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            <title>Comment #1 by erich</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 20:42:44 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Terra Preta Soils Technology To Master the Carbon<p>&nbsp;Can you please forward this post to Elizabeth Kolbert , she should be most interested.<br>
Thanks<p>
Dear Ms. Kolbert, <p>
I haven't read your book, but had to immediately write to you after your "Talk of the Town" piece in the recent New Yorker. &nbsp;The grasp you have on this problem is unsurpassed for such a short piece. &nbsp;Many of the principals you talk of involved in anthroprogenic global warming I have posted to, but your piece is a target-rich environment for those that I have missed. &nbsp;Thank you for this laundry list that I'll be cleaning up my work with. &nbsp;I have already posted to Exxon, et al, when the news first came out that they dropped AEI support a few weeks ago, it should be interesting when their financial reports are out and we get to see who else and how much they spent. &nbsp;Now the rest of the day I'll be posting to the energy policy people that you highlighted. &nbsp;<p>
I wished to apprise them of this integrated energy and carbon sequestration technology.<p>
After many years of reviewing solutions to anthropogenic global warming (AGW) I believe this technology <br>
can manage Carbon for the greatest collective benefit at the lowest economic price.<p>
Below is my review of these efforts in the &nbsp;Academic and private sectors, please forward this to all the experts you know, if you think it merits their time and support.<p>
Terra Preta Soils Technology To Master the Carbon Cycle <p>
&nbsp;Man has been controlling the carbon cycle , and there for the weather, since the invention of agriculture, all be it was as unintentional, as our current airliner contrails are in affecting global dimming. This unintentional warm stability in climate has over 10,000 years, allowed us to develop to the point that now we know what we did,............ and that now......... we are over doing it. <p>
The prehistoric and historic records gives a logical thrust for soil carbon sequestration. <br>
I wonder what the soil biome carbon concentration was REALLY like before the cutting and burning &nbsp;of the world's virgin &nbsp;forest, my guess is that now we see a severely diminished community, and that only very recent Ag practices like no-till and reforestation have started to help rebuild it. &nbsp;It makes implementing Terra Preta soil technology like an act of penitence, a returning of the misplaced carbon to where it belongs. <p>
&nbsp;Energy, the carbon cycle and greenhouse gas management<br>
<a href="http://www.computare.org/Support%20documents/Fora%20Input/CCC2006/Energy%20Paper%2006_05.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.computare.org/Support%20documents/Fora%20Input ...<p>
On the Scale of CO2 remediation:<p>
It is my understanding that atmospheric CO2 stands at 379 PPM, to stabilize the climate we need to reduce it to 350 PPM by the removal of 230 Billion tons.<p>
The best estimates I've found are that the total loss of forest and soil carbon (combined <br>
pre-industrial and industrial) has been about 200-240 billion tons. &nbsp;Of <br>
that, the soils are estimated to account for about 1/3, and the vegetation <br>
the other 2/3. <p>
Since man controls 24 billion tons in his agriculture then it seems we have plenty to work with in sequestering our fossil fuel CO2 emissions as stable charcoal in the soil.<p>
As Dr. Lehmann at Cornell points out, "Closed-Loop Pyrolysis systems such as Dr. Danny Day's are the only way to make a fuel that is actually carbon negative". and that " a strategy combining biochar with biofuels could ultimately offset 9.5 billion tons of carbon per year-an amount equal to the total current fossil fuel emissions! " <p>
Terra Preta Soils Carbon Negative Bio fuels, massive Carbon sequestration and 3X FertilityToo <p>
This some what orphaned new soil technology speaks to so many different interests and disciplines that it has not been embraced fully by any. &nbsp;I'm sure you will see both the potential of this system and the convergence needed for it's implementation.<p>
The integrated energy strategy offered by Charcoal based Terra Preta Soil technology may<br>
provide the only path to sustain our agricultural and fossil fueled power<br>
structure without climate degradation, other than nuclear power.<p>
The economics look good, and truly great if we had CO2 cap &amp; trade in place: <p>
Terra Preta soils I feel has great possibilities to revolutionize sustainable agriculture into a major CO2 sequestration strategy. <br>
