<![CDATA[Grist - Comment Feed for How expensive is food, really?]]> Grist Comment Feed en Comment #1 by Pompey Road http://www.grist.org/article/putting-your-money-where-your-mouth-is/ Mon, 14 Apr 2008 10:51:33 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/putting-your-money-where-your-mouth-is/1 Let the market rule

Stop all farm subsidy and for corn ethanol. sorghum will relpace corn and is not an important food stock. It is just as efficient as an ethanol fuel.

Quit giving away grain while other countries are charging an arm and a leg for it. When the price of a bushel of wheat and corn gets close to what a price of oil is we will be able to get off the dollar standard and really have something to barter with.

The eons of time and nature was good to us down here. It was not until we become civilized that destroying our habitat become fathomable or fashionable.

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Stop all farm subsidy and for corn ethanol. sorghum will relpace corn and is not an important food stock. It is just as efficient as an ethanol fuel.

Quit giving away grain while other countries are charging an arm and a leg for it. When the price of a bushel of wheat and corn gets close to what a price of oil is we will be able to get off the dollar standard and really have something to barter with.

The eons of time and nature was good to us down here. It was not until we become civilized that destroying our habitat become fathomable or fashionable.

]]> Comment #2 by Bart Anderson http://www.grist.org/article/putting-your-money-where-your-mouth-is/ Mon, 14 Apr 2008 16:24:23 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/putting-your-money-where-your-mouth-is/2 Good to see Sharon here

Sharon Astyk is one of my favorite writers on food, sustainability and energy. This essay shows her serious side, but most of her posts at Casaubon's Book are spiced with humor and personal insights.

Two of her books are coming out soon. Highly recommended.

Bart
Energy Bulletin

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Sharon Astyk is one of my favorite writers on food, sustainability and energy. This essay shows her serious side, but most of her posts at Casaubon's Book are spiced with humor and personal insights.

Two of her books are coming out soon. Highly recommended.

Bart
Energy Bulletin

]]> Comment #3 by Erik Hoffner http://www.grist.org/article/putting-your-money-where-your-mouth-is/ Mon, 14 Apr 2008 23:48:19 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/putting-your-money-where-your-mouth-is/3 ag

That's the nicest portrait of serfhood I've ever read. Actually doesn't sound quite bad.

I agree on the principle that we don't pay enough for our food. The two organic farms I apprenticed on in the late 90s both went under in short order after I left, and I think it's due as much in part to low food prices as it is to any mismanagement or bad luck I brought.

Saddens me to think about all the work that went into building that soil, and the lost talent of the farmer-owners, one of which is a long distance truck driver now.

Erik

The Orion Grassroots Network: 1,200+ grassroots groups working for conservation & more

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That's the nicest portrait of serfhood I've ever read. Actually doesn't sound quite bad.

I agree on the principle that we don't pay enough for our food. The two organic farms I apprenticed on in the late 90s both went under in short order after I left, and I think it's due as much in part to low food prices as it is to any mismanagement or bad luck I brought.

Saddens me to think about all the work that went into building that soil, and the lost talent of the farmer-owners, one of which is a long distance truck driver now.

Erik

The Orion Grassroots Network: 1,200+ grassroots groups working for conservation & more

]]> Comment #4 by johnmcc793 http://www.grist.org/article/putting-your-money-where-your-mouth-is/ Tue, 15 Apr 2008 03:15:05 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/putting-your-money-where-your-mouth-is/4 The silence of NRDC

Where is the moral backbone over at NRDC?

Oh, yeah.  They are using it to condemn coal-to-liquids.

Not any mention of the global food crisis in the poorest countries and the related-US corn to ethanol obsession.

Environmentalists who climbed aboard the corn to ethanol hype wagon will never have to answer for the mayhem and suffering they have encouraged through their support for this "crime against humanity"  a quote form Jean Ziegler, UN Special rapporteur On the Right to Food.

NRDC cannot say it did not see this food crisis coming.  

Speak up NRDC or live with the shame you and other corn-to-ethanol supporting groups (including Democratic members of Congress) will bring upon each of you.

SPEAK UP NRDC and tell the Congress this ethanol subsidy is killing inocent poor and elderly.

John McCormick

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Where is the moral backbone over at NRDC?

Oh, yeah.  They are using it to condemn coal-to-liquids.

Not any mention of the global food crisis in the poorest countries and the related-US corn to ethanol obsession.

Environmentalists who climbed aboard the corn to ethanol hype wagon will never have to answer for the mayhem and suffering they have encouraged through their support for this "crime against humanity"  a quote form Jean Ziegler, UN Special rapporteur On the Right to Food.

NRDC cannot say it did not see this food crisis coming.  

Speak up NRDC or live with the shame you and other corn-to-ethanol supporting groups (including Democratic members of Congress) will bring upon each of you.

SPEAK UP NRDC and tell the Congress this ethanol subsidy is killing inocent poor and elderly.

John McCormick

]]> Comment #5 by ccdangelo http://www.grist.org/article/putting-your-money-where-your-mouth-is/ Tue, 15 Apr 2008 12:25:02 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/putting-your-money-where-your-mouth-is/5 Great article

Thanks for a great article.  Too many people I talk to think that industrial agriculture helps the poor...but it hurts all of us.

My blog about Christian Environmental Ethics - yup, Jesus was a tree-hugger. http://www.jesusandtheorangutan.wordpress.com

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Thanks for a great article.  Too many people I talk to think that industrial agriculture helps the poor...but it hurts all of us.

My blog about Christian Environmental Ethics - yup, Jesus was a tree-hugger. http://www.jesusandtheorangutan.wordpress.com

]]> Comment #6 by jkongs http://www.grist.org/article/putting-your-money-where-your-mouth-is/ Tue, 15 Apr 2008 14:20:25 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/putting-your-money-where-your-mouth-is/6 Oily Situation

Thanks for such a great, in-depth look at our current predicaments in agriculture.  I think the ties with our future food security and oil prices are also interesting, especially to a promoter of local foods like myself.  A good overview of the concerns can be found here.

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Thanks for such a great, in-depth look at our current predicaments in agriculture.  I think the ties with our future food security and oil prices are also interesting, especially to a promoter of local foods like myself.  A good overview of the concerns can be found here.

]]> Comment #7 by Matt http://www.grist.org/article/putting-your-money-where-your-mouth-is/ Wed, 16 Apr 2008 05:04:51 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/putting-your-money-where-your-mouth-is/7 Serfdom

I found the comments about being a serf amusing...

Are we any better off now? Landlords and banks own our houses and they are just as inflexible and unsympathetic as any feudal lord. Granted there is less chopping of heads, but the end result is the same; we spend most of our time working for someone else's profit.

If you continue to do what you've always done you'll continue to get what you've always got. - Yogi Berra

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I found the comments about being a serf amusing...

Are we any better off now? Landlords and banks own our houses and they are just as inflexible and unsympathetic as any feudal lord. Granted there is less chopping of heads, but the end result is the same; we spend most of our time working for someone else's profit.

If you continue to do what you've always done you'll continue to get what you've always got. - Yogi Berra

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