<![CDATA[Grist - Comment Feed for HSA waives environmental and social laws to keep the Mexicans out]]> Grist Comment Feed en Comment #1 by jadedthea http://www.grist.org/article/protecting-the-homeland/ Tue, 23 Oct 2007 12:28:12 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/protecting-the-homeland/1 false tradeoffs

Wow, he has time to run a war and destroy unique ripiarian habitat in an otherwise arid region - quite the multitasker. Jaguars are also supported by that habitat -- but I guess they are more charismatic than lizards and thus a bad soundbite to toss about while putting forth jingoistic arguments for trumping the rule of law.

~summer~

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Wow, he has time to run a war and destroy unique ripiarian habitat in an otherwise arid region - quite the multitasker. Jaguars are also supported by that habitat -- but I guess they are more charismatic than lizards and thus a bad soundbite to toss about while putting forth jingoistic arguments for trumping the rule of law.

~summer~

]]> Comment #2 by Biodiversivist http://www.grist.org/article/protecting-the-homeland/ Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:23:00 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/protecting-the-homeland/2 There is going to be a run on 11 foot tall ladders

the day that 10 foot wall gets finished.

In the end, it all comes down to biodiversity. Poison Darts--Protecting the biodiversity of our world

]]> There is going to be a run on 11 foot tall ladders

the day that 10 foot wall gets finished.

In the end, it all comes down to biodiversity. Poison Darts--Protecting the biodiversity of our world

]]> Comment #3 by caniscandida http://www.grist.org/article/protecting-the-homeland/ Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:01:01 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/protecting-the-homeland/3 charisma-rama

You want charisma?  Sure, jaguars are swell, but there is hardly a creature in the world as beautiful, elegant and cute all at once as the ocelot.  And the little bit that is left of its historic range in South Texas is directly threatened by the border fence.  See the part on the Lower Rio Grande Valley National Wildlife Refuge in this report from Defenders of Wildlife:

http://www.defenders.org/programs_and_policy/habitat_cons ...

Chickens are our cousins! So are fish! So are other sentient animals! Let us learn to be kind.

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You want charisma?  Sure, jaguars are swell, but there is hardly a creature in the world as beautiful, elegant and cute all at once as the ocelot.  And the little bit that is left of its historic range in South Texas is directly threatened by the border fence.  See the part on the Lower Rio Grande Valley National Wildlife Refuge in this report from Defenders of Wildlife:

http://www.defenders.org/programs_and_policy/habitat_cons ...

Chickens are our cousins! So are fish! So are other sentient animals! Let us learn to be kind.

]]> Comment #4 by meander http://www.grist.org/article/protecting-the-homeland/ Wed, 24 Oct 2007 01:01:02 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/protecting-the-homeland/4 The fence and human lives

One of the purposes of the fence is to make the journey harder for migrants by pushing them deeper into the desert.  The theory is that fewer will try.  The reality will be that more will die.  

A fence does nothing to fix the tremendous economic problems in Mexico.  It does nothing to stop the big meat packers from hiring undocumented immigrants. It's all a big show to make the xenophobic wing of the GOP happy, and also a chance to waive some laws.

How long before we hear that drilling in ANWR is a matter of national security, and therefore the national wildlife refuge act can be waived?

--- meander

]]> The fence and human lives

One of the purposes of the fence is to make the journey harder for migrants by pushing them deeper into the desert.  The theory is that fewer will try.  The reality will be that more will die.  

A fence does nothing to fix the tremendous economic problems in Mexico.  It does nothing to stop the big meat packers from hiring undocumented immigrants. It's all a big show to make the xenophobic wing of the GOP happy, and also a chance to waive some laws.

How long before we hear that drilling in ANWR is a matter of national security, and therefore the national wildlife refuge act can be waived?

--- meander

]]> Comment #5 by Storm Dragon http://www.grist.org/article/protecting-the-homeland/ Wed, 31 Oct 2007 08:39:13 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/protecting-the-homeland/5 Where do we go from here?

What Michael Chertoff did was disgusting-I think we all agree on that.  The question is, what should we do to counter this unconscionable move?  Would it be worthwhile to sue the Department of Homeland Security, on the grounds that, by failing to safeguard our wild places and wildlife, the Department is shortchanging the American people?  Or is nonviolent direct action the best option left?  What other possibilities might there be?

Let the jaguars return!

]]> Where do we go from here?

What Michael Chertoff did was disgusting-I think we all agree on that.  The question is, what should we do to counter this unconscionable move?  Would it be worthwhile to sue the Department of Homeland Security, on the grounds that, by failing to safeguard our wild places and wildlife, the Department is shortchanging the American people?  Or is nonviolent direct action the best option left?  What other possibilities might there be?

Let the jaguars return!

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