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            <title>Comment #1 by Bart Anderson</title>
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				<p><strong>Hoping for something more up-to-date<p>If I had run across this book ten years ago, I think I would have thought it forward-looking, but now it sounds like the same old stuff. <p>
My reaction is based on the quotes and the reviews at <a href="http://astore.amazon.com/gristmagazine/detail/0071489061/102-1183543-3665742" rel="nofollow">reviews at the Grist/Amazon store<p>
Problems:<p>


The worldwide energy crisis is interpreted as "how to enable Americans to keep driving their cars." &nbsp;It's a much bigger problem than that.<p>
No mention of peak oil. How can one make intelligent recommendations if one has not investigated this issue? The GAO, National Petroleum Council and International Energy Agency are all expressing worries about the supply of oil. &nbsp;Bill Clinton and Al Gore both have mentioned peak oil. <p> Former CIA director, Secretary of Defense and Secretary of Energy, James Schlesinger announced "the battle is over, the peakists have won." In an <a href="http://contreinfo.info/article.php3?id_article=1254" rel="nofollow">interview, Schlesinger said that many oil companies recognize the reality of peak oil, even though they aren't saying so publicly. <p> Even if one is skeptical about peak oil, one cannot ignore it as this book does.<p>
Apparently biofuels are a major part of Sandalow's proposal. Increasingly the argument is turning against biofuels - corn ethanol is braindead, the food vs fuel conflict is reality, and continual biofuel cropping is not sustainable. Perhaps David Sandalow should be reading Gristmill more regularly!<p>


I wish I could be more enthusiastic, because as the reviews said, there are many good things about the book. 

<p>Bart<br>
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				<p><strong>Hoping for something more up-to-date<p>If I had run across this book ten years ago, I think I would have thought it forward-looking, but now it sounds like the same old stuff. <p>
My reaction is based on the quotes and the reviews at <a href="http://astore.amazon.com/gristmagazine/detail/0071489061/102-1183543-3665742" rel="nofollow">reviews at the Grist/Amazon store<p>
Problems:<p>


The worldwide energy crisis is interpreted as "how to enable Americans to keep driving their cars." &nbsp;It's a much bigger problem than that.<p>
No mention of peak oil. How can one make intelligent recommendations if one has not investigated this issue? The GAO, National Petroleum Council and International Energy Agency are all expressing worries about the supply of oil. &nbsp;Bill Clinton and Al Gore both have mentioned peak oil. <p> Former CIA director, Secretary of Defense and Secretary of Energy, James Schlesinger announced "the battle is over, the peakists have won." In an <a href="http://contreinfo.info/article.php3?id_article=1254" rel="nofollow">interview, Schlesinger said that many oil companies recognize the reality of peak oil, even though they aren't saying so publicly. <p> Even if one is skeptical about peak oil, one cannot ignore it as this book does.<p>
Apparently biofuels are a major part of Sandalow's proposal. Increasingly the argument is turning against biofuels - corn ethanol is braindead, the food vs fuel conflict is reality, and continual biofuel cropping is not sustainable. Perhaps David Sandalow should be reading Gristmill more regularly!<p>


I wish I could be more enthusiastic, because as the reviews said, there are many good things about the book. 

