<![CDATA[Grist - Comment Feed for If Gore’s endorsement could make the difference, will he give it?]]> Grist Comment Feed en Comment #1 by Smaug http://www.grist.org/article/the-engoresment-reconsidered/ Mon, 28 Jan 2008 04:41:51 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/the-engoresment-reconsidered/1 Welcome to middle age, Dave

"An historic"?  This is not the kind of usage we expect from our edgy left-coast hipster eco-journalists.  See http://grammartips.homestead.com/historical.html : To many  Americans, an historical reference probably sounds pretentious and unlikely.  But to many of us who are middle-aged or older, that phrase sounds better (and is easier to pronounce) than a historical reference.
Good post, though!


]]> Welcome to middle age, Dave

"An historic"?  This is not the kind of usage we expect from our edgy left-coast hipster eco-journalists.  See http://grammartips.homestead.com/historical.html : To many  Americans, an historical reference probably sounds pretentious and unlikely.  But to many of us who are middle-aged or older, that phrase sounds better (and is easier to pronounce) than a historical reference.
Good post, though!


]]> Comment #2 by David Roberts http://www.grist.org/article/the-engoresment-reconsidered/ Mon, 28 Jan 2008 04:46:39 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/the-engoresment-reconsidered/2 Middle-aged is the new young!

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]]> Comment #3 by bookerly http://www.grist.org/article/the-engoresment-reconsidered/ Mon, 28 Jan 2008 07:22:38 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/the-engoresment-reconsidered/3 Imagination

     It is certainly delightful to see people so enthusiastic over any presidential candidate.  And certainly Obama is better than McCain or any Republican (and so is Clinton).

     But, realistically, no newly elected President is going to turn over large chunks of power to anybody else without restraints (Bush Cheney being the exception).

     The problems the big two have on environmental issues have been noted, and the pressure on them to move to the right will increase not lessen after the election.

     But we have a year to dream...

patrick in Beijing

     

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     It is certainly delightful to see people so enthusiastic over any presidential candidate.  And certainly Obama is better than McCain or any Republican (and so is Clinton).

     But, realistically, no newly elected President is going to turn over large chunks of power to anybody else without restraints (Bush Cheney being the exception).

     The problems the big two have on environmental issues have been noted, and the pressure on them to move to the right will increase not lessen after the election.

     But we have a year to dream...

patrick in Beijing

     

]]> Comment #4 by caniscandida http://www.grist.org/article/the-engoresment-reconsidered/ Mon, 28 Jan 2008 21:04:16 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/the-engoresment-reconsidered/4 "edginess"

Nice article by Tina Blue, Smaug.  I for one, being of a certain age, have no problem with "an historian" but "a history teacher."

As a fan of J.R.R. Tolkien, though, you might have been expected to relish a pretty archaism now and again.

Also, it is precisely because DR is a leading exponent of the edgyosphere that he can most easily get away with a playful affectation of antique style.

Chickens are our cousins! So are fish! So are other sentient animals! Let us learn to be kind.

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Nice article by Tina Blue, Smaug.  I for one, being of a certain age, have no problem with "an historian" but "a history teacher."

As a fan of J.R.R. Tolkien, though, you might have been expected to relish a pretty archaism now and again.

Also, it is precisely because DR is a leading exponent of the edgyosphere that he can most easily get away with a playful affectation of antique style.

Chickens are our cousins! So are fish! So are other sentient animals! Let us learn to be kind.

]]> Comment #5 by KathyF http://www.grist.org/article/the-engoresment-reconsidered/ Tue, 29 Jan 2008 00:16:50 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/the-engoresment-reconsidered/5 Again, with feeling

Once again I'm logging in to say, Gore's endorsement of Dean was NOT botched! I was there. I had to answer the phone calls that were ringing off the wall after that endorsement, deal with the people who walked in off the streets to see who this Howard Dean was that Al Gore endorsed. We got a huge bounce in the polls after that endorsement.

It also served to put the other candidates on notice, and in addition, the Club for Growth, who all ran anti-Dean ads in Iowa. (Remember that "Howard Dean supporters are Volvo-driving liberals?)

It was the fallout of the negative advertising that killed Dean, not the endorsement.

That said, I don't think a Gore endorsement would be nearly as valuable as Grist readers imagine. The Kennedy endorsement was pretty much as big as they come, unless someone has a direct line to JFK. It may, however, make just enough difference to matter in California, which is probably going to be very, very close.

So I hope he does endorse.

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Once again I'm logging in to say, Gore's endorsement of Dean was NOT botched! I was there. I had to answer the phone calls that were ringing off the wall after that endorsement, deal with the people who walked in off the streets to see who this Howard Dean was that Al Gore endorsed. We got a huge bounce in the polls after that endorsement.

It also served to put the other candidates on notice, and in addition, the Club for Growth, who all ran anti-Dean ads in Iowa. (Remember that "Howard Dean supporters are Volvo-driving liberals?)

It was the fallout of the negative advertising that killed Dean, not the endorsement.

That said, I don't think a Gore endorsement would be nearly as valuable as Grist readers imagine. The Kennedy endorsement was pretty much as big as they come, unless someone has a direct line to JFK. It may, however, make just enough difference to matter in California, which is probably going to be very, very close.

So I hope he does endorse.

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