<![CDATA[Grist - Comment Feed for Despite accusations otherwise, U.S. enviros are working to help their Chinese counterparts]]> Grist Comment Feed en Comment #1 by jdhlax http://www.grist.org/article/stand-with-chinese-environmentalists/ Sat, 16 Apr 2005 04:42:10 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/stand-with-chinese-environmentalists/1 Killing Baby Animals IS An Important Issue

While most of the rest of the post is good, the comments that "China's environmental problems are more important than seal-clubbing" are disgusting and disturbing.  This practice is comparable to people going to preschools and killing a large number of children because those children were somehow causing the killers a decline in income.  (Baby seals are now killed because the fishing industry thinks that seals eat "their" fish.)

I don't think the seals being killed suffer from low population, so it's true that the issue of killing of their babies is not as important as those of overopopulation, deforestation, species extinction, or construction of hideously huge dam(n)s.  However, the totally immoral, environmentally unsustainable, and inexcusable killing of baby animals was an extremely poor choice for a comparison to what is less important than China's environmental problems.

Also,, though this is not a minor detail, I noticed that the Grist writer, praktike, made no mention of China's extreme overpopulation, which is easily the biggest environmental problem there.  praktike has very little environmental background, and I have to wonder what he or she is doing writing for Grist.  (BA in Political Science, with a concentration in American government. Wrote senior essays about voter registration databases and Hispanic voting patterns. Currently working for a small environmentally-inclined non-profit organization. In June, plans to study Arabic at the American University in Cairo.)  It would behoove Grist and your readers to confine writings to those written by people who actually know something about environmental problems!

]]> Killing Baby Animals IS An Important Issue

While most of the rest of the post is good, the comments that "China's environmental problems are more important than seal-clubbing" are disgusting and disturbing.  This practice is comparable to people going to preschools and killing a large number of children because those children were somehow causing the killers a decline in income.  (Baby seals are now killed because the fishing industry thinks that seals eat "their" fish.)

I don't think the seals being killed suffer from low population, so it's true that the issue of killing of their babies is not as important as those of overopopulation, deforestation, species extinction, or construction of hideously huge dam(n)s.  However, the totally immoral, environmentally unsustainable, and inexcusable killing of baby animals was an extremely poor choice for a comparison to what is less important than China's environmental problems.

Also,, though this is not a minor detail, I noticed that the Grist writer, praktike, made no mention of China's extreme overpopulation, which is easily the biggest environmental problem there.  praktike has very little environmental background, and I have to wonder what he or she is doing writing for Grist.  (BA in Political Science, with a concentration in American government. Wrote senior essays about voter registration databases and Hispanic voting patterns. Currently working for a small environmentally-inclined non-profit organization. In June, plans to study Arabic at the American University in Cairo.)  It would behoove Grist and your readers to confine writings to those written by people who actually know something about environmental problems!

]]> Comment #2 by praktike http://www.grist.org/article/stand-with-chinese-environmentalists/ Sat, 16 Apr 2005 05:42:31 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/stand-with-chinese-environmentalists/2 but, jdhlax

You just agreed with me!

]]> but, jdhlax

You just agreed with me!

]]> Comment #3 by David Roberts http://www.grist.org/article/stand-with-chinese-environmentalists/ Sat, 16 Apr 2005 15:56:34 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/stand-with-chinese-environmentalists/3 Don't worry, praktike,

I've yet to encounter the person or piece of writing pure enough to pass the test of jdhlax's pinched ideology. If we only heard from people he deems "environmentalist" about issues deems "important," this site would be as shrill, sanctimonious, and predictable as his comments. And I'm pretty sure he'd be the only one reading.

Great post, by the way.

www.grist.org

]]> Don't worry, praktike,

I've yet to encounter the person or piece of writing pure enough to pass the test of jdhlax's pinched ideology. If we only heard from people he deems "environmentalist" about issues deems "important," this site would be as shrill, sanctimonious, and predictable as his comments. And I'm pretty sure he'd be the only one reading.

Great post, by the way.

www.grist.org

]]> Comment #4 by jdhlax http://www.grist.org/article/stand-with-chinese-environmentalists/ Sun, 17 Apr 2005 17:59:56 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/stand-with-chinese-environmentalists/4 Pure As The Driven Snow

Well, Dave, it's simply not true that you haven't seen any writings I like, because I've posted links to them here.  For example, Captain Paul Watson wrote an excellent response to that Death of Environmentalism crap.

For your part, instead of answering my concerns, you resort to name calling.  What about someone who has very little enviro experience in the resume, what about lame statements that the baby seal slaughter isn't an important issue, what about the fact that in discussing China' enviro problems, the writer totally negleted their biggest one?

]]> Pure As The Driven Snow

Well, Dave, it's simply not true that you haven't seen any writings I like, because I've posted links to them here.  For example, Captain Paul Watson wrote an excellent response to that Death of Environmentalism crap.

For your part, instead of answering my concerns, you resort to name calling.  What about someone who has very little enviro experience in the resume, what about lame statements that the baby seal slaughter isn't an important issue, what about the fact that in discussing China' enviro problems, the writer totally negleted their biggest one?

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