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            <title>Comment #1 by GreenEngineer</title>
			<link>http://www.grist.org/article/screw-plug-in-hybrid-cars/</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 09:14:43 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>solar flight</strong></p><p>This is ubercool. &nbsp;Sailplanes are definitely the "light footprint" version of personal recreational aviation, but they are traditionally dependent on a conventional tow-plane to get aloft. &nbsp;This breaks that dependency. &nbsp;Extra-tasty!</p>
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				<p><strong>solar flight</strong></p><p>This is ubercool. &nbsp;Sailplanes are definitely the "light footprint" version of personal recreational aviation, but they are traditionally dependent on a conventional tow-plane to get aloft. &nbsp;This breaks that dependency. &nbsp;Extra-tasty!</p>
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            <title>Comment #2 by Biodiversivist</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 10:50:55 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>My bike would short out in the rain<p>until I found a way to seal everything. So far, so good. Throttle would go wide open all of a sudden. 

<p>In the end, it all comes down to biodiversity. <a href="http://www.poisondarts.net" rel="nofollow">Poison Darts--Protecting the biodiversity of our world</a></p></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>My bike would short out in the rain<p>until I found a way to seal everything. So far, so good. Throttle would go wide open all of a sudden. 

<p>In the end, it all comes down to biodiversity. <a href="http://www.poisondarts.net" rel="nofollow">Poison Darts--Protecting the biodiversity of our world</a></p></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #3 by caniscandida</title>
			<link>http://www.grist.org/article/screw-plug-in-hybrid-cars/</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 11:09:46 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>way wrong</strong></p><p>We want to see lots lots more of that dreamy cowboy kid narrator. &nbsp;And if that old guy leaning back in his vehicle has a story to tell, well, perhaps that can be fit somehow into the more important stuff...

<p>Chickens are our cousins!
So are other sensitive animals!
Enough is enough!
No more factory farms!</p></p>
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				<p><strong>way wrong</strong></p><p>We want to see lots lots more of that dreamy cowboy kid narrator. &nbsp;And if that old guy leaning back in his vehicle has a story to tell, well, perhaps that can be fit somehow into the more important stuff...

<p>Chickens are our cousins!
So are other sensitive animals!
Enough is enough!
No more factory farms!</p></p>
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            <title>Comment #4 by Glenn Pew</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 12:02:04 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>from the author</strong></p><p>Thanks for posting my vid, Adam.<br>
... And for the comments, all. </br></p>
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				<p><strong>from the author</strong></p><p>Thanks for posting my vid, Adam.<br>
... And for the comments, all. </br></p>
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            <title>Comment #5 by GreenEngineer</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 12:44:55 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>short circuits</strong></p><p>Throttle would go wide open all of a sudden. </p><p>
Ouch. That can't be much fun. :)</p>
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				<p><strong>short circuits</strong></p><p>Throttle would go wide open all of a sudden. </p><p>
Ouch. That can't be much fun. :)</p>
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            <title>Comment #6 by Biodiversivist</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 13:22:11 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>That's what<p>kill switches are for. Not sure I'd want to fly a sailplane that could catch on fire if it got wet.

<p>In the end, it all comes down to biodiversity. <a href="http://www.poisondarts.net" rel="nofollow">Poison Darts--Protecting the biodiversity of our world</a></p></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>That's what<p>kill switches are for. Not sure I'd want to fly a sailplane that could catch on fire if it got wet.

<p>In the end, it all comes down to biodiversity. <a href="http://www.poisondarts.net" rel="nofollow">Poison Darts--Protecting the biodiversity of our world</a></p></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #7 by Junkk Male2</title>
			<link>http://www.grist.org/article/screw-plug-in-hybrid-cars/</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 18:34:54 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong> Assault on Batteries<p>This is truly inspirational.<p>
I (and, I suspect, a few others - <a href="http://junkk.blogspot.com/2007/04/my-friends-electric-dreams.html" rel="nofollow">http://junkk.blogspot.com/2007/04/my-friends-electric-dre ... ) have had certain concerns on the promotion of electric power as non-polluting.<p>
When it is in this form, aside from the consequences of manufacture, it seems a rare beacon of solar-powered reality in transport. To get a craft charged up, aloft and to its destination with no power input other than the sun is awesome.<p>
It seems viable battery capacity is the only restriction on realising his dream of a 2 or 4-seat version, which is where the practicalities of personal or indeed small-scale cargo (couriers?) transportation kick in.<p>
Now all we need in the UK is the weather. Mind you, looking out the window, and with a certain sense of irony global-warming-wise, that may soon not be such a problem.

<p>Do before you talk. Then share. If it's also fun and inspiring, people will want to read more. They may even be inspired follow your example.</p></p></p></p></a></p></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong> Assault on Batteries<p>This is truly inspirational.<p>
I (and, I suspect, a few others - <a href="http://junkk.blogspot.com/2007/04/my-friends-electric-dreams.html" rel="nofollow">http://junkk.blogspot.com/2007/04/my-friends-electric-dre ... ) have had certain concerns on the promotion of electric power as non-polluting.<p>
When it is in this form, aside from the consequences of manufacture, it seems a rare beacon of solar-powered reality in transport. To get a craft charged up, aloft and to its destination with no power input other than the sun is awesome.<p>
It seems viable battery capacity is the only restriction on realising his dream of a 2 or 4-seat version, which is where the practicalities of personal or indeed small-scale cargo (couriers?) transportation kick in.<p>
Now all we need in the UK is the weather. Mind you, looking out the window, and with a certain sense of irony global-warming-wise, that may soon not be such a problem.