I thought, I first read about these soils in " Botany of Desire " or "Guns,Germs,&amp;Steel" but I could not find reference to them. I finely found the reference in Charles Mann's "1491", but I did not realize their potential .<p>
Nature article: Putting the carbon back Black is the new green: &nbsp;<br>
<a href="http://bestenergies.com/downloads/naturemag_200604.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://bestenergies.com/downloads/naturemag_200604.pdf</a></br></p></br></p></p></br></br></p></p></p></p></p></br></br></br></p></p></p></a></br></p></br></p></p></p></p></br></p></p></p></p></br></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>Terra Preta Soils Technology To Master the Carbon<p>&nbsp;Can you please forward this post to Elizabeth Kolbert , she should be most interested.<br>
Thanks<p>
Dear Ms. Kolbert, <p>
I haven't read your book, but had to immediately write to you after your "Talk of the Town" piece in the recent New Yorker. &nbsp;The grasp you have on this problem is unsurpassed for such a short piece. &nbsp;Many of the principals you talk of involved in anthroprogenic global warming I have posted to, but your piece is a target-rich environment for those that I have missed. &nbsp;Thank you for this laundry list that I'll be cleaning up my work with. &nbsp;I have already posted to Exxon, et al, when the news first came out that they dropped AEI support a few weeks ago, it should be interesting when their financial reports are out and we get to see who else and how much they spent. &nbsp;Now the rest of the day I'll be posting to the energy policy people that you highlighted. &nbsp;<p>
I wished to apprise them of this integrated energy and carbon sequestration technology.<p>
After many years of reviewing solutions to anthropogenic global warming (AGW) I believe this technology <br>
can manage Carbon for the greatest collective benefit at the lowest economic price.<p>
Below is my review of these efforts in the &nbsp;Academic and private sectors, please forward this to all the experts you know, if you think it merits their time and support.<p>
Terra Preta Soils Technology To Master the Carbon Cycle <p>
&nbsp;Man has been controlling the carbon cycle , and there for the weather, since the invention of agriculture, all be it was as unintentional, as our current airliner contrails are in affecting global dimming. This unintentional warm stability in climate has over 10,000 years, allowed us to develop to the point that now we know what we did,............ and that now......... we are over doing it. <p>
The prehistoric and historic records gives a logical thrust for soil carbon sequestration. <br>
I wonder what the soil biome carbon concentration was REALLY like before the cutting and burning &nbsp;of the world's virgin &nbsp;forest, my guess is that now we see a severely diminished community, and that only very recent Ag practices like no-till and reforestation have started to help rebuild it. &nbsp;It makes implementing Terra Preta soil technology like an act of penitence, a returning of the misplaced carbon to where it belongs. <p>
&nbsp;Energy, the carbon cycle and greenhouse gas management<br>
<a href="http://www.computare.org/Support%20documents/Fora%20Input/CCC2006/Energy%20Paper%2006_05.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.computare.org/Support%20documents/Fora%20Input ...<p>
On the Scale of CO2 remediation:<p>
It is my understanding that atmospheric CO2 stands at 379 PPM, to stabilize the climate we need to reduce it to 350 PPM by the removal of 230 Billion tons.<p>
The best estimates I've found are that the total loss of forest and soil carbon (combined <br>
pre-industrial and industrial) has been about 200-240 billion tons. &nbsp;Of <br>
that, the soils are estimated to account for about 1/3, and the vegetation <br>
the other 2/3. <p>
Since man controls 24 billion tons in his agriculture then it seems we have plenty to work with in sequestering our fossil fuel CO2 emissions as stable charcoal in the soil.<p>
As Dr. Lehmann at Cornell points out, "Closed-Loop Pyrolysis systems such as Dr. Danny Day's are the only way to make a fuel that is actually carbon negative". and that " a strategy combining biochar with biofuels could ultimately offset 9.5 billion tons of carbon per year-an amount equal to the total current fossil fuel emissions! " <p>
Terra Preta Soils Carbon Negative Bio fuels, massive Carbon sequestration and 3X FertilityToo <p>
This some what orphaned new soil technology speaks to so many different interests and disciplines that it has not been embraced fully by any. &nbsp;I'm sure you will see both the potential of this system and the convergence needed for it's implementation.<p>
