this sickens me. "we put the meat on the pole, not on the plate"? glad to know animals merit more concern than women.

I second Sabi - the story about the vegan strip club is deeply sickening and offensive. Whatever happened to sustainable environmentalism, that cares about social rights and equality as well as just green-ness?

Get a grip on your pole guys and gals. Really, that will be enough of this "Evangelical-like" prude ness. We have too much of that kind of pompous high minded crap in our culture. The cruelty and slavery of animals for food purposes is already a highly changed issue. Let's not add more human misery to it. This guy is relevant.

Don't exchange "cruelty and slavery of animals" for "objectification of women." The tactics of by any means necessary just ends up preaching to the converted and no one else.

I usually love it when vegan food turns up in strange places, but this is a little bizarre. Strip club attendees are probably the least likely of any group to part with their meat and dairy, but I guess the owner likes a challenge.

There is no "exchanging" going on here. The word objectification, as your using it, sounds like you think it is immoral or somehow offensive to a deity that you may be holding in your minds imagination or at the very least you think it to be unhealthy for the women for which we are speaking about. Think for a moment about things that anyone would aspire to or actions and behaviors they have or continue to act out. To label something as immoral requires ones own perceptions and prejudices to illuminate it. Those internal qualities do not necessarily hold true for the rest of us. It is true that some exotic dancers are being taken advantage of by others and might not choose to do what they are doing. I have not met a single one that is doing it under any threat although some of them are kind of "dim" upstairs. I would not condemn my gender or race because of something stupid I did, or because of what someone else might think about it. Your rhetoric on this subject is using the idea healthier foods and living as a "wedge issue" to promote your idea of what is wrong or right. These women have free will and infinite diversity is part of our world whether we like it or not.  Peace, out.