<![CDATA[Grist - Comment Feed for Winning the battle in Bali, and then winning the war]]> Grist Comment Feed en Comment #1 by stevenearlsalmony http://www.grist.org/article/rational-expectations/ Mon, 03 Dec 2007 10:24:31 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/rational-expectations/1 A sad, pitiless situation..................

..............with apparently no articulated, economically profitable remedies presented by the managers of the global economy for addressing the distinctly human-induced predicament that is presented to humanity in our time by climate change.

Steven Earl Salmony, Ph.D., M.P.A.
AWAREness Campaign on The Human Population
http://sustainabilitysoutheast.org/

]]> A sad, pitiless situation..................

..............with apparently no articulated, economically profitable remedies presented by the managers of the global economy for addressing the distinctly human-induced predicament that is presented to humanity in our time by climate change.

Steven Earl Salmony, Ph.D., M.P.A.
AWAREness Campaign on The Human Population
http://sustainabilitysoutheast.org/

]]> Comment #2 by rbsimon http://www.grist.org/article/rational-expectations/ Mon, 03 Dec 2007 10:29:35 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/rational-expectations/2 Climate Crimes Against Humanity

The Bush Administration has allowed global climate change to proceed, unimpeded - and even encouraged the melting of the polar icecaps, regardless of the devastation that coastal flooding, intensifying storm energy, changing disease vectors and migrating cvlimate patterns will wreak on the world's human population. They have systematically suppressed scientific understanding; poisoned the well of public discourse; obfuscated the true nature and causes of the crisis; and used American power and influence to subvert global action.

http://scorpionbowl.blogspot.com/2007/12/climate-crimes-a ...

]]> Climate Crimes Against Humanity

The Bush Administration has allowed global climate change to proceed, unimpeded - and even encouraged the melting of the polar icecaps, regardless of the devastation that coastal flooding, intensifying storm energy, changing disease vectors and migrating cvlimate patterns will wreak on the world's human population. They have systematically suppressed scientific understanding; poisoned the well of public discourse; obfuscated the true nature and causes of the crisis; and used American power and influence to subvert global action.

http://scorpionbowl.blogspot.com/2007/12/climate-crimes-a ...

]]> Comment #3 by stevenearlsalmony http://www.grist.org/article/rational-expectations/ Mon, 03 Dec 2007 10:49:15 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/rational-expectations/3 Telling the truth, as you see it..................

..........is a wondrous thing to do.  No posing, parsing, spinning or speaking with a forked tongue.

Many thanks to R.B. Simon,

Steve Salmony

]]> Telling the truth, as you see it..................

..........is a wondrous thing to do.  No posing, parsing, spinning or speaking with a forked tongue.

Many thanks to R.B. Simon,

Steve Salmony

]]> Comment #4 by Colin Wright http://www.grist.org/article/rational-expectations/ Mon, 03 Dec 2007 11:42:27 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/rational-expectations/4 The spirit of N30 and the WTO protests lives on!

I thought the IPS/IFG document was fantastic. (Where do we sign?) My feeling is that the "triple threat" dangers of peak oil, climate change and resource depletion together make a much more powerful argument for producing a global movement that can realistically tackle the problems we face.

I appreciate Tom's frank and insightful comments on where we stand in Bali. Small steps can be profoundly important, particularly if they set the stage for later fundamental change.

]]> The spirit of N30 and the WTO protests lives on!

I thought the IPS/IFG document was fantastic. (Where do we sign?) My feeling is that the "triple threat" dangers of peak oil, climate change and resource depletion together make a much more powerful argument for producing a global movement that can realistically tackle the problems we face.

I appreciate Tom's frank and insightful comments on where we stand in Bali. Small steps can be profoundly important, particularly if they set the stage for later fundamental change.

]]> Comment #5 by GRLCowan http://www.grist.org/article/rational-expectations/ Mon, 03 Dec 2007 12:12:18 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/rational-expectations/5 A lot of work for a little molecule

Creating deeper binding targets, create new rules, incentives, and institutions, create new global mechanisms ... what fun. How pedestrian it would be the putative objective of all that fun hardhat-free activity were accomplished by physically removing a suitable amount of CO2 from the atmosphere.

--- G.R.L. Cowan, hydrogen-to-boron convert
How shall cars gain nuclear cachet?

]]> A lot of work for a little molecule

Creating deeper binding targets, create new rules, incentives, and institutions, create new global mechanisms ... what fun. How pedestrian it would be the putative objective of all that fun hardhat-free activity were accomplished by physically removing a suitable amount of CO2 from the atmosphere.

--- G.R.L. Cowan, hydrogen-to-boron convert
How shall cars gain nuclear cachet?

]]> Comment #6 by stevenearlsalmony http://www.grist.org/article/rational-expectations/ Wed, 05 Dec 2007 23:41:41 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/rational-expectations/6 Thanks to you for rational proposals............

.........in a currently unreal world order dominated by unbridled, soon to be patently unsustainable economic globalization.

Dear Colleagues of the Scientific Consensus on Climate Change and Delegates to the Bali Meeting,

I like everything about what you are thinking, proposing and doing. Let me add here that your views and plans for action appear to be ones that many people will soon come to understand and appreciate.

What worries me is how much time it takes for people to share long-range views like yours and to adopt farsighted proposals like the ones you are putting forward because the necessary changes that are in store for "the masters of the universe" -- the leaders who rule the global political economy in its current, patently unsustainable form -- will find such changes categorically unacceptable. The masters of the universe among us have made it quite clear through their primary positive regard and relentless protection of unbridled global economic growth, now rampantly overspreading the surface of Earth, that they would rather see life as we know it obliterated than limit, as well as share with others, their wealth, power and privileges, I suppose.

Always,

Steve

Steven Earl Salmony, Ph.D., M.P.A.
AWAREness Campaign on The Human Population
http://sustainabilitysoutheast.org/



]]> Thanks to you for rational proposals............

.........in a currently unreal world order dominated by unbridled, soon to be patently unsustainable economic globalization.

Dear Colleagues of the Scientific Consensus on Climate Change and Delegates to the Bali Meeting,

I like everything about what you are thinking, proposing and doing. Let me add here that your views and plans for action appear to be ones that many people will soon come to understand and appreciate.

What worries me is how much time it takes for people to share long-range views like yours and to adopt farsighted proposals like the ones you are putting forward because the necessary changes that are in store for "the masters of the universe" -- the leaders who rule the global political economy in its current, patently unsustainable form -- will find such changes categorically unacceptable. The masters of the universe among us have made it quite clear through their primary positive regard and relentless protection of unbridled global economic growth, now rampantly overspreading the surface of Earth, that they would rather see life as we know it obliterated than limit, as well as share with others, their wealth, power and privileges, I suppose.

Always,

Steve

Steven Earl Salmony, Ph.D., M.P.A.
AWAREness Campaign on The Human Population
http://sustainabilitysoutheast.org/



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