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            <title>Comment #1 by bhurley</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 22 Feb 2007 21:15:59 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>And then run it on renewable power!<p>To make it really green, that server should run on green power. And In fact, there are a bunch of green server hosts springing up who do just that...I stumbled across this <a href="http://www.greenserver.org/hosting/" rel="nofollow">Green Server Directory recently and they have links to a number of green hosting companies, some of which run directly on renewable energy and some of which buy "green power" from the grid or carbon offsets.<p>
I predict that more and more sites will put the "this site runs on green power" logo (and it would be great if some organization would create a standard logo, much as the WC3 or W3C or whatever it is created standard logos for compliance with Web standards. And if that logo links to the green server directory I think you'll start seeing a lot of people switching over to green servers.</p></a></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>And then run it on renewable power!<p>To make it really green, that server should run on green power. And In fact, there are a bunch of green server hosts springing up who do just that...I stumbled across this <a href="http://www.greenserver.org/hosting/" rel="nofollow">Green Server Directory recently and they have links to a number of green hosting companies, some of which run directly on renewable energy and some of which buy "green power" from the grid or carbon offsets.<p>
I predict that more and more sites will put the "this site runs on green power" logo (and it would be great if some organization would create a standard logo, much as the WC3 or W3C or whatever it is created standard logos for compliance with Web standards. And if that logo links to the green server directory I think you'll start seeing a lot of people switching over to green servers.</p></a></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #2 by Janis Mara</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2007 04:42:54 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>How green is my 'puter</strong></p><p><br>
The little green computer that could - I love it! I'm interested to know: you explained that the server when "always on" runs at 45 watts and on 1 watt when idle, and that this uses way less energy than a toaster, no less. How much energy does it save compared to other servers?</br></p>
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				<p><strong>How green is my 'puter</strong></p><p><br>
The little green computer that could - I love it! I'm interested to know: you explained that the server when "always on" runs at 45 watts and on 1 watt when idle, and that this uses way less energy than a toaster, no less. How much energy does it save compared to other servers?</br></p>
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            <title>Comment #3 by Jerome Woody</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2007 05:38:26 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Good question<p>Janis:<p>
To answer that, it's good to compare the Z1 to a server of similar capacity. For example, the Dell <a href="http://www.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/pedge_840?c=us&amp;cs=04&amp;l=en&amp;s=bsd" rel="nofollow">PowerEdge 840 workgroup server was designed to do pretty much the same jobs as the Z1 (small business level file serving, email, low to mid-traffic web server, etc). <p>
According to Dell's <a href="http://www.dell.com/downloads/global/products/pedge/en/840_specs.pdf" rel="nofollow">Spec Sheet, the PowerEdge 840 runs at 420 Watts, almost ten times that of the Z1 (it's not toaster difference, but what is?). To Dell's defense, the Spec sheet does not give any information regarding energy saving features that may come bundled with the machine, but at risk of being to presumptuous, I doubt they can beat 1 Watt in idle mode.</a></p></a></p></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>Good question<p>Janis:<p>
To answer that, it's good to compare the Z1 to a server of similar capacity. For example, the Dell <a href="http://www.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/pedge_840?c=us&amp;cs=04&amp;l=en&amp;s=bsd" rel="nofollow">PowerEdge 840 workgroup server was designed to do pretty much the same jobs as the Z1 (small business level file serving, email, low to mid-traffic web server, etc). <p>
According to Dell's <a href="http://www.dell.com/downloads/global/products/pedge/en/840_specs.pdf" rel="nofollow">Spec Sheet, the PowerEdge 840 runs at 420 Watts, almost ten times that of the Z1 (it's not toaster difference, but what is?). To Dell's defense, the Spec sheet does not give any information regarding energy saving features that may come bundled with the machine, but at risk of being to presumptuous, I doubt they can beat 1 Watt in idle mode.</a></p></a></p></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #4 by bhurley</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2007 05:38:36 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Savings compared with other servers</strong></p><p>They say standard servers consume 3-4 times as much energy.</p><p>
Note, however, that according to their site the Z1 GEM server is marketed as an "office server" -- I'm not sure if these babies are up to the task of internet hosting...someone who knows more about servers would have to answer that question.</p>
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				<p><strong>Savings compared with other servers</strong></p><p>They say standard servers consume 3-4 times as much energy.</p><p>
Note, however, that according to their site the Z1 GEM server is marketed as an "office server" -- I'm not sure if these babies are up to the task of internet hosting...someone who knows more about servers would have to answer that question.</p>
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            <title>Comment #5 by Jerome Woody</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2007 07:25:42 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Enerprise Green Servers<p>bhurley:<p>
I wonder that too. According to a <a href="http://www.pcw.co.uk/personal-computer-world/hardware/2160269/review-zybert-computing-z1-gem" rel="nofollow">review of the machine on Personal Computer World, it does have Apache2, Mysql, and PostgreSQL preinstalled on the machine, but I reassert that this is presumed to be for small to medium size websites.But perhaps a cluster of Green Gems could be enough to power a Enterprise site like Google, Amazon, etc. </a></p></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>Enerprise Green Servers<p>bhurley:<p>
I wonder that too. According to a <a href="http://www.pcw.co.uk/personal-computer-world/hardware/2160269/review-zybert-computing-z1-gem" rel="nofollow">review of the machine on Personal Computer World, it does have Apache2, Mysql, and PostgreSQL preinstalled on the machine, but I reassert that this is presumed to be for small to medium size websites.But perhaps a cluster of Green Gems could be enough to power a Enterprise site like Google, Amazon, etc. </a></p></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #6 by heapmaster</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2007 14:15:38 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>What about Solar Powered Web Hosting<p>What about having your web site powered by solar....AISO (<a href="http://www.aiso.net" rel="nofollow">http://www.aiso.net) is 100% solar powered, both their servers and data center are powered by onsite solar panels. And they also have a partnership with Co-Op America, the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, and the U.S. Green Building Council. Plus, they are doing more then just making sure their electricity is green. Their data center and office is green too by using environmentally friendly air conditioners, solar tubes to bring in natural light, a propane powered generator instead of diesel, VMWare virtualization to reduce their server electricity usage, 6 watt energy saving desktop computers for their employees, and soon to be LEED certified as a green data center, the only public one in North America, at least that I have found so far. AISO has been featured in Inc. Magazines' Top 50 Green Companies along with the Wall Street Journal, Wired Magazine, ComputerWorld and Entrepreneur Magazine just to name a few. AISO is also the first and currently the only public data center that is a member of the U.S. Green Building Council. To find out more ways we are helping the environment check out their web site.</a></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>What about Solar Powered Web Hosting<p>What about having your web site powered by solar....AISO (<a href="http://www.aiso.net" rel="nofollow">http://www.aiso.net) is 100% solar powered, both their servers and data center are powered by onsite solar panels. And they also have a partnership with Co-Op America, the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, and the U.S. Green Building Council. Plus, they are doing more then just making sure their electricity is green. Their data center and office is green too by using environmentally friendly air conditioners, solar tubes to bring in natural light, a propane powered generator instead of diesel, VMWare virtualization to reduce their server electricity usage, 6 watt energy saving desktop computers for their employees, and soon to be LEED certified as a green data center, the only public one in North America, at least that I have found so far. AISO has been featured in Inc. Magazines' Top 50 Green Companies along with the Wall Street Journal, Wired Magazine, ComputerWorld and Entrepreneur Magazine just to name a few. AISO is also the first and currently the only public data center that is a member of the U.S. Green Building Council. To find out more ways we are helping the environment check out their web site.</a></p></strong></p>
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