<p>Bart<br>
<a href="http://energybulletin.net" rel="nofollow">Energy Bulletin</a></br></p></p></p></p></a></p></p></p></p></a></p></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #2 by Ron Steenblik</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2007 21:33:46 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Well put, Bart</strong></p><p>Bart sums up the problem of this kind of thinking succinctly: the USA and the world is not going to solve its oil, broader energy, or climate change problems by subsidizing vehicles or the fuels they use.</p>
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				<p><strong>Well put, Bart</strong></p><p>Bart sums up the problem of this kind of thinking succinctly: the USA and the world is not going to solve its oil, broader energy, or climate change problems by subsidizing vehicles or the fuels they use.</p>
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            <title>Comment #3 by kn99</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 21 Oct 2007 10:41:26 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>If you care about oil, do read the book<p>I think you'll find it worthwhile to read the book. &nbsp;As I understand Sandalow's plan, the outcome is that, in 10 years or less, the average new car sold in America will be a flex-fuel PHEV. &nbsp;It will travel 6 or 7 out of every 10 miles on electricity, about 2 on biofuel and 1 or 2 on oil. &nbsp;As old vehicles are replaced by new ones, by my reckoning, America would use something like 75% less oil than it does today. &nbsp;<p>
Biofuels are relatively small part of the plan. Their supply would gradually expand to about 4 or 5 times more than today. &nbsp;At this level, the environmental effects remain positive (ie, reducing CO2 emissions), while creating an alternative fuel supply chain.<p>
Subsidies are applied in the short term and phased out as the vehicle market develops. With Europe and most of Asia even more vulnerable to oil shocks, it's unlikely they would not follow suit and remove their reliance on oil as well.<p>
While Sandalow's plan includes some programs for improving public transit and altering growth patterns, their benefits would be additional to the above reductions. <p>
The premise of the book is the need to substitute other energy sources for oil, and the plan cuts use by three-quarters or more. &nbsp;I guess I don't understand the objection concerning 'peak oil'. &nbsp;The environmental and geopolitical reasons to cut oil use are pressing regardless of its supply; arguments concerning peak oil simply pile on more reasons for the premise.<p>
BTW, there's a new video interview of Sandalow at <a href="http://www.eande.tv/video_guide/680" rel="nofollow">http://www.eande.tv/video_guide/680</a></p></p></p></p></p></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>If you care about oil, do read the book<p>I think you'll find it worthwhile to read the book. &nbsp;As I understand Sandalow's plan, the outcome is that, in 10 years or less, the average new car sold in America will be a flex-fuel PHEV. &nbsp;It will travel 6 or 7 out of every 10 miles on electricity, about 2 on biofuel and 1 or 2 on oil. &nbsp;As old vehicles are replaced by new ones, by my reckoning, America would use something like 75% less oil than it does today. &nbsp;<p>
Biofuels are relatively small part of the plan. Their supply would gradually expand to about 4 or 5 times more than today. &nbsp;At this level, the environmental effects remain positive (ie, reducing CO2 emissions), while creating an alternative fuel supply chain.<p>
Subsidies are applied in the short term and phased out as the vehicle market develops. With Europe and most of Asia even more vulnerable to oil shocks, it's unlikely they would not follow suit and remove their reliance on oil as well.<p>
While Sandalow's plan includes some programs for improving public transit and altering growth patterns, their benefits would be additional to the above reductions. <p>
The premise of the book is the need to substitute other energy sources for oil, and the plan cuts use by three-quarters or more. &nbsp;I guess I don't understand the objection concerning 'peak oil'. &nbsp;The environmental and geopolitical reasons to cut oil use are pressing regardless of its supply; arguments concerning peak oil simply pile on more reasons for the premise.<p>
BTW, there's a new video interview of Sandalow at <a href="http://www.eande.tv/video_guide/680" rel="nofollow">http://www.eande.tv/video_guide/680</a></p></p></p></p></p></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #4 by Bart Anderson</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 21 Oct 2007 13:35:54 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Why peak oil matters<p>Thanks for the background on the book, kn99.<p>
The reason that peak oil is important is that it will affect supply and prices significantly. If one proffers an analysis of the oil problem, one cannot ignore this elephant in the living room. <p>
In particular, it means that personal vehicles for most of the population are probably not sustainable. Our resources would be better spent on more important things -- like low-energy infrastructure and making sure that sufficient food can be produced.<p>
It's not that efficient hybrid cars the other proposals are bad ideas in themselves. It's that they are an incomplete solution to an incompletely analyzed problem.<p>
BTW, This <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/oil/story/0,,2196435,00.html" rel="nofollow">this article on peak oil just appeared in the UK Guardian - we may be nearer than people think. The German-based Energy Watch Group will release its study in London today saying that global oil production peaked in 2006 - much earlier than most experts had expected. The report, which predicts that production will now fall by 7% a year... [falling] by half as soon as 2030...<p>


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				<p><strong>Why peak oil matters<p>Thanks for the background on the book, kn99.<p>
The reason that peak oil is important is that it will affect supply and prices significantly. If one proffers an analysis of the oil problem, one cannot ignore this elephant in the living room. <p>
In particular, it means that personal vehicles for most of the population are probably not sustainable. Our resources would be better spent on more important things -- like low-energy infrastructure and making sure that sufficient food can be produced.<p>
It's not that efficient hybrid cars the other proposals are bad ideas in themselves. It's that they are an incomplete solution to an incompletely analyzed problem.<p>
BTW, This <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/oil/story/0,,2196435,00.html" rel="nofollow">this article on peak oil just appeared in the UK Guardian - we may be nearer than people think. The German-based Energy Watch Group will release its study in London today saying that global oil production peaked in 2006 - much earlier than most experts had expected. The report, which predicts that production will now fall by 7% a year... [falling] by half as soon as 2030...<p>


