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            <title>Comment #1 by Russ</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 06:05:05 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Yup.....</strong></p><p>Yup, that's right-wingers for you. </p><p>
Their standard position is self-evident "absolute morality" and "law and order", and anyone who would suggest there's anything more to it is just a weenie liberal.</p><p>
But let the moral and legal violations be uncovered among their own operatives, and suddenly they turn into mushy bleeding hearts:</p><p>
They need ouuuuuutreeeeeeach, they need traaaaaaining, they need heeeeeeelp.... &nbsp; </p>
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				<p><strong>Yup.....</strong></p><p>Yup, that's right-wingers for you. </p><p>
Their standard position is self-evident "absolute morality" and "law and order", and anyone who would suggest there's anything more to it is just a weenie liberal.</p><p>
But let the moral and legal violations be uncovered among their own operatives, and suddenly they turn into mushy bleeding hearts:</p><p>
They need ouuuuuutreeeeeeach, they need traaaaaaining, they need heeeeeeelp.... &nbsp; </p>
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            <title>Comment #2 by MAD MAC</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 15:34:00 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Actually Russ, it cuts both ways</strong></p><p>Whether from the political left or right one thing you can count on from politicians is hypocrisy. Politicians are evil scum, always were, always will be. But unfortunately for us, they are a necessary evil. At the polls we can do our best to vet the good from the bad - or the less bad from the really bad. It's never easy.</p><p>
But your point on the hypocrisy of political leadership (and it's a world wide phenomenon) is well taken.

<p>Victory in Pattani</p></p>
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				<p><strong>Actually Russ, it cuts both ways</strong></p><p>Whether from the political left or right one thing you can count on from politicians is hypocrisy. Politicians are evil scum, always were, always will be. But unfortunately for us, they are a necessary evil. At the polls we can do our best to vet the good from the bad - or the less bad from the really bad. It's never easy.</p><p>
But your point on the hypocrisy of political leadership (and it's a world wide phenomenon) is well taken.

<p>Victory in Pattani</p></p>
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            <title>Comment #3 by archigeek</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 00:55:09 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>T &amp; F</strong></p><p>I'm tellin' ya, a little tar and feathering would go a long way. Oh, and perhaps if we bring back public shaming. Somewher along the lines of what johns experience in some juridictions when they are caught trying to engage the services of that attractive lady on the corner...or the one down the street...or in the "escort" addy.

<p>The mellotron is your friend.</p></p>
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				<p><strong>T &amp; F</strong></p><p>I'm tellin' ya, a little tar and feathering would go a long way. Oh, and perhaps if we bring back public shaming. Somewher along the lines of what johns experience in some juridictions when they are caught trying to engage the services of that attractive lady on the corner...or the one down the street...or in the "escort" addy.

<p>The mellotron is your friend.</p></p>
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            <title>Comment #4 by GonzoDon</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 01:35:10 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Ethics training</strong></p><p>I suggest a series of case-studies:</p><p>


 Julie MacDonald<br>
 Jack Abrahmoff<br>
 Italia Federici<br>
 Alberto Gonzales<br>
 Donald Rumsfeld<br>
 Harriet Meyers<br>
 Stephen Griles</p><p>


It is only by pure coincidence these are all Republicans. &nbsp;Pure coincidence, I tell ya.</br></br></br></br></br></br></p>
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				<p><strong>Ethics training</strong></p><p>I suggest a series of case-studies:</p><p>


 Julie MacDonald<br>
 Jack Abrahmoff<br>
 Italia Federici<br>
 Alberto Gonzales<br>
 Donald Rumsfeld<br>
 Harriet Meyers<br>
 Stephen Griles</p><p>


It is only by pure coincidence these are all Republicans. &nbsp;Pure coincidence, I tell ya.</br></br></br></br></br></br></p>
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            <title>Comment #5 by MAD MAC</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 01:51:37 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>It won't make a difference</strong></p><p>Historically, there is no example of a political system in which we end up with only good, honest politicians. We could do a lot worse than our current system - indeed most countries are.

<p>Victory in Pattani</p></p>
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				<p><strong>It won't make a difference</strong></p><p>Historically, there is no example of a political system in which we end up with only good, honest politicians. We could do a lot worse than our current system - indeed most countries are.

<p>Victory in Pattani</p></p>
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            <title>Comment #6 by Biodiversivist</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 02:57:40 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong> How do you know when<p>a politician is lying? His lips are moving.

<p>In the end, it all comes down to biodiversity. <a href="http://www.poisondarts.net" rel="nofollow">Poison Darts--Protecting the biodiversity of our world</a></p></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong> How do you know when<p>a politician is lying? His lips are moving.

<p>In the end, it all comes down to biodiversity. <a href="http://www.poisondarts.net" rel="nofollow">Poison Darts--Protecting the biodiversity of our world</a></p></p></strong></p>
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