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            <title>Comment #1 by lunadancer</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 02:59:45 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Another Great DEET-free Alternative!<p>I was sorry not to see Medicine Flower Bug Repellant on your list! &nbsp;The all-natural oil and mist are both created in Oregon using high-quality, organic and wildcrafted pure essential oils, and WOW does it smell good! &nbsp;I've been using it for over a decade now, and the bugs don't like it but the people sure do! &nbsp;<p>
Like ALL other natural bug repellants, for maximum effectiveness, reapply as needed. &nbsp;Reapplying doesn't really "bug" me though, since it smells so darn yummy. &nbsp;You can find it too, at <a href="http://medicineflower.com/inre.html" rel="nofollow">http://medicineflower.com/inre.html. &nbsp;<p>
Happy Buglessness! &nbsp;:-) </p></a></p></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>Another Great DEET-free Alternative!<p>I was sorry not to see Medicine Flower Bug Repellant on your list! &nbsp;The all-natural oil and mist are both created in Oregon using high-quality, organic and wildcrafted pure essential oils, and WOW does it smell good! &nbsp;I've been using it for over a decade now, and the bugs don't like it but the people sure do! &nbsp;<p>
Like ALL other natural bug repellants, for maximum effectiveness, reapply as needed. &nbsp;Reapplying doesn't really "bug" me though, since it smells so darn yummy. &nbsp;You can find it too, at <a href="http://medicineflower.com/inre.html" rel="nofollow">http://medicineflower.com/inre.html. &nbsp;<p>
Happy Buglessness! &nbsp;:-) </p></a></p></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #2 by Mugwomp</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 04:04:44 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>How about telling us how well they work...???</strong></p><p>I was psyched to see this article, but dismayed to read only about their scent and how oily they are. &nbsp;How well do they work, really?"All of the products performed fairly well when it came to keeping bugs away," doesn't cut it, and I've used a product very similar to the All Terrain formula and it doesn't work worth a darn, no matter how much I apply. &nbsp;Spray 'em on and put your arm in a plexiglas box of mosquitoes. &nbsp;Then get back to us. &nbsp;Seriously.</p>
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				<p><strong>How about telling us how well they work...???</strong></p><p>I was psyched to see this article, but dismayed to read only about their scent and how oily they are. &nbsp;How well do they work, really?"All of the products performed fairly well when it came to keeping bugs away," doesn't cut it, and I've used a product very similar to the All Terrain formula and it doesn't work worth a darn, no matter how much I apply. &nbsp;Spray 'em on and put your arm in a plexiglas box of mosquitoes. &nbsp;Then get back to us. &nbsp;Seriously.</p>
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            <title>Comment #3 by konklarii</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 04:59:04 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>And I still don't know which one is effective.</strong></p><p>Ditto to Mugwomp. &nbsp;I don't care if it smells like a decaying racoon if it keeps the blackflies away. &nbsp;This is a silly, fluffy review.</p>
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				<p><strong>And I still don't know which one is effective.</strong></p><p>Ditto to Mugwomp. &nbsp;I don't care if it smells like a decaying racoon if it keeps the blackflies away. &nbsp;This is a silly, fluffy review.</p>
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            <title>Comment #4 by John former Marine</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 05:17:15 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Efficacy...</strong></p><p>For those of you who are wondering how well these products work, you have good reason. &nbsp;</p><p>
EPA regulates insect repellants...all of them. &nbsp;Except for a small group that is exempt from regulation, the "25B" products. &nbsp;These products do not have to be registered, they don't have to submit efficacy data, and they can pretty much make whatever claims they want with nobody checking on them. &nbsp;It's a huge loophole in the law that allows a lot of bogus products onto the market.</p><p>
Yet another fluffy article from Grist...why am I not surprised.</p><p>
Look, eco-friendly products are great but a lot of them are total BS. &nbsp;You're better off eating a head of garlic every day.</p>
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				<p><strong>Efficacy...</strong></p><p>For those of you who are wondering how well these products work, you have good reason. &nbsp;</p><p>