<p>Do before you talk. Then share. If it's also fun and inspiring, people will want to read more. They may even be inspired follow your example.</p></p></p></p></a></p></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #8 by Laurence Aurbach</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 23:03:56 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>more info<p>Eric Raymond's <a href="http://www.solar-flight.com/" rel="nofollow">Solar Flight site has photos and background information. The best source is this article from Aerospace Testing International: <a href="http://www.solar-flight.com/Aerospace%20article.htm" rel="nofollow">Page One, <a href="http://www.solar-flight.com/Aerospace%20article%202.htm" rel="nofollow">Page Two.

<p>http://pedshed.net</p></a></a></a></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>more info<p>Eric Raymond's <a href="http://www.solar-flight.com/" rel="nofollow">Solar Flight site has photos and background information. The best source is this article from Aerospace Testing International: <a href="http://www.solar-flight.com/Aerospace%20article.htm" rel="nofollow">Page One, <a href="http://www.solar-flight.com/Aerospace%20article%202.htm" rel="nofollow">Page Two.

<p>http://pedshed.net</p></a></a></a></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #9 by amazingdrx</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 23:54:57 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Plugin Hybrid Turbofan Aircraft</strong></p><p>Look for solid oxide fuel cell/turbofan plugin hybrid airplanes real soon.</p><p>
The thing is that getting into the air takes a lot of power, cruising not as much. &nbsp;Given a few more generations of batteries their weight will approach the weight of liquid fuel, for the equivalent amount of energy.</p><p>
A hybrid turbofan engine would cruise on battery power. &nbsp;The takeoff would use liquid fuel through solid oxide fuel cells that would generate electricity directly to power the hybrid turbofan.</p><p>
Then the very hot exhaust gases from the solid oxide fuel cell would provide additional power by expanding through the turbine in the turbofan engine. &nbsp;This would yield very high efficiency, several times the efficiency of a normal turbofan aircraft engine.</p><p>
When the aircraft got to cruising altitude the batteries, previously charged on the ground from renewable energy, would take over. &nbsp;</p><p>
Solar panels on the wings? &nbsp;Still too heavy, but who knows? &nbsp;</p><p>
Maybe with an almost lighter than air helium filled silicon bubble aircraft that uses solar heat to climb then glides/flys to it's destination on direct solar electric power? &nbsp;By designing solar concentrators into the structure, solar cells could be 1/10nth the size and weight and operate at 39% efficiency. &nbsp;This efficiency with concentration has been proven at the National Renewable Energy Labratory. </p><p>
A lighter than air foam made from helium filled silicon bubbles has already been developed too. &nbsp;And this silicon compound is extremely strong. &nbsp; 

<p>http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog</p></p>
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				<p><strong>Plugin Hybrid Turbofan Aircraft</strong></p><p>Look for solid oxide fuel cell/turbofan plugin hybrid airplanes real soon.</p><p>
The thing is that getting into the air takes a lot of power, cruising not as much. &nbsp;Given a few more generations of batteries their weight will approach the weight of liquid fuel, for the equivalent amount of energy.</p><p>
A hybrid turbofan engine would cruise on battery power. &nbsp;The takeoff would use liquid fuel through solid oxide fuel cells that would generate electricity directly to power the hybrid turbofan.</p><p>
Then the very hot exhaust gases from the solid oxide fuel cell would provide additional power by expanding through the turbine in the turbofan engine. &nbsp;This would yield very high efficiency, several times the efficiency of a normal turbofan aircraft engine.</p><p>
When the aircraft got to cruising altitude the batteries, previously charged on the ground from renewable energy, would take over. &nbsp;</p><p>
Solar panels on the wings? &nbsp;Still too heavy, but who knows? &nbsp;</p><p>
Maybe with an almost lighter than air helium filled silicon bubble aircraft that uses solar heat to climb then glides/flys to it's destination on direct solar electric power? &nbsp;By designing solar concentrators into the structure, solar cells could be 1/10nth the size and weight and operate at 39% efficiency. &nbsp;This efficiency with concentration has been proven at the National Renewable Energy Labratory. </p><p>
A lighter than air foam made from helium filled silicon bubbles has already been developed too. &nbsp;And this silicon compound is extremely strong. &nbsp; 

<p>http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog</p></p>
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            <title>Comment #10 by amazingdrx</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 00:03:04 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Way cool solar flyers<p><a href="http://www.blazingwings.org/entry/top-12-solar-powered-aircrafts/" rel="nofollow">http://www.blazingwings.org/entry/top-12-solar-powered-ai ...<p>
Maybe solar panels are light enough? &nbsp;Still that 39%, 1/10nth the weight design would really rock!

<p>http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog</p></p></a></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>Way cool solar flyers<p><a href="http://www.blazingwings.org/entry/top-12-solar-powered-aircrafts/" rel="nofollow">http://www.blazingwings.org/entry/top-12-solar-powered-ai ...<p>
Maybe solar panels are light enough? &nbsp;Still that 39%, 1/10nth the weight design would really rock!

<p>http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog</p></p></a></p></strong></p>
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