<![CDATA[Grist - Comment Feed for A new play with historical and environmental roots]]> Grist Comment Feed en Comment #1 by Pangolin http://www.grist.org/article/sex-wives-and-climate-change/ Wed, 09 Jan 2008 08:39:12 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/sex-wives-and-climate-change/1 Cue Flying Monkeys.

Not to harsh the tone or anything but the concept that wives giving up sex as a means of encouraging climate change activism is just laughable.

In the first place it would take your average husband several weeks to a month to notice. Then would come the feeling of relief........

But seriously. Drive down to your local elementary school. Arrive at 7:50 and stay till 8:30 out front. I have yet to see a kid delivered in a tractor trailer but everything under that size is used. Giant SUV's and quad cab diesel pick-ups abound.

When the pope is a bear and all catholics carp in the woods this will happen.

Put the Carbon Back

]]> Cue Flying Monkeys.

Not to harsh the tone or anything but the concept that wives giving up sex as a means of encouraging climate change activism is just laughable.

In the first place it would take your average husband several weeks to a month to notice. Then would come the feeling of relief........

But seriously. Drive down to your local elementary school. Arrive at 7:50 and stay till 8:30 out front. I have yet to see a kid delivered in a tractor trailer but everything under that size is used. Giant SUV's and quad cab diesel pick-ups abound.

When the pope is a bear and all catholics carp in the woods this will happen.

Put the Carbon Back

]]> Comment #2 by Erik Hoffner http://www.grist.org/article/sex-wives-and-climate-change/ Thu, 10 Jan 2008 05:48:44 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/sex-wives-and-climate-change/2 the point

You miss the point. The playwright is not calling for a sex strike. It's humor, history, and current events.

This play is noteworthy for the same reason that making a movie about climate change is, ie, make a movie and reach all those people who don't want to attend a conference about climate change (and win an Oscar).

Make a play and maybe you'll reach some of those people who don't watch movies but will see performance pieces like this one.

And while you're at it, bend the definitions of the words "activism" and "radical" in new ways.

Erik

The Orion Grassroots Network: 1,100+ grassroots groups working for conservation & more

]]> the point

You miss the point. The playwright is not calling for a sex strike. It's humor, history, and current events.

This play is noteworthy for the same reason that making a movie about climate change is, ie, make a movie and reach all those people who don't want to attend a conference about climate change (and win an Oscar).

Make a play and maybe you'll reach some of those people who don't watch movies but will see performance pieces like this one.

And while you're at it, bend the definitions of the words "activism" and "radical" in new ways.

Erik

The Orion Grassroots Network: 1,100+ grassroots groups working for conservation & more

]]> Comment #3 by kablume http://www.grist.org/article/sex-wives-and-climate-change/ Thu, 10 Jan 2008 17:46:21 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/sex-wives-and-climate-change/3 Thanks!

Erik,

Thanks for the shout-out and for deflecting the missed point.

To continue the clarification, the show is a farce.  The uber-message is not about an eco-sex strike.  It's about the wild, hairy, creative solutions we each need to undertake to inch ourselves a little farther back from the brink.

Also ongoing thanks to all the great guys and gals at Grist for the fantastic, world-saving work!

- Kathy

]]> Thanks!

Erik,

Thanks for the shout-out and for deflecting the missed point.

To continue the clarification, the show is a farce.  The uber-message is not about an eco-sex strike.  It's about the wild, hairy, creative solutions we each need to undertake to inch ourselves a little farther back from the brink.

Also ongoing thanks to all the great guys and gals at Grist for the fantastic, world-saving work!

- Kathy

]]> Comment #4 by caniscandida http://www.grist.org/article/sex-wives-and-climate-change/ Thu, 10 Jan 2008 20:13:27 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/sex-wives-and-climate-change/4 Break a leg, Kathy!

Well done!  I hope I get to see a performance at some point.

Whether or not by accident, the heroine's first name, "Lyssa," is a real ancient Greek noun.  In the Iliad, it means violent rage.  As a proper noun, it is the name for the hellish goddess who personifies that emotion.  In Euripides' "Heracles," she is sent by Hera to madden the title hero, who murders his wife and children under her influence.

The red-eyed tree frog (from what I can tell) as animal spirit guide (if that is what it is) is an excellent choice.  Polar bears are beginning to be over-used as mascots.

Did you see Nathan Lane's "The Frogs," here in NYC at Alice Tully Hall, the summer of 2004?  We loved it, not least its anti-Bush subtext.  Unfortunately it had little or no effect on the Republican National Convention -- when the delegates came to town, they did indeed see lots of theatre, but usually the friendly stuff.

Chickens are our cousins! So are fish! So are other sentient animals! Let us learn to be kind.

]]> Break a leg, Kathy!