EPA regulates insect repellants...all of them. &nbsp;Except for a small group that is exempt from regulation, the "25B" products. &nbsp;These products do not have to be registered, they don't have to submit efficacy data, and they can pretty much make whatever claims they want with nobody checking on them. &nbsp;It's a huge loophole in the law that allows a lot of bogus products onto the market.</p><p>
Yet another fluffy article from Grist...why am I not surprised.</p><p>
Look, eco-friendly products are great but a lot of them are total BS. &nbsp;You're better off eating a head of garlic every day.</p>
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            <title>Comment #5 by kateamon</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 06:53:46 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>must work - and not nauseate you!</strong></p><p>Yes, three requirements for bug repellents:<br>


MUST repel bugs!<br>
Shouldn't poison YOU (DEET free, etc)<br>
Smell shouldn't make you queasy<br>


Two proven insect repellents I like very much are California Baby and Badger. Both pleasant smelling AND effective! That's why (full disclosure here) I sell just those two bug repellents at Kate's Caring Gifts. Have recently used the California Baby Bug Repellent on a scout camping trip. Kept my kids and me bite free, while another kid I didn't get a chance to spray (pump top, NOT aerosol) had lots of itchy looking bites. Had nice comments about the scent too. (Though garlic smells good too ;)</br></br></br></br></p>
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				<p><strong>must work - and not nauseate you!</strong></p><p>Yes, three requirements for bug repellents:<br>


MUST repel bugs!<br>
Shouldn't poison YOU (DEET free, etc)<br>
Smell shouldn't make you queasy<br>


Two proven insect repellents I like very much are California Baby and Badger. Both pleasant smelling AND effective! That's why (full disclosure here) I sell just those two bug repellents at Kate's Caring Gifts. Have recently used the California Baby Bug Repellent on a scout camping trip. Kept my kids and me bite free, while another kid I didn't get a chance to spray (pump top, NOT aerosol) had lots of itchy looking bites. Had nice comments about the scent too. (Though garlic smells good too ;)</br></br></br></br></p>
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            <title>Comment #6 by paz</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 12:38:01 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>My daughter won't tolerate a decaying raccoon ...</strong></p><p>... so scent is VERY important to me. &nbsp;Which is why we usually just make do with long sleeves, hats, and sticking close to the campfire, if there is one. Scent and efficacy are tantamount in our book.</p>
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				<p><strong>My daughter won't tolerate a decaying raccoon ...</strong></p><p>... so scent is VERY important to me. &nbsp;Which is why we usually just make do with long sleeves, hats, and sticking close to the campfire, if there is one. Scent and efficacy are tantamount in our book.</p>
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            <title>Comment #7 by amnoelle</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 05:16:05 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>I agree</strong></p><p>I have to agree with my fellow readers. &nbsp;When doing a review on the performance of bug repellents the performance should probably be reviewed. &nbsp;I'm just saying...I do think that scent and oiliness are useful. &nbsp;I mean, if I can get a repellent that's natural, doesn't smell like crap, is oil-free, and actually works, I'm down!! &nbsp;Just don't bog us down with the fluffy details. </p><p>
Oh, and I have used the repel lemongrass repellent. &nbsp;It does have a pretty strong odor and is a little oily (but not bad in my opinion). &nbsp;It also seems to work pretty well. &nbsp;I've stayed bite free. &nbsp;However, I think that I might try one of the others suggested &nbsp;in the other comments the next time around. &nbsp;Thanks for the suggestions!!</p>
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				<p><strong>I agree</strong></p><p>I have to agree with my fellow readers. &nbsp;When doing a review on the performance of bug repellents the performance should probably be reviewed. &nbsp;I'm just saying...I do think that scent and oiliness are useful. &nbsp;I mean, if I can get a repellent that's natural, doesn't smell like crap, is oil-free, and actually works, I'm down!! &nbsp;Just don't bog us down with the fluffy details. </p><p>
Oh, and I have used the repel lemongrass repellent. &nbsp;It does have a pretty strong odor and is a little oily (but not bad in my opinion). &nbsp;It also seems to work pretty well. &nbsp;I've stayed bite free. &nbsp;However, I think that I might try one of the others suggested &nbsp;in the other comments the next time around. &nbsp;Thanks for the suggestions!!</p>