The integrated energy strategy offered by Charcoal based Terra Preta Soil technology may<br>
provide the only path to sustain our agricultural and fossil fueled power<br>
structure without climate degradation, other than nuclear power.<p>
The economics look good, and truly great if we had CO2 cap &amp; trade in place: <p>
Terra Preta soils I feel has great possibilities to revolutionize sustainable agriculture into a major CO2 sequestration strategy. <br>
I thought, I first read about these soils in " Botany of Desire " or "Guns,Germs,&amp;Steel" but I could not find reference to them. I finely found the reference in Charles Mann's "1491", but I did not realize their potential .<p>
Nature article: Putting the carbon back Black is the new green: &nbsp;<br>
<a href="http://bestenergies.com/downloads/naturemag_200604.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://bestenergies.com/downloads/naturemag_200604.pdf</a></br></p></br></p></p></br></br></p></p></p></p></p></br></br></br></p></p></p></a></br></p></br></p></p></p></p></br></p></p></p></p></br></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #2 by dannybee</title>
			<link>http://www.grist.org/article/roberts9/</link>
			<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2007 15:20:12 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Planning for future polar cities now<p>great interview, and the reasons why people are not doing much NOW is a very good answer. One thing nobody seems to be talking about, David and Elizabth, is Lovelock's proposal about the need to start THINKING about building and planning polar cities NOW, since we might need them in the year 2500 or soon. See my blog info here: <a href="http://climatechange3000.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://climatechange3000.blogspot.com<p>
i feel we should be planning, even constructing these polar buildings, underground, NOW. Before it is too late. But as Elizabth says, people cannot act on this, the future is too far away. But look, it's coming closer every day. As we get in our cars and turn on the CO2 spigot again and again.....<p>
Shouldn't governments and the UN be talking about planning polar cities NOW, for the remnants of humanity to ride out the coming global winter, and then, later, repopulate the Earth? Why the silence on this?</p></p></a></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>Planning for future polar cities now<p>great interview, and the reasons why people are not doing much NOW is a very good answer. One thing nobody seems to be talking about, David and Elizabth, is Lovelock's proposal about the need to start THINKING about building and planning polar cities NOW, since we might need them in the year 2500 or soon. See my blog info here: <a href="http://climatechange3000.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://climatechange3000.blogspot.com<p>
i feel we should be planning, even constructing these polar buildings, underground, NOW. Before it is too late. But as Elizabth says, people cannot act on this, the future is too far away. But look, it's coming closer every day. As we get in our cars and turn on the CO2 spigot again and again.....<p>
Shouldn't governments and the UN be talking about planning polar cities NOW, for the remnants of humanity to ride out the coming global winter, and then, later, repopulate the Earth? Why the silence on this?</p></p></a></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #3 by dannybee</title>
			<link>http://www.grist.org/article/roberts9/</link>
			<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2007 15:28:08 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Vonnegut poem</strong></p><p>from a poem written by the late Kurt Vonnegut , RIP, called "Requiem,"which has these closing lines:</p><p>
...When the last living thing has died on account of us,</p><p>
how poetical it would be</p><p>
if Earth could say,</p><p>
in a voice floating upwards</p><p>
from the floor of the Grand Canyon,</p><p>
"It is done."</p><p>
People did not like it here.</p>
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				<p><strong>Vonnegut poem</strong></p><p>from a poem written by the late Kurt Vonnegut , RIP, called "Requiem,"which has these closing lines:</p><p>
...When the last living thing has died on account of us,</p><p>
how poetical it would be</p><p>
if Earth could say,</p><p>
in a voice floating upwards</p><p>
from the floor of the Grand Canyon,</p><p>
"It is done."</p><p>
People did not like it here.</p>
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