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            <title>Comment #1 by ffletcher</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 18:09:57 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Interesting Topic</strong></p><p>In addition to the voltage reduction it is possible to reduce overal demand by reducing the frequency. &nbsp;Frequency reduction has the addition benefit of adding power into the grid. &nbsp;The energy returned to the grid is related to the mass of the spinning turbines and rotors connected to the grid, which can be quite substantial. Typically a system expresses this term in units of MW per .1 Hz deviation.</p>
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				<p><strong>Interesting Topic</strong></p><p>In addition to the voltage reduction it is possible to reduce overal demand by reducing the frequency. &nbsp;Frequency reduction has the addition benefit of adding power into the grid. &nbsp;The energy returned to the grid is related to the mass of the spinning turbines and rotors connected to the grid, which can be quite substantial. Typically a system expresses this term in units of MW per .1 Hz deviation.</p>
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            <title>Comment #2 by Sam Wells</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2007 04:14:29 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Brown-outs</strong></p><p>One of the worst situations was on the outer islands of the Bahamas, which were run by the Bahamian Electric Company. &nbsp;Because of development the little network of diesel generators and transformers quickly became overloaded. &nbsp;Black-outs happened, which is why most residences have their own generators. &nbsp;But the brown-outs were worse, since they de-rated voltage, frequency, and all kinds of things in an effort to keep electricity flowing. &nbsp;This proved to be disastrous.</p><p>
Air conditioners, washing machines, driers, electric ranges, and all sorts of stuff caught fire or simply blew their motors. &nbsp;Wires melted. &nbsp;Low voltage conditions can actually be worse than a power surge, it turns out.</p><p>
Bahamians quickly became excellent little electricians, knowing how to wire a house with surge protectors for lightning strikes and low voltage alarm systems; even the lowliest knew to unplug large electrical appliances or turn off the circuit breakers when away from the house. &nbsp;They figured out how to integrate small generators so power could be fed to the right stuff at the right kW ratings. &nbsp;</p><p>
It's amazing how dumb the average American is about electricity. &nbsp;Get a windmill or a solar panel and you'll be fascinated by how it all works. &nbsp;If 10,000 Abaconians in the out islands can do it with no more than a high school education, I'm sure we can manage ...<br>
/sammie

<p>Onward through the fog</p></br></p>
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				<p><strong>Brown-outs</strong></p><p>One of the worst situations was on the outer islands of the Bahamas, which were run by the Bahamian Electric Company. &nbsp;Because of development the little network of diesel generators and transformers quickly became overloaded. &nbsp;Black-outs happened, which is why most residences have their own generators. &nbsp;But the brown-outs were worse, since they de-rated voltage, frequency, and all kinds of things in an effort to keep electricity flowing. &nbsp;This proved to be disastrous.</p><p>
Air conditioners, washing machines, driers, electric ranges, and all sorts of stuff caught fire or simply blew their motors. &nbsp;Wires melted. &nbsp;Low voltage conditions can actually be worse than a power surge, it turns out.</p><p>
Bahamians quickly became excellent little electricians, knowing how to wire a house with surge protectors for lightning strikes and low voltage alarm systems; even the lowliest knew to unplug large electrical appliances or turn off the circuit breakers when away from the house. &nbsp;They figured out how to integrate small generators so power could be fed to the right stuff at the right kW ratings. &nbsp;</p><p>
It's amazing how dumb the average American is about electricity. &nbsp;Get a windmill or a solar panel and you'll be fascinated by how it all works. &nbsp;If 10,000 Abaconians in the out islands can do it with no more than a high school education, I'm sure we can manage ...<br>
/sammie

<p>Onward through the fog</p></br></p>
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            <title>Comment #3 by Delay And Deny</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2007 06:17:45 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Hot and muggy in Pennsylvania!  AMAZING!<p><br>
Wow! &nbsp;You visited Pennsylvania in August and found temperatures <b>soaring into the 90s...and it was humid!<p>
Stop the presses!<p>
Oh, and electricity grid was failing.<p>
Gee -- that just sounds like everything I remember about the East Coast since moving here to Kent, WA!

<p>John Bailo<br>
<a href="http://sutext.texeme.com" rel="nofollow">Sutext:</a></br></p></p></p></p></b></br></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>Hot and muggy in Pennsylvania!  AMAZING!<p><br>
Wow! &nbsp;You visited Pennsylvania in August and found temperatures <b>soaring into the 90s...and it was humid!<p>
Stop the presses!<p>
Oh, and electricity grid was failing.<p>
Gee -- that just sounds like everything I remember about the East Coast since moving here to Kent, WA!

<p>John Bailo<br>
<a href="http://sutext.texeme.com" rel="nofollow">Sutext:</a></br></p></p></p></p></b></br></p></strong></p>
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