<![CDATA[Grist - Comment Feed for Oil spills into Mississippi River after tanker-barge collision]]> Grist Comment Feed en Comment #1 by Wolverine http://www.grist.org/article/spill/ Wed, 23 Jul 2008 07:23:56 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/spill/1 More Death From The Trouble Monkeys

"We have a lot of wildlife in the southern delta."  Might as well make that "had."

]]> More Death From The Trouble Monkeys

"We have a lot of wildlife in the southern delta."  Might as well make that "had."

]]> Comment #2 by Masked Goddess http://www.grist.org/article/spill/ Wed, 23 Jul 2008 08:06:31 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/spill/2 Environmental impact seems pretty clear to me

420,000 gallons of fuel oil spilled.  I have to agree with Wolverine.  I suppose a slap on the wrist will be in order.  Arghh!

]]> Environmental impact seems pretty clear to me

420,000 gallons of fuel oil spilled.  I have to agree with Wolverine.  I suppose a slap on the wrist will be in order.  Arghh!

]]> Comment #3 by perk http://www.grist.org/article/spill/ Wed, 23 Jul 2008 11:20:20 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/spill/3 It is worse than that, all of New Orleans smells l

http://www.nola.com/news/index.ssf/2008/07/ap_collision_c ...

]]> It is worse than that, all of New Orleans smells l

http://www.nola.com/news/index.ssf/2008/07/ap_collision_c ...

]]> Comment #4 by perk http://www.grist.org/article/spill/ Wed, 23 Jul 2008 11:29:51 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/spill/4 Nice Video of spill right at the French Quarter

http://videos.nola.com/nola/2008/07/coast_guard_video_oil ...

]]> Nice Video of spill right at the French Quarter

http://videos.nola.com/nola/2008/07/coast_guard_video_oil ...

]]> Comment #5 by Tasermons Partner http://www.grist.org/article/spill/ Wed, 23 Jul 2008 11:38:16 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/spill/5 And it didn't even raise oil prices : (

]]> And it didn't even raise oil prices : (

]]> Comment #6 by perk http://www.grist.org/article/spill/ Wed, 23 Jul 2008 12:40:38 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/spill/6 But McCain cancelled

John McCain's visit to New Orleans and Gulf oil rig was canceled due to "weather". Well, suffice to say speaking in New Orleans about opening up more off-shore drilling wouldn't pass the "smell test" today.

Source: http://www.nola.com/news/index.ssf/2008/07/mccain_visit_d ...

]]> But McCain cancelled

John McCain's visit to New Orleans and Gulf oil rig was canceled due to "weather". Well, suffice to say speaking in New Orleans about opening up more off-shore drilling wouldn't pass the "smell test" today.

Source: http://www.nola.com/news/index.ssf/2008/07/mccain_visit_d ...

]]> Comment #7 by perk http://www.grist.org/article/spill/ Wed, 23 Jul 2008 12:58:07 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/spill/7 This effect of this spill is cannot be overstated

Due to holes remaining in the levees from Katrina that exist south of New Orleans, the danger of contamination of the wetlands there is very real.
The very large south portion of the state contains hundreds of thousands of acres of "swamp" fed by the Mississippi that is the major breeding ground for most of the fish that we enjoy as food in the Gulf of Mexico. If this heavy, number 6 fuel oil is not contained quickly, much damage to that breeding ground will result. Thankfully, the fishing industry in LA is a strong voice and the state has prepared to mobilize significant resources to clean-up such an event as a result.

Let's hope that clean up plan works. From some experience I can say that the "hands" that do the clean-up are from long lines of fishing Cajun families of South LA that understand this well, and they will be most diligent in that effort.

]]> This effect of this spill is cannot be overstated

Due to holes remaining in the levees from Katrina that exist south of New Orleans, the danger of contamination of the wetlands there is very real.
The very large south portion of the state contains hundreds of thousands of acres of "swamp" fed by the Mississippi that is the major breeding ground for most of the fish that we enjoy as food in the Gulf of Mexico. If this heavy, number 6 fuel oil is not contained quickly, much damage to that breeding ground will result. Thankfully, the fishing industry in LA is a strong voice and the state has prepared to mobilize significant resources to clean-up such an event as a result.

Let's hope that clean up plan works. From some experience I can say that the "hands" that do the clean-up are from long lines of fishing Cajun families of South LA that understand this well, and they will be most diligent in that effort.

]]> Comment #8 by Fingers http://www.grist.org/article/spill/ Thu, 24 Jul 2008 03:11:17 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/spill/8 BTS

Thanks for the double entendre shout out to Boise rockers!

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Thanks for the double entendre shout out to Boise rockers!

]]> Comment #9 by Pathos http://www.grist.org/article/spill/ Thu, 24 Jul 2008 03:41:46 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/spill/9 "Not zero"

This is off-topic--which is to say, it's on the topic of the last sentence of the post, which was off-topic. That's okay.

On the millions of gallons spilled during Katrina and Rita:

I followed the "not zero" link, and followed the links in the link, checked the Minerals Management Service website, was grossly mislead as was their intention, followed some more links to an actual news source (such as it is), and... Yeah. Katrina and Rita spilled something like 9 million gallons of crude.

Now, when McCain uses the fact that Katrina and Rita didn't cause "significant spillage" as an argument for off-shore drilling, he's not as full of $#@!! as you think. (Which isn't to say he isn't full of $#@!!--getting there.) The fact is, off-shore drilling only contributed to about 700,000 gallons of spills, and it was all in the form of what they call "minor" spills (less than 10,000 gallons) and "moderate" spills (less than 100,000 gallons). All the "major" spills (you know, like the the 3.78-million-gallon one) were actually inland.

So, "No major spills in the Gulf from Katrina and Rita." It's true. If you're looking for a major spill from an offshore oil rig as argument against offshore drilling, you're out of luck. You know... As long as you don't consider spills of 99,999 gallons or less to be "major"... And really, what's a few tens of thousands of gallons of lethal black slime among friends?

It is, of course, a crock of $#@!! to say that there were no major spills at all... They just don't happen to be relevant to arguments about offshore drilling.

Therefore, the real moral of this story is... We shouldn't be drilling inland, either.

]]> "Not zero"

This is off-topic--which is to say, it's on the topic of the last sentence of the post, which was off-topic. That's okay.

On the millions of gallons spilled during Katrina and Rita:

I followed the "not zero" link, and followed the links in the link, checked the Minerals Management Service website, was grossly mislead as was their intention, followed some more links to an actual news source (such as it is), and... Yeah. Katrina and Rita spilled something like 9 million gallons of crude.

Now, when McCain uses the fact that Katrina and Rita didn't cause "significant spillage" as an argument for off-shore drilling, he's not as full of $#@!! as you think. (Which isn't to say he isn't full of $#@!!--getting there.) The fact is, off-shore drilling only contributed to about 700,000 gallons of spills, and it was all in the form of what they call "minor" spills (less than 10,000 gallons) and "moderate" spills (less than 100,000 gallons). All the "major" spills (you know, like the the 3.78-million-gallon one) were actually inland.

So, "No major spills in the Gulf from Katrina and Rita." It's true. If you're looking for a major spill from an offshore oil rig as argument against offshore drilling, you're out of luck. You know... As long as you don't consider spills of 99,999 gallons or less to be "major"... And really, what's a few tens of thousands of gallons of lethal black slime among friends?

It is, of course, a crock of $#@!! to say that there were no major spills at all... They just don't happen to be relevant to arguments about offshore drilling.

Therefore, the real moral of this story is... We shouldn't be drilling inland, either.

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