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            <title>Comment #1 by meander</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jul 2006 10:46:54 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Nationalization of house building</strong></p><p>One factor not mentioned in the post is the nationalization of the house-building industry. &nbsp;The NY Times had a Magazine story about the subject a few months back, so the full text is behind the dollar wall. &nbsp;The significance of nationalization is that the profits from projects in sprawl-friendly areas can be used to pay the "costs of doing business" for projects like the one described above. &nbsp; Back in the days of small, regional house builders, it would be much more difficult to come up with $22 million to pay off the city. &nbsp;<br>
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				<p><strong>Nationalization of house building</strong></p><p>One factor not mentioned in the post is the nationalization of the house-building industry. &nbsp;The NY Times had a Magazine story about the subject a few months back, so the full text is behind the dollar wall. &nbsp;The significance of nationalization is that the profits from projects in sprawl-friendly areas can be used to pay the "costs of doing business" for projects like the one described above. &nbsp; Back in the days of small, regional house builders, it would be much more difficult to come up with $22 million to pay off the city. &nbsp;<br>
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            <title>Comment #2 by ffletcher</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jul 2006 21:00:02 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>No Problem With Paying, Density Is the Issue</strong></p><p>Is it wrong for municipals to charge such developers fees?</p><p>
I think developer's should pay such fees. &nbsp;Where I think the deal went wrong was the town's insistence that density not exceed 4.3 units per acre, the City's standard for development. &nbsp;This is for seniors, seniors don't do enjoy working big lawns. &nbsp;The density could have been much higher, at least 16. &nbsp;Further, they should have made some commericial development near the border for medical, groceries, restaurants, etc. &nbsp;The developer is quoted saying that they wanted higher density.</p><p>
In my experience it is not the developers who are causing these low densities and resisting mixed use, it is city planners.</p>
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				<p><strong>No Problem With Paying, Density Is the Issue</strong></p><p>Is it wrong for municipals to charge such developers fees?</p><p>
I think developer's should pay such fees. &nbsp;Where I think the deal went wrong was the town's insistence that density not exceed 4.3 units per acre, the City's standard for development. &nbsp;This is for seniors, seniors don't do enjoy working big lawns. &nbsp;The density could have been much higher, at least 16. &nbsp;Further, they should have made some commericial development near the border for medical, groceries, restaurants, etc. &nbsp;The developer is quoted saying that they wanted higher density.</p><p>
In my experience it is not the developers who are causing these low densities and resisting mixed use, it is city planners.</p>
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