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            <title>Comment #1 by Biodiversivist</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 15:42:35 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Maybe so.<p>A flock was in my backyard a few days ago. I love robins. They cock their heads to listen for an earthworm moving. We human beings have been drinking alcohol for about 10,000 years. I can imagine the first few thousand years involved a lot of selective pressure. I am the result of ancestors who evolved the ability to hold their liquor. 

<p>In the end, it all comes down to biodiversity. <a href="http://www.poisondarts.net" rel="nofollow">Poison Darts--Protecting the biodiversity of our world</a></p></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>Maybe so.<p>A flock was in my backyard a few days ago. I love robins. They cock their heads to listen for an earthworm moving. We human beings have been drinking alcohol for about 10,000 years. I can imagine the first few thousand years involved a lot of selective pressure. I am the result of ancestors who evolved the ability to hold their liquor. 

<p>In the end, it all comes down to biodiversity. <a href="http://www.poisondarts.net" rel="nofollow">Poison Darts--Protecting the biodiversity of our world</a></p></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #2 by caniscandida</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 07:59:07 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>GW connexion?</strong></p><p>So far this is just an anecdote, but it could be meaningful if a pattern becomes apparent.</p><p>
Birds and mammals do indeed relish eating berries that are fermenting. &nbsp;I did not know that that could be fatal, though. &nbsp;If climate change is producing poisonously fermenting berries to appear just when flocks of robins and other birds are on the move, that would be a very sad development.</p><p>
On happier matters, on my commute between Manhattan and my school a few miles west of the Meadowlands, I observe more crows lately, a noteworthy improvement since crows have been principal victims of West Nile virus.</p><p>
Also, there are over-wintering populations of Canada geese, probably not all-year residents, who like to hang out on grass-planted islands set amidst multi-lane highways, especially around entrances and exits. &nbsp;Perfect: they are contented there, and they are not pooping on anyone's lawn or golf course.

<p>Chickens are our cousins!  So are fish!  So are other sentient animals!  Let us learn to be kind.</p></p>
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				<p><strong>GW connexion?</strong></p><p>So far this is just an anecdote, but it could be meaningful if a pattern becomes apparent.</p><p>
Birds and mammals do indeed relish eating berries that are fermenting. &nbsp;I did not know that that could be fatal, though. &nbsp;If climate change is producing poisonously fermenting berries to appear just when flocks of robins and other birds are on the move, that would be a very sad development.</p><p>
On happier matters, on my commute between Manhattan and my school a few miles west of the Meadowlands, I observe more crows lately, a noteworthy improvement since crows have been principal victims of West Nile virus.</p><p>
Also, there are over-wintering populations of Canada geese, probably not all-year residents, who like to hang out on grass-planted islands set amidst multi-lane highways, especially around entrances and exits. &nbsp;Perfect: they are contented there, and they are not pooping on anyone's lawn or golf course.

<p>Chickens are our cousins!  So are fish!  So are other sentient animals!  Let us learn to be kind.</p></p>
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            <title>Comment #3 by Steve Erickson</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 14:34:29 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Lots of critters get drunk</strong></p><p>I've seen lots of birds fighting over fermented berries. Elephants also get drunk. This is nothing new, though its odd that they died of alcohol poisoning - if that is the cause of death. I think I'd want tot see the results of a serous autopsy before making any conclusions.<br>
And why should bare-skinned primates have all the fun?

<p>Steve E.
Whidbey Environmental Action Network</p></br></p>
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				<p><strong>Lots of critters get drunk</strong></p><p>I've seen lots of birds fighting over fermented berries. Elephants also get drunk. This is nothing new, though its odd that they died of alcohol poisoning - if that is the cause of death. I think I'd want tot see the results of a serous autopsy before making any conclusions.<br>
And why should bare-skinned primates have all the fun?

<p>Steve E.
Whidbey Environmental Action Network</p></br></p>
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