<![CDATA[Grist - Comment Feed for Over 150 companies worldwide sign climate petition in advance of Bali]]> Grist Comment Feed en Comment #1 by Pangolin http://www.grist.org/article/somebody-didnt-get-the-environment-vs-economy-memo/ Thu, 29 Nov 2007 16:20:30 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/somebody-didnt-get-the-environment-vs-economy-memo/1 Just 150?

Because last time I checked most companies do a whole lot better selling stuff to people if said people aren't being chased from their homes by hurricanes, tornados, cyclones, wildfires and mega-droughts.

Just saying.

Like say, for instance the Coca Cola company in Atlanta just really, really, really, doesn't want people looking at them real hard if the southeast drought ends up shutting down their production. Some wiseacre will point out Coca-Cola's sales of bottled water as perfect examples of futile sales of products that are overall detrimental to the climate.

Ditto just about every fortune 500 company with the exception of Google.

So give us another year of global mega-weather and that 150 should hopefully look something like 150 thousand.

Let's check back on this next year shall we?

Put the Carbon Back

]]> Just 150?

Because last time I checked most companies do a whole lot better selling stuff to people if said people aren't being chased from their homes by hurricanes, tornados, cyclones, wildfires and mega-droughts.

Just saying.

Like say, for instance the Coca Cola company in Atlanta just really, really, really, doesn't want people looking at them real hard if the southeast drought ends up shutting down their production. Some wiseacre will point out Coca-Cola's sales of bottled water as perfect examples of futile sales of products that are overall detrimental to the climate.

Ditto just about every fortune 500 company with the exception of Google.

So give us another year of global mega-weather and that 150 should hopefully look something like 150 thousand.

Let's check back on this next year shall we?

Put the Carbon Back

]]> Comment #2 by Tasermons Partner http://www.grist.org/article/somebody-didnt-get-the-environment-vs-economy-memo/ Thu, 29 Nov 2007 16:27:25 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/somebody-didnt-get-the-environment-vs-economy-memo/2 Good start....

It's a good start, but one wonders just how many of the 150 companies are already eco-freindly and have reduced their GHG emissions enough to comply.

If it's mostly companies like Whole Foods Markets, Seventh Generation, Green Mountain Energy, etc., then we're not really makin' much additional progress.

]]> Good start....

It's a good start, but one wonders just how many of the 150 companies are already eco-freindly and have reduced their GHG emissions enough to comply.

If it's mostly companies like Whole Foods Markets, Seventh Generation, Green Mountain Energy, etc., then we're not really makin' much additional progress.

]]> Comment #3 by mleonard http://www.grist.org/article/somebody-didnt-get-the-environment-vs-economy-memo/ Thu, 29 Nov 2007 16:28:39 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/somebody-didnt-get-the-environment-vs-economy-memo/3 Mostly non-US companies. Surprised?

Just glancing over the list of signatories - and overwhelmingly, they are NOT US-based companies. Without doing research into where companies are actually headquartered - I casually counted about 10 (of 150) that I recognized as US-based.

-Matt

]]> Mostly non-US companies. Surprised?

Just glancing over the list of signatories - and overwhelmingly, they are NOT US-based companies. Without doing research into where companies are actually headquartered - I casually counted about 10 (of 150) that I recognized as US-based.

-Matt

]]> Comment #4 by Tasermons Partner http://www.grist.org/article/somebody-didnt-get-the-environment-vs-economy-memo/ Thu, 29 Nov 2007 16:37:40 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/somebody-didnt-get-the-environment-vs-economy-memo/4 A few...

There do appear to be few on the list who can make a big diiference (if they actually stuck with it).  Ebay, Shell Oil, British Airways (don't they fly empty planes?), and a few others.

But there are also a few companies that are already devoted to health and environmental protection.

]]> A few...

There do appear to be few on the list who can make a big diiference (if they actually stuck with it).  Ebay, Shell Oil, British Airways (don't they fly empty planes?), and a few others.

But there are also a few companies that are already devoted to health and environmental protection.

]]> Comment #5 by amazingdrx http://www.grist.org/article/somebody-didnt-get-the-environment-vs-economy-memo/ Fri, 30 Nov 2007 00:10:31 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/somebody-didnt-get-the-environment-vs-economy-memo/5 Green is good for growth

This is a very good sign.  I see Bill C going all around the world in the near future as booster for this POV.

Lower energy costs would be  the quickest growth factor to reverse the recessionary trend. Right now inflation due to oil and other fossil energy and heavy US borrowing to fund oil war has the US and world economy headed for disaster.

And good jobs and a revival of the US manufacturing and tax base would be the medium term growth booster lasting for decades as the renewable energy boom rolls out.

The curtailing of GHG climate effects, storm, drought, ice melting, and so forth would be the financial insurance backing up human quality of life and standard of living long term.  Handing off a planet back in balance to future generations.

http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog

]]> Green is good for growth

This is a very good sign.  I see Bill C going all around the world in the near future as booster for this POV.

Lower energy costs would be  the quickest growth factor to reverse the recessionary trend. Right now inflation due to oil and other fossil energy and heavy US borrowing to fund oil war has the US and world economy headed for disaster.

And good jobs and a revival of the US manufacturing and tax base would be the medium term growth booster lasting for decades as the renewable energy boom rolls out.

The curtailing of GHG climate effects, storm, drought, ice melting, and so forth would be the financial insurance backing up human quality of life and standard of living long term.  Handing off a planet back in balance to future generations.

http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog

]]> Comment #6 by Delay And Deny http://www.grist.org/article/somebody-didnt-get-the-environment-vs-economy-memo/ Fri, 30 Nov 2007 02:11:15 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/somebody-didnt-get-the-environment-vs-economy-memo/6 Coming To Theatres in 2008!


Kyoto Accord
Bali Communique

This series rivals Bourne...

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]]> Coming To Theatres in 2008!


Kyoto Accord
Bali Communique

This series rivals Bourne...

My Log



]]> Comment #7 by Waxwing http://www.grist.org/article/somebody-didnt-get-the-environment-vs-economy-memo/ Sat, 01 Dec 2007 03:45:31 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/somebody-didnt-get-the-environment-vs-economy-memo/7 Didn't get the environment vs. economy memo

Unfortunately, green has become a marketing tool, advertise but do business as normal, if it wasn't, plastic bags would be outlawed but only a few countries in the third world (?) and a few cities have banned this scourge in modern life.  The auto companies still push SUV's and exclude the compacts and sub-compacts.  

Jerry

]]> Didn't get the environment vs. economy memo

Unfortunately, green has become a marketing tool, advertise but do business as normal, if it wasn't, plastic bags would be outlawed but only a few countries in the third world (?) and a few cities have banned this scourge in modern life.  The auto companies still push SUV's and exclude the compacts and sub-compacts.  

Jerry

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