<p>Bart<br>
<a href="http://energybulletin.net" rel="nofollow">Energy Bulletin</a></br></p></p></a></p></p></p></p></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #5 by Ron Steenblik</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 21 Oct 2007 14:41:48 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Some big assumptions</strong></p><p>kn99 writes:</p><p>
Biofuels are relatively small part of the plan. Their supply would gradually expand to about 4 or 5 times more than today. At this level, the environmental effects remain positive (i.e., reducing CO2 emissions), while creating an alternative fuel supply chain.</p><p>
A four- or five-fold expansion in biofuels use would not be trivial. Already, at today's level of production, there have been huge impacts on the markets for grains and vegetable oils. Even if the biomass for biofuel feedstock were to be produced sustainably, the displacement effects of devoting that much land to biofuels could mean either much more-intensive production on the remaining land, in order to meet the pre-existing needs of food, fibre and feed (which undermines the GHG emission benefits), or an expansion of crop production into prairies or forests.</p><p>
Subsidies are applied in the short term and phased out as the vehicle market develops. With Europe and most of Asia even more vulnerable to oil shocks, it's unlikely they would not follow suit and remove their reliance on oil as well.</p><p>
If you are talking about the biofuels market, all the evidence is to the contrary. The industry has been subsidized for almost 30 years now, and legislation under consideration in the U.S. Congress would both extend the subsidies and boost them. So what would Sandalow's plan do differently?</p>
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				<p><strong>Some big assumptions</strong></p><p>kn99 writes:</p><p>
Biofuels are relatively small part of the plan. Their supply would gradually expand to about 4 or 5 times more than today. At this level, the environmental effects remain positive (i.e., reducing CO2 emissions), while creating an alternative fuel supply chain.</p><p>
A four- or five-fold expansion in biofuels use would not be trivial. Already, at today's level of production, there have been huge impacts on the markets for grains and vegetable oils. Even if the biomass for biofuel feedstock were to be produced sustainably, the displacement effects of devoting that much land to biofuels could mean either much more-intensive production on the remaining land, in order to meet the pre-existing needs of food, fibre and feed (which undermines the GHG emission benefits), or an expansion of crop production into prairies or forests.</p><p>
Subsidies are applied in the short term and phased out as the vehicle market develops. With Europe and most of Asia even more vulnerable to oil shocks, it's unlikely they would not follow suit and remove their reliance on oil as well.</p><p>
If you are talking about the biofuels market, all the evidence is to the contrary. The industry has been subsidized for almost 30 years now, and legislation under consideration in the U.S. Congress would both extend the subsidies and boost them. So what would Sandalow's plan do differently?</p>
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            <title>Comment #6 by kn99</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 02:42:50 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Biofuels, and peak oil</strong></p><p>Again, Sandalow's book is worth checking directly. &nbsp;The growth in biofuels is gradual over 20 years, with the early growth in domestic corn and imported cane ethanol, and 75% of the long-term production from agricultural residues (of which there are many adequate sources -- again, check the book). &nbsp;And that's without progress on algae, biobutanol, etc, all of which have promise over 10-20 years.</p><p>
About subsidies: &nbsp;If the peak oil theories are right, they are not a problem -- at oil over $50 per barrel, today's biofuels are profitable. &nbsp;The problem in the past has been that oil production never peaked, and prices were under $25 per barrel for decades.</p><p>
In any event, it's the shift to electric power that is critical. &nbsp;If oil prices go very high, even today's PHEVs are economic. &nbsp;With high enough prices, or shortages in biofuels, Sandalow's plan shifts more to electricity. &nbsp;The plan assumes only 40-mile batteries and overnight recharging. &nbsp;With higher oil prices, larger battery packs become economic, vehicles can recharge during the day, and they can have replaceable battery packs (similar to today's replaceable propane tanks). &nbsp;These are small disruptions at minimal risk, and the can push the reduction in oil use to 90%.</p><p>