Well done!  I hope I get to see a performance at some point.

Whether or not by accident, the heroine's first name, "Lyssa," is a real ancient Greek noun.  In the Iliad, it means violent rage.  As a proper noun, it is the name for the hellish goddess who personifies that emotion.  In Euripides' "Heracles," she is sent by Hera to madden the title hero, who murders his wife and children under her influence.

The red-eyed tree frog (from what I can tell) as animal spirit guide (if that is what it is) is an excellent choice.  Polar bears are beginning to be over-used as mascots.

Did you see Nathan Lane's "The Frogs," here in NYC at Alice Tully Hall, the summer of 2004?  We loved it, not least its anti-Bush subtext.  Unfortunately it had little or no effect on the Republican National Convention -- when the delegates came to town, they did indeed see lots of theatre, but usually the friendly stuff.

Chickens are our cousins! So are fish! So are other sentient animals! Let us learn to be kind.

]]> Comment #5 by amazingdrx http://www.grist.org/article/sex-wives-and-climate-change/ Thu, 10 Jan 2008 22:22:34 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/sex-wives-and-climate-change/5 Check it Kathy

Check out the recent thread here on over population that touched on similar themes.  Very illuminating!

http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog

]]> Check it Kathy

Check out the recent thread here on over population that touched on similar themes.  Very illuminating!

http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog

]]> Comment #6 by 314159265 http://www.grist.org/article/sex-wives-and-climate-change/ Fri, 11 Jan 2008 00:07:02 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/sex-wives-and-climate-change/6 I'm a male Lysistrat

I don't refuse sex, but I refuse making children until that AGW (and overpopulation etc. etc.) thing is resolved. I lost 2 girlfriends after I told them about the obscenity of needing to put children into this century. Aah, but there're 3,000,000,000 girls around meanwhile.

]]> I'm a male Lysistrat

I don't refuse sex, but I refuse making children until that AGW (and overpopulation etc. etc.) thing is resolved. I lost 2 girlfriends after I told them about the obscenity of needing to put children into this century. Aah, but there're 3,000,000,000 girls around meanwhile.

]]> Comment #7 by eriqa http://www.grist.org/article/sex-wives-and-climate-change/ Fri, 11 Jan 2008 01:52:28 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/sex-wives-and-climate-change/7 <i>Are</i> there any people...

...who go to see small experimental theater yet are not on board with climate change action?  I would think it's exactly the same group of folks.

]]> <i>Are</i> there any people...

...who go to see small experimental theater yet are not on board with climate change action?  I would think it's exactly the same group of folks.

]]> Comment #8 by kablume http://www.grist.org/article/sex-wives-and-climate-change/ Tue, 15 Jan 2008 06:44:54 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/sex-wives-and-climate-change/8 About The Audience

Eriga,

While many of the people who come to the show already sensitized to the realities of climate change,  in many cases, there is still a rather large gap between knowing that action needs to be taken, and actually taking action.

That gap is usually a product of some combination of overwhelm, inertia, and despair.

The purpose of the show isn't to alert people to the realities of climate change or convince them that it's real.  Al Gore and the media (finally) have done a pretty good job of that.

The goal of the show is to help folks across that gap into a place where they feel inspired to actually go out and take action.

I can't tell you how many people have come up to me after the show and said some combination of A) Thank you for articulating what I've been feeling - I thought I was the only one who felt that way; B) I've known about what was going on, but I haven't done anything yet and now I'm going to; C) I'm going to come back with friends.

I've also had people tell me some time after seeing the show that they finally got around to toting re-usable shopping bags and coffee mugs with them everywhere they go.

Or, as a friend of mine put it when I told her I'd been accused of preaching to the choir, "Even the choir needs a good hymn."

- Kathy

]]> About The Audience

Eriga,

While many of the people who come to the show already sensitized to the realities of climate change,  in many cases, there is still a rather large gap between knowing that action needs to be taken, and actually taking action.

That gap is usually a product of some combination of overwhelm, inertia, and despair.

The purpose of the show isn't to alert people to the realities of climate change or convince them that it's real.  Al Gore and the media (finally) have done a pretty good job of that.

The goal of the show is to help folks across that gap into a place where they feel inspired to actually go out and take action.

I can't tell you how many people have come up to me after the show and said some combination of A) Thank you for articulating what I've been feeling - I thought I was the only one who felt that way; B) I've known about what was going on, but I haven't done anything yet and now I'm going to; C) I'm going to come back with friends.

I've also had people tell me some time after seeing the show that they finally got around to toting re-usable shopping bags and coffee mugs with them everywhere they go.

Or, as a friend of mine put it when I told her I'd been accused of preaching to the choir, "Even the choir needs a good hymn."

- Kathy

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