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            <title>Comment #1 by knitrat</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2007 03:50:30 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>other options<p>No rugrats in my life yet, but if/when it happens they will be drinking out of these:<p>
<a href="http://www.triballife.net/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&amp;products_id=448&amp;zenid=3f67ee299cf81b1b0f5c8137cfdb70d7" rel="nofollow">http://www.triballife.net/store/index.php?main_page=produ ...</a></p></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>other options<p>No rugrats in my life yet, but if/when it happens they will be drinking out of these:<p>
<a href="http://www.triballife.net/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&amp;products_id=448&amp;zenid=3f67ee299cf81b1b0f5c8137cfdb70d7" rel="nofollow">http://www.triballife.net/store/index.php?main_page=produ ...</a></p></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #2 by maryrushing</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2007 06:24:54 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Toxins in Canned Baby Foods<p>"Canned foods found to contain dangerously high level of toxic chemical bisphenol-A (BPA)"<br>
<a href="http://www.newstarget.com/021761.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.newstarget.com/021761.html</a></br></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>Toxins in Canned Baby Foods<p>"Canned foods found to contain dangerously high level of toxic chemical bisphenol-A (BPA)"<br>
<a href="http://www.newstarget.com/021761.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.newstarget.com/021761.html</a></br></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #3 by sarahbei</title>
			<link>http://www.grist.org/article/plastics-n-kids/</link>
			<pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2007 07:05:27 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>toxins in plastics</strong></p><p>I'm no expert, but I believe that all of these toxins are fat-soluble (thus their persistency in tissues). &nbsp;And guess when the ONLY time you excrete fat is? &nbsp;Yup, you guessed it: breastfeeding. &nbsp;</p>
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				<p><strong>toxins in plastics</strong></p><p>I'm no expert, but I believe that all of these toxins are fat-soluble (thus their persistency in tissues). &nbsp;And guess when the ONLY time you excrete fat is? &nbsp;Yup, you guessed it: breastfeeding. &nbsp;</p>
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            <title>Comment #4 by kcopas</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2007 09:27:34 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Bisphenol A as &quot;obesegen&quot;<p>Another emergent thread of research involves Bisphenol A's role as an "obesegen" -- an endocrine disruptor that may be contributing to (dare I say "feeding") America's obesity epidemic. A few links here:<br>
<a href="http://del.icio.us/kylecopas/obesegens" rel="nofollow">http://del.icio.us/kylecopas/obesegens<p>
Nothing like getting the kids started off on the right foot...</p></a></br></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>Bisphenol A as &quot;obesegen&quot;<p>Another emergent thread of research involves Bisphenol A's role as an "obesegen" -- an endocrine disruptor that may be contributing to (dare I say "feeding") America's obesity epidemic. A few links here:<br>
<a href="http://del.icio.us/kylecopas/obesegens" rel="nofollow">http://del.icio.us/kylecopas/obesegens<p>
Nothing like getting the kids started off on the right foot...</p></a></br></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #5 by edouble12</title>
			<link>http://www.grist.org/article/plastics-n-kids/</link>
			<pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2007 10:35:12 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Getting involved</strong></p><p>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;I am a student and recently have taken a transformation from jock athlete to Mr. Sustainability. I have a job training professional athletes but it just is not as satisfying to me as helping to make the world a better place. <br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; I am looking to get involved this summer by doing research or working in the field doing an internship. I love science. I am a very active guy and can't be bogged down in an office all day. I am a hard worker and never complain. <br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; Any ideas of organizations to look into? Job listings? Any guidence as to a good start in the field would be would be much appreciated.<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; Thanks</br></br></br></p>
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				<p><strong>Getting involved</strong></p><p>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;I am a student and recently have taken a transformation from jock athlete to Mr. Sustainability. I have a job training professional athletes but it just is not as satisfying to me as helping to make the world a better place. <br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; I am looking to get involved this summer by doing research or working in the field doing an internship. I love science. I am a very active guy and can't be bogged down in an office all day. I am a hard worker and never complain. <br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; Any ideas of organizations to look into? Job listings? Any guidence as to a good start in the field would be would be much appreciated.<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; Thanks</br></br></br></p>
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            <title>Comment #6 by holmbere</title>
			<link>http://www.grist.org/article/plastics-n-kids/</link>
			<pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2007 22:10:23 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Melamine?</strong></p><p>I have a melamine sippy cup that I bought as an alternative to the polycarbonate sippy cups, but can't find any info on where melamine falls on the safety spectrum. &nbsp;There just doesn't seem to be any info out there on this type of plastic, and it is widely used in kid-friendly dinnerware.</p><p>
Any resources people have would be most welcome!</p>
