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            <title>Comment #1 by Erik Hoffner</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 03:50:08 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>water<p>Yes, FL is feeling the heat.<p>
FL's cities' water managers recently began a year long planning process for the eventuality of many of their cities being under water<p>
<a href="http://www.tcpalm.com/news/2008/may/14/water-managers-discuss-gobal-warming-s-effects-sea/" rel="nofollow">http://www.tcpalm.com/news/2008/may/14/water-managers-dis ...<p>
Ironically, or perhaps deliberately, the meeting was in Sebring, midway up the state, and the place that used to be the southern tip of FL when sea level was last at its highest.<p>
Entities south of Sebring:<p>
Fort Lauderdale, Miami, Lake Okeechobee, The Keys, Sanibel Island, The Everglades, the Florida Panther, x number of people....<p>
Erik<br>


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				<p><strong>water<p>Yes, FL is feeling the heat.<p>
FL's cities' water managers recently began a year long planning process for the eventuality of many of their cities being under water<p>
<a href="http://www.tcpalm.com/news/2008/may/14/water-managers-discuss-gobal-warming-s-effects-sea/" rel="nofollow">http://www.tcpalm.com/news/2008/may/14/water-managers-dis ...<p>
Ironically, or perhaps deliberately, the meeting was in Sebring, midway up the state, and the place that used to be the southern tip of FL when sea level was last at its highest.<p>
Entities south of Sebring:<p>
Fort Lauderdale, Miami, Lake Okeechobee, The Keys, Sanibel Island, The Everglades, the Florida Panther, x number of people....<p>
Erik<br>


<p><a href="http://www.oriongrassroots.org" rel="nofollow">The Orion Grassroots Network: supporting grassroots groups working for conservation, justice, &amp; more
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            <title>Comment #2 by Biodiversivist</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 08:23:35 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Global warming is &quot;global&quot;<p>Biofuels may help stabilize near-term oil prices by serving as fuel extenders... As the demand for transportation fuels increases, Florida's infrastructure for producing, storing, and transporting that fuel or biofuel to market will need to expand, including new storage capacity in some of Florida's ports.<p>
Are the ports to help businessmen export the biofuels to Europe (along with the subsidy American taxpayers donated), which sorta nullifies the energy independence argument?<p>
Will the crop displacement effects of the biofuels be worse for global warming?<p>
All that work and money for no net gain to society or the world (only for the politicians and businesses supporting them).<p>
&nbsp;

<p>In the end, it all comes down to biodiversity. <a href="http://www.poisondarts.net" rel="nofollow">Poison Darts--Protecting the biodiversity of our world</a></p></p></p></p></p></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>Global warming is &quot;global&quot;<p>Biofuels may help stabilize near-term oil prices by serving as fuel extenders... As the demand for transportation fuels increases, Florida's infrastructure for producing, storing, and transporting that fuel or biofuel to market will need to expand, including new storage capacity in some of Florida's ports.<p>
Are the ports to help businessmen export the biofuels to Europe (along with the subsidy American taxpayers donated), which sorta nullifies the energy independence argument?<p>
Will the crop displacement effects of the biofuels be worse for global warming?<p>
All that work and money for no net gain to society or the world (only for the politicians and businesses supporting them).<p>
&nbsp;