Sandalow's book makes the point that his plan is already close to mainstream thinking. &nbsp;Even the Brookings Institution is promoting it, the book is endorsed across the political spectrum, and that's in response to today's ecological and geopolitical costs of oil (before the coming economic costs of peak oil.)</p>
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				<p><strong>Biofuels, and peak oil</strong></p><p>Again, Sandalow's book is worth checking directly. &nbsp;The growth in biofuels is gradual over 20 years, with the early growth in domestic corn and imported cane ethanol, and 75% of the long-term production from agricultural residues (of which there are many adequate sources -- again, check the book). &nbsp;And that's without progress on algae, biobutanol, etc, all of which have promise over 10-20 years.</p><p>
About subsidies: &nbsp;If the peak oil theories are right, they are not a problem -- at oil over $50 per barrel, today's biofuels are profitable. &nbsp;The problem in the past has been that oil production never peaked, and prices were under $25 per barrel for decades.</p><p>
In any event, it's the shift to electric power that is critical. &nbsp;If oil prices go very high, even today's PHEVs are economic. &nbsp;With high enough prices, or shortages in biofuels, Sandalow's plan shifts more to electricity. &nbsp;The plan assumes only 40-mile batteries and overnight recharging. &nbsp;With higher oil prices, larger battery packs become economic, vehicles can recharge during the day, and they can have replaceable battery packs (similar to today's replaceable propane tanks). &nbsp;These are small disruptions at minimal risk, and the can push the reduction in oil use to 90%.</p><p>
Sandalow's book makes the point that his plan is already close to mainstream thinking. &nbsp;Even the Brookings Institution is promoting it, the book is endorsed across the political spectrum, and that's in response to today's ecological and geopolitical costs of oil (before the coming economic costs of peak oil.)</p>
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            <title>Comment #7 by GreyFlcn</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 03:07:24 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>From where?<p>=75% of the long-term production from agricultural residues=<p>
What a load of bullshit.<br>
Where exactly do these "agricultural residues" come from? &nbsp;What is an "agricultural residue"?<br>
<a href="http://greyfalcon.net/peaksoil" rel="nofollow">http://greyfalcon.net/peaksoil<p>
Even the USDA isn't that optimistic, since they plan on a max of 1.3 billion tons of biomass. &nbsp;ASSUMING a gigantic laundry list of impossible scenarios.<p>
For instance, "all crops will magically increase 50% of their currently yeild." &nbsp;Even though yields are currently declining.<p>
<a href="http://venturebeat.com/2006/11/05/why-cellulosic-ethanol-will-not-save-us/" rel="nofollow">http://venturebeat.com/2006/11/05/why-cellulosic-ethanol- ...</a></p></p></p></a></br></br></p></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>From where?<p>=75% of the long-term production from agricultural residues=<p>
What a load of bullshit.<br>
Where exactly do these "agricultural residues" come from? &nbsp;What is an "agricultural residue"?<br>
<a href="http://greyfalcon.net/peaksoil" rel="nofollow">http://greyfalcon.net/peaksoil<p>
Even the USDA isn't that optimistic, since they plan on a max of 1.3 billion tons of biomass. &nbsp;ASSUMING a gigantic laundry list of impossible scenarios.<p>
For instance, "all crops will magically increase 50% of their currently yeild." &nbsp;Even though yields are currently declining.<p>
<a href="http://venturebeat.com/2006/11/05/why-cellulosic-ethanol-will-not-save-us/" rel="nofollow">http://venturebeat.com/2006/11/05/why-cellulosic-ethanol- ...</a></p></p></p></a></br></br></p></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #8 by GreyFlcn</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 03:17:01 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>What positive benefits?<p>=At this level, the environmental effects remain positive (ie, reducing CO2 emissions), while creating an alternative fuel supply chain.=<p>
At the current level, there is no positive benefit to biofuels.<p>
Just gigantic downsides.<p>
<a href="http://greyfalcon.net/palmoil" rel="nofollow">http://greyfalcon.net/palmoil<br>
<a href="http://greyfalcon.net/soy" rel="nofollow">http://greyfalcon.net/soy<br>
<a href="http://greyfalcon.net/ran" rel="nofollow">http://greyfalcon.net/ran<br>
<a href="http://greyfalcon.net/n2ostudy.png" rel="nofollow">http://greyfalcon.net/n2ostudy.png<br>
<a href="http://greyfalcon.net/n2ostudy" rel="nofollow">http://greyfalcon.net/n2ostudy<br>
<a href="http://greyfalcon.net/lcarough7.png" rel="nofollow">http://greyfalcon.net/lcarough7.png<p>
_<p>
Then again, the DOE/USDA love to gloss over the titanic flaws by willing them out of existence.<p>
For instance, In the view of the DOE/USDA, nitrogen fixation does not exist.<p>
