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            <title>Comment #1 by Delay And Deny</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 16:51:55 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Obama's Bar-B-Que Menu</strong></p><p>At first Obama proposed two burgers for everyone. &nbsp;But he realized public funding wouldn't cover it, so he decided to use private sources. &nbsp;At the barbecue, he said that lettuce would be banned, but garden growers protested and he capitulated, changing a long standing policy. &nbsp; Initially, he said he would "go the barbeque", but later sent an advisor, saying he would not stoop to "McCain like" grilling tactics. &nbsp;He then offered subsidies to barbecuers...but only if they limited their C02 to near zero. &nbsp;Protests erupted...and he said they could grill, but only if the local coal plant would reduce electricity...which he fears would bankrupt the economy. &nbsp; Meeting with coal representatives, he reversed his position, and instead sent Bill Clinton to all the barbecues to make amends. &nbsp; Clinton ate half the hamburgers and left when there was no more relish. &nbsp; Obama's policy remains cautious, with a touch of optimism and some glazed onions.<br>
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				<p><strong>Obama's Bar-B-Que Menu</strong></p><p>At first Obama proposed two burgers for everyone. &nbsp;But he realized public funding wouldn't cover it, so he decided to use private sources. &nbsp;At the barbecue, he said that lettuce would be banned, but garden growers protested and he capitulated, changing a long standing policy. &nbsp; Initially, he said he would "go the barbeque", but later sent an advisor, saying he would not stoop to "McCain like" grilling tactics. &nbsp;He then offered subsidies to barbecuers...but only if they limited their C02 to near zero. &nbsp;Protests erupted...and he said they could grill, but only if the local coal plant would reduce electricity...which he fears would bankrupt the economy. &nbsp; Meeting with coal representatives, he reversed his position, and instead sent Bill Clinton to all the barbecues to make amends. &nbsp; Clinton ate half the hamburgers and left when there was no more relish. &nbsp; Obama's policy remains cautious, with a touch of optimism and some glazed onions.<br>
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            <title>Comment #2 by caniscandida</title>
			<link>http://www.grist.org/article/the-grill-of-victory/</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 16:52:30 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>&quot;summer cookout&quot;?</strong></p><p>Considering that we do these polls all the time, we really ought to learn to analyse them much better than we do.</p><p>
"Invitation to your summer cookout" implies:</p><p>


 you have a backyard;</p><p>
 you like to have guests, occasionally, perhaps to show off how much real estate you own;</p><p>
 you eat meat, you think eating meat is normal, you think your guests would enjoy an occasion to eat meat that you provide.</p><p>


Needless to say, not all Americans are in that position.</p><p>
Or rather: apparently there IS a need to say that. &nbsp;We Americans who are in no position either to host or to attend a "summer cookout" are apparently being marginalized.</p><p>
To say nothing of those of us who do not eat meat, nor would serve it.</p><p>
As for McCain vs. Obama: From what I have seen, which is plenty, I do not like either of those men, personally, and would not invite them to any sort of get-together at any level in this home. &nbsp;And in fairness, au contraire, they both of them indicate that they would be in excruciating pain to be locked into a social event at a household such as mine. &nbsp;So, WTF.

<p>Chickens deserve our true friendship!  So do fish!  So do other sentient beings!  Let us learn to be kind.</p></p>
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				<p><strong>&quot;summer cookout&quot;?</strong></p><p>Considering that we do these polls all the time, we really ought to learn to analyse them much better than we do.</p><p>
"Invitation to your summer cookout" implies:</p><p>


 you have a backyard;</p><p>
 you like to have guests, occasionally, perhaps to show off how much real estate you own;</p><p>
 you eat meat, you think eating meat is normal, you think your guests would enjoy an occasion to eat meat that you provide.</p><p>


Needless to say, not all Americans are in that position.</p><p>
Or rather: apparently there IS a need to say that. &nbsp;We Americans who are in no position either to host or to attend a "summer cookout" are apparently being marginalized.</p><p>
To say nothing of those of us who do not eat meat, nor would serve it.</p><p>
As for McCain vs. Obama: From what I have seen, which is plenty, I do not like either of those men, personally, and would not invite them to any sort of get-together at any level in this home. &nbsp;And in fairness, au contraire, they both of them indicate that they would be in excruciating pain to be locked into a social event at a household such as mine. &nbsp;So, WTF.

<p>Chickens deserve our true friendship!  So do fish!  So do other sentient beings!  Let us learn to be kind.</p></p>
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            <title>Comment #3 by amazingdrx</title>
			<link>http://www.grist.org/article/the-grill-of-victory/</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 17:13:46 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Finally!</strong></p><p>We got the guy they wanna have a beer with. &nbsp;And a tofu burger Canis? &nbsp;</p><p>
Well I bet Obama would like some nice bean taco pie. &nbsp;Remember when they wanted to have a beer with bush? 

<p>http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog     John Schneider, Northern Wisconsin</p></p>
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				<p><strong>Finally!</strong></p><p>We got the guy they wanna have a beer with. &nbsp;And a tofu burger Canis? &nbsp;</p><p>
Well I bet Obama would like some nice bean taco pie. &nbsp;Remember when they wanted to have a beer with bush? 

<p>http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog     John Schneider, Northern Wisconsin</p></p>
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            <title>Comment #4 by caniscandida</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 19:30:42 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>No problem, Amazing.</strong></p><p>If Michael and I were having Barack and Michelle over for dinner, it would be lovely, and supremely American, to ask in advance, whisperingly, "What don't you eat?; what doesn't he eat?; we can make something for the girls, but what do they eat?; they can play for a bit with Little Dog, before we put them to bed ... "</p><p>
And Americans who do not understand that sort of etiquette should be denied the vote. &nbsp;: ( 

<p>Chickens deserve our true friendship!  So do fish!  So do other sentient beings!  Let us learn to be kind.</p></p>
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				<p><strong>No problem, Amazing.</strong></p><p>If Michael and I were having Barack and Michelle over for dinner, it would be lovely, and supremely American, to ask in advance, whisperingly, "What don't you eat?; what doesn't he eat?; we can make something for the girls, but what do they eat?; they can play for a bit with Little Dog, before we put them to bed ... "</p><p>
And Americans who do not understand that sort of etiquette should be denied the vote. &nbsp;: ( 

<p>Chickens deserve our true friendship!  So do fish!  So do other sentient beings!  Let us learn to be kind.</p></p>
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