<p>In the end, it all comes down to biodiversity. <a href="http://www.poisondarts.net" rel="nofollow">Poison Darts--Protecting the biodiversity of our world</a></p></p></p></p></p></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #3 by stopgreenpath</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 04:17:09 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Gainesville's feed in tariff</strong></p><p>sorry, but the REALLY interesting thing that happened in FLA this week is that Gainesville announced that they, not San Francisco, Austin, Los Angeles, NYC, Chicago, Seattle, Portland, nope, Gainesville, FLA would be the first US city to adopt the wildly successful Feed In Tariff model of renewable energy incentives currently sweeping 40 countries, most notably, Germany, Spain and Japan. &nbsp;</p><p>
compensating Joe Homeowner (sorry) generously for clean power generated (and not used) on his home or business will offset fossil fuel use, massive, wasteful infrastructure buildouts, large-scale eminent domain, millions of acres of ecosystem destruction, and re-entrenchment of Big Energy monopolies in a renewable energy era. &nbsp;it will allow ratepayers/taxpayers to BENEFIT from doing the right thing by producing clean, harmless power on their properties and conserving electricity.</p><p>
FITs for point of use renewables have proven to be exponentially more effective at creating conservation savings than both net metering and hiking prices, they empower the PEOPLE, they stimulate the economy (systems pay off in ~7 years of 20 year contracts), improve slumping property values, and create thousands of local skilled labor jobs, while feeding high-value "peaker power" to the grid and preventing blackouts, without raising electricity rates noticeably.</p><p>
the ONLY people opposed to FITs are Big Energy shills and investors, like Bright Source investor, NRDC's Robt. Kennedy, Jr., who has been very outspoken in favor of wilderness-killing Big Solar projects, like the ones he stands to profit from, and has refused to help get FITs to help people like you and me. &nbsp;the CPUC has constantly railed against allowing people to produce renewable energy themselves. &nbsp;why? &nbsp;because it's "base" is the bribe-wielding utilities, not the ratepayers. &nbsp;strange, eh?</p><p>
i've said it constantly for 2 years now: &nbsp;there is NO NEED TO KILL OUR WILDERNESS FOR CLEAN POWER, nor to pathetically tether ourselves to Big Energy any longer. &nbsp;We need FIT's, smart metering, better storage tech, and increased investment in LOCAL, POINT OF USE RENEWABLES AND CONSERVATION. &nbsp;let's leave our ecosystems alone, to function as they are designed to function, ok?

<p>the greenest energy is that which you needn't ever produce.</p></p>
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				<p><strong>Gainesville's feed in tariff</strong></p><p>sorry, but the REALLY interesting thing that happened in FLA this week is that Gainesville announced that they, not San Francisco, Austin, Los Angeles, NYC, Chicago, Seattle, Portland, nope, Gainesville, FLA would be the first US city to adopt the wildly successful Feed In Tariff model of renewable energy incentives currently sweeping 40 countries, most notably, Germany, Spain and Japan. &nbsp;</p><p>
compensating Joe Homeowner (sorry) generously for clean power generated (and not used) on his home or business will offset fossil fuel use, massive, wasteful infrastructure buildouts, large-scale eminent domain, millions of acres of ecosystem destruction, and re-entrenchment of Big Energy monopolies in a renewable energy era. &nbsp;it will allow ratepayers/taxpayers to BENEFIT from doing the right thing by producing clean, harmless power on their properties and conserving electricity.</p><p>
FITs for point of use renewables have proven to be exponentially more effective at creating conservation savings than both net metering and hiking prices, they empower the PEOPLE, they stimulate the economy (systems pay off in ~7 years of 20 year contracts), improve slumping property values, and create thousands of local skilled labor jobs, while feeding high-value "peaker power" to the grid and preventing blackouts, without raising electricity rates noticeably.</p><p>
the ONLY people opposed to FITs are Big Energy shills and investors, like Bright Source investor, NRDC's Robt. Kennedy, Jr., who has been very outspoken in favor of wilderness-killing Big Solar projects, like the ones he stands to profit from, and has refused to help get FITs to help people like you and me. &nbsp;the CPUC has constantly railed against allowing people to produce renewable energy themselves. &nbsp;why? &nbsp;because it's "base" is the bribe-wielding utilities, not the ratepayers. &nbsp;strange, eh?</p><p>
i've said it constantly for 2 years now: &nbsp;there is NO NEED TO KILL OUR WILDERNESS FOR CLEAN POWER, nor to pathetically tether ourselves to Big Energy any longer. &nbsp;We need FIT's, smart metering, better storage tech, and increased investment in LOCAL, POINT OF USE RENEWABLES AND CONSERVATION. &nbsp;let's leave our ecosystems alone, to function as they are designed to function, ok?

<p>the greenest energy is that which you needn't ever produce.</p></p>
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