<![CDATA[Grist - Comment Feed for National Biodiesel Board opens green building in Jefferson City, Mo.]]> Grist Comment Feed en Comment #1 by Jon Rynn http://www.grist.org/article/read-it-and-weep/ Fri, 12 Sep 2008 04:00:11 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/read-it-and-weep/1 So they replaced one day?

20 million barrels of petroleum for the entire biodiesel industry is the same as the daily use of petroleum in the US, so they contributed a whopping 1/365th of oil use! And since there are over 200 million cars, 700,000 vehciles is another monster 1/3rd of one percent.

]]> So they replaced one day?

20 million barrels of petroleum for the entire biodiesel industry is the same as the daily use of petroleum in the US, so they contributed a whopping 1/365th of oil use! And since there are over 200 million cars, 700,000 vehciles is another monster 1/3rd of one percent.

]]> Comment #2 by Colin Wright http://www.grist.org/article/read-it-and-weep/ Fri, 12 Sep 2008 04:50:51 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/read-it-and-weep/2 And did they really?

And of course the question is, how much of that 20 mb actually displaced oil? How much oil and other energy went into making that biodiesel? Or are we just converting precious natural gas into biodiesel? Or are we displacing tropical forests by diverting food-soy to fuel-soy?

]]> And did they really?

And of course the question is, how much of that 20 mb actually displaced oil? How much oil and other energy went into making that biodiesel? Or are we just converting precious natural gas into biodiesel? Or are we displacing tropical forests by diverting food-soy to fuel-soy?

]]> Comment #3 by jackstraw http://www.grist.org/article/read-it-and-weep/ Fri, 12 Sep 2008 08:17:27 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/read-it-and-weep/3 This is really cool.

Glad that Gov. Blunt is making an effort to make my home state green. This will be part of an excellent legacy. It's up to the states - for now at least - to do all they can to push for alternative energies, and Blunt should be lauded for this achievement.

]]> This is really cool.

Glad that Gov. Blunt is making an effort to make my home state green. This will be part of an excellent legacy. It's up to the states - for now at least - to do all they can to push for alternative energies, and Blunt should be lauded for this achievement.

]]> Comment #4 by Biodiversivist http://www.grist.org/article/read-it-and-weep/ Sat, 13 Sep 2008 03:02:28 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/read-it-and-weep/4 Pants on fire!

"Our industry plays a critical role nationally in meeting our energy needs, creating thousands of green jobs and millions of gallons of clean-burning fuel.

Critical role nationally? A significant portion of biodiesel produced here was shipped overseas as part of the splash and dash scam.

Meeting our energy needs? Two tenths of one percent of petroleum use, and it took how many acres and raised the price of cooking oil how much to do that?

Thousands of green jobs? Doing what? Working in biodiesel refineries?

Clean burning fuel? According to the EPA, everyone out there who opted to purchase a new Jetta to burn biodiesel instead of a new SLEV spews more pollution into the atmosphere, not to mention is exacerbating global warming by exacerbating the record destruction of the Amazon from soy farms.

Its use reduces emissions, including lifecycle carbon dioxide, by 78 percent.

78 percent is from the ancient study done by the USDA for soy. Crop displacement effects were not considered, and the whole goal was to increase the price of soy, which succeeded beyond their wildest dreams. Great if you are a soy farmer. Sucks for every other human on the planet.

I truly believe ....

As did the cowardly lion when he said, "I do believe in ghosts, I do believe in ghosts..."

oil and gasoline prices would be about 15% higher if biofuel producers were not increasing their output, according to a U.S. Department of Energy estimate.

How could an increase in supply of 2% drop prices 15%, especially when every gallon blended cost taxpayers a dollar for biodiesel and 51 cents for ethanol? I have never been able to find the calculations for that "estimate."

In the end, it all comes down to biodiversity. Poison Darts--Protecting the biodiversity of our world


]]> Pants on fire!

"Our industry plays a critical role nationally in meeting our energy needs, creating thousands of green jobs and millions of gallons of clean-burning fuel.

Critical role nationally? A significant portion of biodiesel produced here was shipped overseas as part of the splash and dash scam.

Meeting our energy needs? Two tenths of one percent of petroleum use, and it took how many acres and raised the price of cooking oil how much to do that?

Thousands of green jobs? Doing what? Working in biodiesel refineries?

Clean burning fuel? According to the EPA, everyone out there who opted to purchase a new Jetta to burn biodiesel instead of a new SLEV spews more pollution into the atmosphere, not to mention is exacerbating global warming by exacerbating the record destruction of the Amazon from soy farms.

Its use reduces emissions, including lifecycle carbon dioxide, by 78 percent.

78 percent is from the ancient study done by the USDA for soy. Crop displacement effects were not considered, and the whole goal was to increase the price of soy, which succeeded beyond their wildest dreams. Great if you are a soy farmer. Sucks for every other human on the planet.

I truly believe ....

As did the cowardly lion when he said, "I do believe in ghosts, I do believe in ghosts..."

oil and gasoline prices would be about 15% higher if biofuel producers were not increasing their output, according to a U.S. Department of Energy estimate.

How could an increase in supply of 2% drop prices 15%, especially when every gallon blended cost taxpayers a dollar for biodiesel and 51 cents for ethanol? I have never been able to find the calculations for that "estimate."

In the end, it all comes down to biodiversity. Poison Darts--Protecting the biodiversity of our world


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