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            <title>Comment #1 by PolluteLessDotCom</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 07:02:49 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Another dumb dinosaur.<p>Now with an engine (actually two + toxic waste batteries) that reduces a terrible gas mileage to just bad. Well, it is good for sales. It will encourage people who do not want to stop driving this sort of vehicle to continue driving it while feeling good and telling all their friends how oh-so-good they are for the environment. And it is good for the economy. "Greenwashing" at work.<p>
This is a marketing solution to a sales problem, not a technical solution to a pollution problem. Unfortunately it works because people rather twist their minds than change their habits.<p>
Still nauseous.<p>
Karsten<br>
<a href="http://www.polluteless.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.polluteless.com</a></br></p></p></p></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>Another dumb dinosaur.<p>Now with an engine (actually two + toxic waste batteries) that reduces a terrible gas mileage to just bad. Well, it is good for sales. It will encourage people who do not want to stop driving this sort of vehicle to continue driving it while feeling good and telling all their friends how oh-so-good they are for the environment. And it is good for the economy. "Greenwashing" at work.<p>
This is a marketing solution to a sales problem, not a technical solution to a pollution problem. Unfortunately it works because people rather twist their minds than change their habits.<p>
Still nauseous.<p>
Karsten<br>
<a href="http://www.polluteless.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.polluteless.com</a></br></p></p></p></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #2 by CyberBrook</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 07:49:33 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Green Diet of the Year<p><b><br>
Since food is more important in terms of gobal warming than transportation (see <a href="http://www.ivu.org/members/globalwarming.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.ivu.org/members/globalwarming.html), a green car is one thing, but a green diet is even better (why not do both?!).<p>
And now, for the Green Diet of the Year: <br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Organic Vegan! <br>
(applause, applause, apple sauce)<p>
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				<p><strong>Green Diet of the Year<p><b><br>
Since food is more important in terms of gobal warming than transportation (see <a href="http://www.ivu.org/members/globalwarming.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.ivu.org/members/globalwarming.html), a green car is one thing, but a green diet is even better (why not do both?!).<p>
And now, for the Green Diet of the Year: <br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Organic Vegan! <br>
(applause, applause, apple sauce)<p>
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            <title>Comment #3 by Greta</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 08:31:47 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Self-adulation?<p>Does Chevy own the Green Car Journal? &nbsp;(Remind me never to waste my money on the publication.)<p>
Reminds me of an award that Royal Caribbean Cruise Lines keeps winning, and promoting, for best green cruise line. &nbsp;It is awarded by...drumroll...Royal Caribbean Cruise Lines. &nbsp;You know, the one with the history of:<p>
"Royal Caribbean To Pay Record $18 Million Criminal Fine For Dumping Oil And Hazardous Chemicals, Making False Statements; Cruise Line Faces 21 Felony Counts in 6 Different U.S. Courts"<p>
<a href="http://yosemite.epa.gov/opa/admpress.nsf/e987e762f557727d852570bc0042cc90/ef8f36c68c51183585257248006fab6e!OpenDocument" rel="nofollow">http://yosemite.epa.gov/opa/admpress.nsf/e987e762f557727d ...<p>
[see EPA.gov]</p></a></p></p></p></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>Self-adulation?<p>Does Chevy own the Green Car Journal? &nbsp;(Remind me never to waste my money on the publication.)<p>
Reminds me of an award that Royal Caribbean Cruise Lines keeps winning, and promoting, for best green cruise line. &nbsp;It is awarded by...drumroll...Royal Caribbean Cruise Lines. &nbsp;You know, the one with the history of:<p>
"Royal Caribbean To Pay Record $18 Million Criminal Fine For Dumping Oil And Hazardous Chemicals, Making False Statements; Cruise Line Faces 21 Felony Counts in 6 Different U.S. Courts"<p>
<a href="http://yosemite.epa.gov/opa/admpress.nsf/e987e762f557727d852570bc0042cc90/ef8f36c68c51183585257248006fab6e!OpenDocument" rel="nofollow">http://yosemite.epa.gov/opa/admpress.nsf/e987e762f557727d ...<p>
[see EPA.gov]</p></a></p></p></p></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #4 by prospect77</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 00:50:30 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>what a bunch of crap</strong></p><p>There's nothing wrong with the Tahoe that a good plant closure and mass layoffs won't fix.</p>
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				<p><strong>what a bunch of crap</strong></p><p>There's nothing wrong with the Tahoe that a good plant closure and mass layoffs won't fix.</p>
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            <title>Comment #5 by paulg</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 22:54:41 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>chew on this bone</strong></p><p>Ok listen,<br>
I drive a honda. &nbsp;But if I had a decent sized fambly or wanted the most fuel efficient small school bus...GM engineers have done a great job.</p><p>
Consider that you want to move eight people. &nbsp;You could buy this 21mpg Tahoe or TWO 40 mpg prius's. &nbsp;You would burn about the same amount of fuel. &nbsp;The difference is that you would also get two cars, eight sets of tires..etc. double all the polution it takes to make two vehicles, versus one. &nbsp;</p><p>
I'd expect the readers of Grist to have a hard time understanding the importance of this, since, if you actually need a vehicle to haul that many people you don't have time to read it!</br></p>
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				<p><strong>chew on this bone</strong></p><p>Ok listen,<br>
I drive a honda. &nbsp;But if I had a decent sized fambly or wanted the most fuel efficient small school bus...GM engineers have done a great job.</p><p>
Consider that you want to move eight people. &nbsp;You could buy this 21mpg Tahoe or TWO 40 mpg prius's. &nbsp;You would burn about the same amount of fuel. &nbsp;The difference is that you would also get two cars, eight sets of tires..etc. double all the polution it takes to make two vehicles, versus one. &nbsp;</p><p>
I'd expect the readers of Grist to have a hard time understanding the importance of this, since, if you actually need a vehicle to haul that many people you don't have time to read it!</br></p>
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