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            <title>Comment #8 by rocklovingrrl</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 07:51:49 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Ditto and.... ditto.</strong></p><p>Agree with the above- I frankly don't understand the purpose of this post if there's no actual information regarding how well the bugs stayed away. Having just gone through Kings Canyon with swarms of <strong>hundreds</strong> of mozzies, I was bathing in DEET. The "natural" stuff I had wasn't cutting it one bit. Don't like DEET, but itching for days is no picnic.</p>
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				<p><strong>Ditto and.... ditto.</strong></p><p>Agree with the above- I frankly don't understand the purpose of this post if there's no actual information regarding how well the bugs stayed away. Having just gone through Kings Canyon with swarms of <strong>hundreds</strong> of mozzies, I was bathing in DEET. The "natural" stuff I had wasn't cutting it one bit. Don't like DEET, but itching for days is no picnic.</p>
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            <title>Comment #9 by splashy</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 05:16:58 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>There appear to be three studies</strong></p><p>Linked to in the Buzz Away Extreme section if you scroll down some - Guelph Field Study, USDA Test, and Tick Study.</p><p>
It looks like those might address your issues, but I don't know enough about studies to know if they are good ones or not.</p><p>
Personally, I'm going to give the Extreme version a try here in Arkansas, tick city in the woods. We have all kinds of bugs here to fend off. I'll try to report back on my experience.</p>
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				<p><strong>There appear to be three studies</strong></p><p>Linked to in the Buzz Away Extreme section if you scroll down some - Guelph Field Study, USDA Test, and Tick Study.</p><p>
It looks like those might address your issues, but I don't know enough about studies to know if they are good ones or not.</p><p>
Personally, I'm going to give the Extreme version a try here in Arkansas, tick city in the woods. We have all kinds of bugs here to fend off. I'll try to report back on my experience.</p>
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            <title>Comment #10 by Storm Dragon</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 04:39:03 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Effectiveness</strong></p><p>My brother seems to get good results from the All Terrain Herbal Armor. (I can't really speak for myself because the mosquitoes don't like me as much as they like him!)</p>
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				<p><strong>Effectiveness</strong></p><p>My brother seems to get good results from the All Terrain Herbal Armor. (I can't really speak for myself because the mosquitoes don't like me as much as they like him!)</p>
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            <title>Comment #11 by stopgreenpath</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 05:09:32 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>we need info!</strong></p><p>man, this was not useful at all. &nbsp;what kind of bugs were repelled? &nbsp;how did they hold up to sweat, humidity, etc.? &nbsp;did they stain your clothes? &nbsp;are any of them waterproof for beach/lake/river/poolside vacations?</p><p>
there is more to being bitten than itch. &nbsp;lyme's disease, west nile, dengue, malaria and dozens of other serious illnesses, many incurable, are carried by biting insects, so more than the smell of a product must be explored before recommending it. &nbsp;i agree DEET is horrifying, but you need to compare it, bite for bite, so we know the facts and can make informed choices!</p><p>
thanks...</p>
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				<p><strong>we need info!</strong></p><p>man, this was not useful at all. &nbsp;what kind of bugs were repelled? &nbsp;how did they hold up to sweat, humidity, etc.? &nbsp;did they stain your clothes? &nbsp;are any of them waterproof for beach/lake/river/poolside vacations?</p><p>
there is more to being bitten than itch. &nbsp;lyme's disease, west nile, dengue, malaria and dozens of other serious illnesses, many incurable, are carried by biting insects, so more than the smell of a product must be explored before recommending it. &nbsp;i agree DEET is horrifying, but you need to compare it, bite for bite, so we know the facts and can make informed choices!</p><p>
thanks...</p>
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