 2007 00:58:05 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/the-obama-mccain-lieberman-climate-bill/4 am i misremembering

This seems weaker than the original McCain-Lieberman act. Am I just misremembering?

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This seems weaker than the original McCain-Lieberman act. Am I just misremembering?

]]> Comment #5 by mcar2185 http://www.grist.org/article/the-obama-mccain-lieberman-climate-bill/ Sat, 13 Jan 2007 02:59:38 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/the-obama-mccain-lieberman-climate-bill/5 It's about time

This is a bill they should have re-introduced and passed a long time ago. Finally politicians are starting to realize the threat of greenhouse gas emissions to our environment. Hopefully this gets passed quickly.

-mcar2185 at http://www.eco-cide.com/

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This is a bill they should have re-introduced and passed a long time ago. Finally politicians are starting to realize the threat of greenhouse gas emissions to our environment. Hopefully this gets passed quickly.

-mcar2185 at http://www.eco-cide.com/

]]> Comment #6 by amazingdrx http://www.grist.org/article/the-obama-mccain-lieberman-climate-bill/ Sat, 13 Jan 2007 03:31:02 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/the-obama-mccain-lieberman-climate-bill/6 2050?

Nuff said.  

What can one expect from the traitorous formerly democratic Sen?  Surge!

And McCaine?  Surge!

Shame on you Sen Obama!

BTW Dave,  Surge...URGE2.  Hehehey.  It's still good though!

http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog

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Nuff said.  

What can one expect from the traitorous formerly democratic Sen?  Surge!

And McCaine?  Surge!

Shame on you Sen Obama!

BTW Dave,  Surge...URGE2.  Hehehey.  It's still good though!

http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog

]]> Comment #7 by Steven T http://www.grist.org/article/the-obama-mccain-lieberman-climate-bill/ Sat, 13 Jan 2007 06:24:30 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/the-obama-mccain-lieberman-climate-bill/7 It's the politics

Ross Gelbspan has made a pretty convincing argument that Gore "lost" the 2000 presidential election because West Virginia went Republican for the first time in many moons.

Political reality:  The coal industry and its allies have considerable power.  How to deal with that?

Obama seems to be charting a centrist course, not unlike Mr. Clinton.  Is that selling out?  I dunno.  If I had to choose between McCain and Obama, that's a no brainer.  Am I happy about the prospect of having to choose between tweedle dum and tweedle dee?  Nope.

Perhaps even in a post-Bush era, the real action on global warming will occur at the state and local levels.

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Ross Gelbspan has made a pretty convincing argument that Gore "lost" the 2000 presidential election because West Virginia went Republican for the first time in many moons.

Political reality:  The coal industry and its allies have considerable power.  How to deal with that?

Obama seems to be charting a centrist course, not unlike Mr. Clinton.  Is that selling out?  I dunno.  If I had to choose between McCain and Obama, that's a no brainer.  Am I happy about the prospect of having to choose between tweedle dum and tweedle dee?  Nope.

Perhaps even in a post-Bush era, the real action on global warming will occur at the state and local levels.

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