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            <title>Comment #1 by Biodiversivist</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 09:43:35 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Just typed in four desitnations in a row<p>Didn't find any of them. Good enough for government work I guess.

<p>In the end, it all comes down to biodiversity. <a href="http://www.poisondarts.net" rel="nofollow">Poison Darts--Protecting the biodiversity of our world</a></p></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>Just typed in four desitnations in a row<p>Didn't find any of them. Good enough for government work I guess.

<p>In the end, it all comes down to biodiversity. <a href="http://www.poisondarts.net" rel="nofollow">Poison Darts--Protecting the biodiversity of our world</a></p></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #2 by Michelle Parker</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 10:25:37 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Typed in one destination -- spelled correctly ;-)</strong></p><p>And had great success! &nbsp;Even learned about a new and better bus route that I hadn't previously known of.</p><p>
SpotBus is really cool and fun to use! &nbsp;Thanks for sharing this, Eric!</p>
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				<p><strong>Typed in one destination -- spelled correctly ;-)</strong></p><p>And had great success! &nbsp;Even learned about a new and better bus route that I hadn't previously known of.</p><p>
SpotBus is really cool and fun to use! &nbsp;Thanks for sharing this, Eric!</p>
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            <title>Comment #3 by Biodiversivist</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 15:08:12 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Tried two more<p>It found the Space Needle but not Ikea.

<p>In the end, it all comes down to biodiversity. <a href="http://www.poisondarts.net" rel="nofollow">Poison Darts--Protecting the biodiversity of our world</a></p></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>Tried two more<p>It found the Space Needle but not Ikea.

<p>In the end, it all comes down to biodiversity. <a href="http://www.poisondarts.net" rel="nofollow">Poison Darts--Protecting the biodiversity of our world</a></p></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #4 by Eric de Place</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 02:06:12 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Yeah, it does find Ikea</strong></p><p>Try it again. I used that example because I know it works -- just did it again this morning, in fact.</p>
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				<p><strong>Yeah, it does find Ikea</strong></p><p>Try it again. I used that example because I know it works -- just did it again this morning, in fact.</p>
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            <title>Comment #5 by JMG</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 02:27:32 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>make transit part of the address</strong></p><p>For years now, whenever I meet someone in a city or county government funding transit or anyone who works for a transit agency I make this pitch:</p><p>
<b>We need to make transit routes part of the address</b> so that services like this are not necessary.</p><p>
I suggest starting with all government offices and events: &nbsp;whenever anything is published (business cards, newspaper or radio ads, flyers, brochures, web pages, ANYTHING) that gives a physical address, the publisher would have to give the route identifiers of nearby transit routes, with a limit of five routes for offices on heavily served routes. &nbsp;Work with the transit agency to make sure that every public agency office thinks of and uses its transit routes as part of its address on its letterhead, etc.</p><p>
You could do it on the next line down from the office name, to avoid messing with postal systems:</p><p>
Gov't Office Name<br>
Metro: 1, 1A, 7, 19, 42<br>
1000 Downtown Square, Ste. 730<br>
Anytown, ST Zip+Four</p><p>
So far, not a single elected or staff official has ever said anything other than "That's a good idea" (sometimes "That's a great idea!") --- but, to my knowledge, not a single one has done anything with it. The inertia factor is just too large.</p><p>
Once government offices do it, it could easily spread into commercial businesses (retail), and then into all businesses and non-profits that seek visitors.

<p>Save the world:  Reduce greenhouse gas emissions 5% annually.</p></br></br></br></p>
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				<p><strong>make transit part of the address</strong></p><p>For years now, whenever I meet someone in a city or county government funding transit or anyone who works for a transit agency I make this pitch:</p><p>
<b>We need to make transit routes part of the address</b> so that services like this are not necessary.</p><p>
I suggest starting with all government offices and events: &nbsp;whenever anything is published (business cards, newspaper or radio ads, flyers, brochures, web pages, ANYTHING) that gives a physical address, the publisher would have to give the route identifiers of nearby transit routes, with a limit of five routes for offices on heavily served routes. &nbsp;Work with the transit agency to make sure that every public agency office thinks of and uses its transit routes as part of its address on its letterhead, etc.</p><p>
You could do it on the next line down from the office name, to avoid messing with postal systems:</p><p>
Gov't Office Name<br>
Metro: 1, 1A, 7, 19, 42<br>
1000 Downtown Square, Ste. 730<br>
Anytown, ST Zip+Four</p><p>
So far, not a single elected or staff official has ever said anything other than "That's a good idea" (sometimes "That's a great idea!") --- but, to my knowledge, not a single one has done anything with it. The inertia factor is just too large.</p><p>
Once government offices do it, it could easily spread into commercial businesses (retail), and then into all businesses and non-profits that seek visitors.

<p>Save the world:  Reduce greenhouse gas emissions 5% annually.</p></br></br></br></p>
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            <title>Comment #6 by Biodiversivist</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 14:13:04 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Ikea found<p>It is a great idea. Hopefully they will make it a lot better with time. Should be able to type in any business or store and get a 98% success rate. If there is a profit motive behind improving the software it will improve. If there isn't, it won't.<p>
I would like to see something similar for bike routes. Hmm, charge 50 cents a session and maybe it would happen.

<p>In the end, it all comes down to biodiversity. <a href="http://www.poisondarts.net" rel="nofollow">Poison Darts--Protecting the biodiversity of our world</a></p></p></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>Ikea found<p>It is a great idea. Hopefully they will make it a lot better with time. Should be able to type in any business or store and get a 98% success rate. If there is a profit motive behind improving the software it will improve. If there isn't, it won't.<p>
I would like to see something similar for bike routes. Hmm, charge 50 cents a session and maybe it would happen.

<p>In the end, it all comes down to biodiversity. <a href="http://www.poisondarts.net" rel="nofollow">Poison Darts--Protecting the biodiversity of our world</a></p></p></p></strong></p>
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