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            <title>Comment #1 by wiscidea</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 09:04:58 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>interest groups<p>One might also look at ratings from interest groups.<p>
Obama receives a higher rating from the American Farm Bureau Federation (35 vs. 29), the National Farmer's Union (100 vs. 83), the National Association of Wheat Growers (50 vs. 25), and the &nbsp;National Council of Agricultural Employers (100 vs. 80).<p>
Does this mean anything? Tom, can you shine some light on these numbers? Thanks.<p>
Info from...<p>
<a href="http://votesmart.org/issue_rating_category.php?can_id=9490" rel="nofollow">http://votesmart.org/issue_rating_category.php?can_id=949 ...<p>
and...<p>
<a href="http://votesmart.org/issue_rating_category.php?can_id=55463" rel="nofollow">http://votesmart.org/issue_rating_category.php?can_id=554 ...</a></p></p></a></p></p></p></p></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>interest groups<p>One might also look at ratings from interest groups.<p>
Obama receives a higher rating from the American Farm Bureau Federation (35 vs. 29), the National Farmer's Union (100 vs. 83), the National Association of Wheat Growers (50 vs. 25), and the &nbsp;National Council of Agricultural Employers (100 vs. 80).<p>
Does this mean anything? Tom, can you shine some light on these numbers? Thanks.<p>
Info from...<p>
<a href="http://votesmart.org/issue_rating_category.php?can_id=9490" rel="nofollow">http://votesmart.org/issue_rating_category.php?can_id=949 ...<p>
and...<p>
<a href="http://votesmart.org/issue_rating_category.php?can_id=55463" rel="nofollow">http://votesmart.org/issue_rating_category.php?can_id=554 ...</a></p></p></a></p></p></p></p></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #2 by markos</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 19:51:14 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Being comfortable</strong></p><p>Or, as an alternative explanation, they just found Clinton more influential and likely candidate.</p>
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				<p><strong>Being comfortable</strong></p><p>Or, as an alternative explanation, they just found Clinton more influential and likely candidate.</p>
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            <title>Comment #3 by dkpant</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 23:05:39 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Disservice</strong></p><p>It is a disservice to the readership to limit this discussion to only two candidates after only two primaries/caucuses.</p>
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				<p><strong>Disservice</strong></p><p>It is a disservice to the readership to limit this discussion to only two candidates after only two primaries/caucuses.</p>
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            <title>Comment #4 by wiscidea</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 01:25:28 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>two candidate after THREE primaries/caucuses</strong></p><p>I somewhat agree with with dkpant.</p><p>
However, I think it is then up to those visiting this and other blogs to bring the other candidate to our attention and indicate why we should be interested in them, how their positions favor the environment, and suggest how we might deliver this information to voters in the remaining state.</p><p>
Those who simply criticize Grist for limiting the discussion to a few candidates but refuse to present a case or even mention the name of alternative candidates are ALSO doing a disservice to the readership.</p><p>
As I pointed out elswhere, votesmart.org has compiled a list of over 100 individuals running for President of the United States. There are links to voting records, financing, their speeches, surveys, et cetera. There is also information about state-level elections and I believe they are working on collecting information about local level elections.</p><p>
If you feel Grist is not doing a good job, go to votesmart.org, study other candidates, and tell us why the media should be shining a spotlight on them.</p><p>
I might be rough on you at times, especially Mr. Roberts, but I actually respect the Grist staff and appreciate their efforts. I'm pretty sure most of the contributors are not even paid. We are fortunate that professionals like Tom Philpott are willing to present their views, based on their own experience. They probably don't have time to cover over 100 candidates... and that's just the Presidential primary/caucus.</p><p>
Sorry if this message offends some people. If it helps... it probably applies to me as much as it applies to others. We should all try to be more informed -- on our own -- and get the message out to our fellow citizens in a calm and rational manner.</p><p>
Peace.</p>
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				<p><strong>two candidate after THREE primaries/caucuses</strong></p><p>I somewhat agree with with dkpant.</p><p>
However, I think it is then up to those visiting this and other blogs to bring the other candidate to our attention and indicate why we should be interested in them, how their positions favor the environment, and suggest how we might deliver this information to voters in the remaining state.</p><p>
Those who simply criticize Grist for limiting the discussion to a few candidates but refuse to present a case or even mention the name of alternative candidates are ALSO doing a disservice to the readership.</p><p>
As I pointed out elswhere, votesmart.org has compiled a list of over 100 individuals running for President of the United States. There are links to voting records, financing, their speeches, surveys, et cetera. There is also information about state-level elections and I believe they are working on collecting information about local level elections.</p><p>
If you feel Grist is not doing a good job, go to votesmart.org, study other candidates, and tell us why the media should be shining a spotlight on them.</p><p>
I might be rough on you at times, especially Mr. Roberts, but I actually respect the Grist staff and appreciate their efforts. I'm pretty sure most of the contributors are not even paid. We are fortunate that professionals like Tom Philpott are willing to present their views, based on their own experience. They probably don't have time to cover over 100 candidates... and that's just the Presidential primary/caucus.</p><p>
Sorry if this message offends some people. If it helps... it probably applies to me as much as it applies to others. We should all try to be more informed -- on our own -- and get the message out to our fellow citizens in a calm and rational manner.</p><p>
Peace.</p>
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            <title>Comment #5 by wiscidea</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 01:27:14 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>PS</strong></p><p>Sorry about all the typos. I realize "candidate" and "state" should be PLURAL! I'm sort of in a hurry. Probably made a bunch of other mistakes.</p>
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				<p><strong>PS</strong></p><p>Sorry about all the typos. I realize "candidate" and "state" should be PLURAL! I'm sort of in a hurry. Probably made a bunch of other mistakes.</p>
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            <title>Comment #6 by Sophie</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 10:11:07 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Could be a New York Thing</strong></p><p>It turns out that New York's biggest industry is agriculture. Yup. A bit hard to fathom, because farms are not the first thing one thinks of when one thinks of New York. I was, until very recently, a lifelong New Yorker and I took that particular piece of news pretty hard myself.</p><p>
So it is possible that large farms in NY gave money to both Hillary and Rudy simply because they are businesses in that state.</p>
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				<p><strong>Could be a New York Thing</strong></p><p>It turns out that New York's biggest industry is agriculture. Yup. A bit hard to fathom, because farms are not the first thing one thinks of when one thinks of New York. I was, until very recently, a lifelong New Yorker and I took that particular piece of news pretty hard myself.</p><p>
So it is possible that large farms in NY gave money to both Hillary and Rudy simply because they are businesses in that state.</p>
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            <title>Comment #7 by vr24</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 02:56:39 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Re disservice</strong></p><p>By only discussing Clinton and Obama, Grist is falling into the corporate media trap where it seems as though these are the only two that count. &nbsp;As Edwards stated in his remarks after the New Hampshire primary, 99% of the nation has not been heard yet. &nbsp;I understand that voters should inform themselves, but I find it discouraging when an alternative form of media starts to sound like the corporate folks. &nbsp;</p>
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				<p><strong>Re disservice</strong></p><p>By only discussing Clinton and Obama, Grist is falling into the corporate media trap where it seems as though these are the only two that count. &nbsp;As Edwards stated in his remarks after the New Hampshire primary, 99% of the nation has not been heard yet. &nbsp;I understand that voters should inform themselves, but I find it discouraging when an alternative form of media starts to sound like the corporate folks. &nbsp;</p>
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