<![CDATA[Grist - Comment Feed for Brazil’s pro-rainforest environment minister resigns]]> Grist Comment Feed en Comment #1 by Wolverine http://www.grist.org/article/silva/ Tue, 13 May 2008 09:42:15 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/silva/1 Another Leftist Anti-Environmentalist

The situation in Brazil, specifically President Lula, is another of the many examples of how the left is just as willing to destroy the Earth as the right.  As Douglas Adams tried to point out, trying to make people happy by moving little green pieces of paper around is bound to fail, because it's not the little green pieces of paper that are unhappy.

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The situation in Brazil, specifically President Lula, is another of the many examples of how the left is just as willing to destroy the Earth as the right.  As Douglas Adams tried to point out, trying to make people happy by moving little green pieces of paper around is bound to fail, because it's not the little green pieces of paper that are unhappy.

]]> Comment #2 by randino http://www.grist.org/article/silva/ Wed, 14 May 2008 00:10:42 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/silva/2 Work with politicians, but realize that

at the end of the day, they are politicians. This is another example of what I have seen locally in Cleveland, in our Senate delegation, and now all the way to Brazil.

In Cleveland, city hall declares itself for the Kyoto Protocols, announces bold new initiatives for sustainability and then buys into a horrific coal power project in SE Ohio. In our Senate delegation, Sherrod Brown, whose first act of activism was to organize Earth Day in his home town as a teenager, has now joined the carbon crowd and has joined environmental criminal George Voinovich in voting against Warner Lieberman. No great bill, but something.

Environmentalists have to stop being a bunch of chumps, suckers and vestal virgins in working with politicians. We need to put down our Audubon field guides, and crack the books on politics and history. Then we have to buy a pair of brass knuckles and learn to play the game, just like the pols do. Power is the ability to reward or punish someone. We need to learn how to use it.  

Randy Cunningham

]]> Work with politicians, but realize that

at the end of the day, they are politicians. This is another example of what I have seen locally in Cleveland, in our Senate delegation, and now all the way to Brazil.

In Cleveland, city hall declares itself for the Kyoto Protocols, announces bold new initiatives for sustainability and then buys into a horrific coal power project in SE Ohio. In our Senate delegation, Sherrod Brown, whose first act of activism was to organize Earth Day in his home town as a teenager, has now joined the carbon crowd and has joined environmental criminal George Voinovich in voting against Warner Lieberman. No great bill, but something.

Environmentalists have to stop being a bunch of chumps, suckers and vestal virgins in working with politicians. We need to put down our Audubon field guides, and crack the books on politics and history. Then we have to buy a pair of brass knuckles and learn to play the game, just like the pols do. Power is the ability to reward or punish someone. We need to learn how to use it.  

Randy Cunningham

]]> Comment #3 by usandthem http://www.grist.org/article/silva/ Wed, 14 May 2008 13:19:52 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/silva/3 Maybe

Maybe ms.Silva just got bought off!

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Maybe ms.Silva just got bought off!

]]> Comment #4 by Tasermons Partner http://www.grist.org/article/silva/ Wed, 14 May 2008 13:42:12 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/silva/4 Bought off?...

...Ha!  And the Dali Lama got bought off by China, MLK Jr. got bought off by the KKK, Mother Teresa was bought off by Muslium extremists, and Ghandi got bought off by KBR and the Pentagon.

Ain't happenin', bud.

]]> Bought off?...

...Ha!  And the Dali Lama got bought off by China, MLK Jr. got bought off by the KKK, Mother Teresa was bought off by Muslium extremists, and Ghandi got bought off by KBR and the Pentagon.

Ain't happenin', bud.

]]> Comment #5 by Pathos http://www.grist.org/article/silva/ Wed, 14 May 2008 14:08:45 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/silva/5 Even ignoring her work record...

If she resigned, obviously she wasn't "bought off." When you buy someone off, you pay them to stay in power, so they can keep doing what you want.

There was no official reason given, which means it could be anything from psychological breakdown to a mildly embarrassing health problem she doesn't want to see in headlines. But if it's anything shady, it's far more likely she was somehow quietly forced to leave office than that she was bribed into it.

]]> Even ignoring her work record...

If she resigned, obviously she wasn't "bought off." When you buy someone off, you pay them to stay in power, so they can keep doing what you want.

There was no official reason given, which means it could be anything from psychological breakdown to a mildly embarrassing health problem she doesn't want to see in headlines. But if it's anything shady, it's far more likely she was somehow quietly forced to leave office than that she was bribed into it.

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