Poof! Gone. &nbsp;<p>
Why? &nbsp;Because N2O is nearly 300x more potent than CO2.<br>
<a href="http://greyfalcon.net/n2o.png" rel="nofollow">http://greyfalcon.net/n2o.png</a></br></p></p></p></p></p></a></br></a></br></a></br></a></br></a></br></a></p></p></p></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>What positive benefits?<p>=At this level, the environmental effects remain positive (ie, reducing CO2 emissions), while creating an alternative fuel supply chain.=<p>
At the current level, there is no positive benefit to biofuels.<p>
Just gigantic downsides.<p>
<a href="http://greyfalcon.net/palmoil" rel="nofollow">http://greyfalcon.net/palmoil<br>
<a href="http://greyfalcon.net/soy" rel="nofollow">http://greyfalcon.net/soy<br>
<a href="http://greyfalcon.net/ran" rel="nofollow">http://greyfalcon.net/ran<br>
<a href="http://greyfalcon.net/n2ostudy.png" rel="nofollow">http://greyfalcon.net/n2ostudy.png<br>
<a href="http://greyfalcon.net/n2ostudy" rel="nofollow">http://greyfalcon.net/n2ostudy<br>
<a href="http://greyfalcon.net/lcarough7.png" rel="nofollow">http://greyfalcon.net/lcarough7.png<p>
_<p>
Then again, the DOE/USDA love to gloss over the titanic flaws by willing them out of existence.<p>
For instance, In the view of the DOE/USDA, nitrogen fixation does not exist.<p>
Poof! Gone. &nbsp;<p>
Why? &nbsp;Because N2O is nearly 300x more potent than CO2.<br>
<a href="http://greyfalcon.net/n2o.png" rel="nofollow">http://greyfalcon.net/n2o.png</a></br></p></p></p></p></p></a></br></a></br></a></br></a></br></a></br></a></p></p></p></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #9 by trock</title>
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				<p><strong>political opposition?</strong></p><p>does the book go into how to get all the political opposition locked in jail for this stuff to pass?</p>
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				<p><strong>political opposition?</strong></p><p>does the book go into how to get all the political opposition locked in jail for this stuff to pass?</p>
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            <title>Comment #10 by Burl Haigwood</title>
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				<p><strong>Freedom From Oil...and Food Vs. Fuel mantra<p>Thanks for the recommendation, it was a fun and informative read. The Energy Independence and Security Act of 2007 officially put the lid on this food vs. fuel concern. &nbsp;Corn is the bridge technology to cellulosic ethanol; one would not and will not exist without the other. Some suggested reading.<p>
<a href="http://blog.cleanfuelsdc.org/2008/01/corn-vs-cellulo.html" rel="nofollow">http://blog.cleanfuelsdc.org/2008/01/corn-vs-cellulo.html ...<p>
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				<p><strong>Freedom From Oil...and Food Vs. Fuel mantra<p>Thanks for the recommendation, it was a fun and informative read. The Energy Independence and Security Act of 2007 officially put the lid on this food vs. fuel concern. &nbsp;Corn is the bridge technology to cellulosic ethanol; one would not and will not exist without the other. Some suggested reading.<p>
<a href="http://blog.cleanfuelsdc.org/2008/01/corn-vs-cellulo.html" rel="nofollow">http://blog.cleanfuelsdc.org/2008/01/corn-vs-cellulo.html ...<p>
BurlHaigwoodCFDC<br>
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            <title>Comment #11 by amazingdrx</title>
			<link>http://www.grist.org/article/the-book-to-read-on-freedom-from-oil/</link>
			<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2008 03:06:34 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>30 million plugin hybrids</strong></p><p>A series of orders guaranteed over ten years would be better. &nbsp;Say 30 million? &nbsp;But 30,000 is a start.</p><p>
If the design was rear wheel plugin electric drive, with a standard economy car front wheel drive internal combustion engine, retooling would be minimal.</p><p>
Each car company could produce models to fullfill contracts, conversions of present models. &nbsp;It's a real shortcut to renewable electric transportation and distributed power storage.

<p>http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog</p></p>
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				<p><strong>30 million plugin hybrids</strong></p><p>A series of orders guaranteed over ten years would be better. &nbsp;Say 30 million? &nbsp;But 30,000 is a start.</p><p>
If the design was rear wheel plugin electric drive, with a standard economy car front wheel drive internal combustion engine, retooling would be minimal.</p><p>
Each car company could produce models to fullfill contracts, conversions of present models. &nbsp;It's a real shortcut to renewable electric transportation and distributed power storage.

<p>http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog</p></p>
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