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				<p><strong>Melamine?</strong></p><p>I have a melamine sippy cup that I bought as an alternative to the polycarbonate sippy cups, but can't find any info on where melamine falls on the safety spectrum. &nbsp;There just doesn't seem to be any info out there on this type of plastic, and it is widely used in kid-friendly dinnerware.</p><p>
Any resources people have would be most welcome!</p>
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            <title>Comment #7 by Greta</title>
			<link>http://www.grist.org/article/plastics-n-kids/</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2007 01:38:08 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Melamine</strong></p><p>Considering that it is killing 4-legged children, right and left, I would look for a better alternative.</p>
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				<p><strong>Melamine</strong></p><p>Considering that it is killing 4-legged children, right and left, I would look for a better alternative.</p>
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            <title>Comment #8 by donnat</title>
			<link>http://www.grist.org/article/plastics-n-kids/</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2007 01:57:23 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>BPA/not-so-organic  tomatoes<p>Was sad but not surprised to call Muir Glen re: their organic tomato products and find, yep, their cans are lined with BPA...(and their consumer affairs person can read quite a lengthy and prestigious list of endorsements and assurances of safety)<a href="http://www.muirglen.com/about.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://www.muirglen.com/about.aspx</a></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>BPA/not-so-organic  tomatoes<p>Was sad but not surprised to call Muir Glen re: their organic tomato products and find, yep, their cans are lined with BPA...(and their consumer affairs person can read quite a lengthy and prestigious list of endorsements and assurances of safety)<a href="http://www.muirglen.com/about.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://www.muirglen.com/about.aspx</a></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #9 by 7wattbulb</title>
			<link>http://www.grist.org/article/plastics-n-kids/</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2007 03:19:59 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Melamine</strong></p><p>Can you explain?</p>
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				<p><strong>Melamine</strong></p><p>Can you explain?</p>
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            <title>Comment #10 by radrerun</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2007 04:34:44 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>You forgot something...</strong></p><p>Good sleuthing, Umbra, but there's a glaring omission from this post and the one on sippy cups: GLASS!</p><p>
People could just use glass containers that they've bought drinks in that have the screw-on cap. &nbsp;I don't know how harmful the cap is, but the glass obviously doesn't leach.</p><p>
I've used Fuze and Bionaturae bottles for my water, before my roommates accidentally recycled them.</p><p>
Give glass a try and that way you're not only NOT getting bisphenol-A, but you're also doing one of the 3 Rs: reusing!</p>
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				<p><strong>You forgot something...</strong></p><p>Good sleuthing, Umbra, but there's a glaring omission from this post and the one on sippy cups: GLASS!</p><p>
People could just use glass containers that they've bought drinks in that have the screw-on cap. &nbsp;I don't know how harmful the cap is, but the glass obviously doesn't leach.</p><p>
I've used Fuze and Bionaturae bottles for my water, before my roommates accidentally recycled them.</p><p>
Give glass a try and that way you're not only NOT getting bisphenol-A, but you're also doing one of the 3 Rs: reusing!</p>
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            <title>Comment #11 by Sean Jones</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 07 Apr 2007 00:19:44 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Glass usage - the terrible trade-offs<p>In Europe they did a study on the use of glass drinking bottles vs. the use of plastic (of course I cannot find the study now) using life cycle analysis (LCA). &nbsp;At issue was the German beverage industry not allowing French companies use of plastic water bottles. &nbsp;A report was done on the 'overall' eco-efficiency of plastic bottles vs. glass and plastic. &nbsp;The driver of this is the increased weight and fuel usage for glass bottles. <p>
This analysis was done for Coke when they switched from glass to plastic too. &nbsp;Glass can be rewashed, reused and does not leach chemicals but the water usage and increased fuel usage make it worse in that analysis.<p>
Of course LCA is an art in trade-offs of all materials used, not just energy or petroleum products. &nbsp;Here is a blog with some thoughtful comments.<p>
<a href="http://blog.turningtheship.com/?p=33" rel="nofollow">http://blog.turningtheship.com/?p=33</a></p></p></p></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>Glass usage - the terrible trade-offs<p>In Europe they did a study on the use of glass drinking bottles vs. the use of plastic (of course I cannot find the study now) using life cycle analysis (LCA). &nbsp;At issue was the German beverage industry not allowing French companies use of plastic water bottles. &nbsp;A report was done on the 'overall' eco-efficiency of plastic bottles vs. glass and plastic. &nbsp;The driver of this is the increased weight and fuel usage for glass bottles. <p>
This analysis was done for Coke when they switched from glass to plastic too. &nbsp;Glass can be rewashed, reused and does not leach chemicals but the water usage and increased fuel usage make it worse in that analysis.<p>
Of course LCA is an art in trade-offs of all materials used, not just energy or petroleum products. &nbsp;Here is a blog with some thoughtful comments.<p>
<a href="http://blog.turningtheship.com/?p=33" rel="nofollow">http://blog.turningtheship.com/?p=33</a></p></p></p></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #12 by holmbere</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2007 21:28:14 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Melamine</strong></p><p>The other writer is referring to the melamine contamination in pet food that led to many cats (and possibly some dogs) dying of renal failure (and to a massive pet food recall).</p><p>
And I can see what they mean, except that presumably the melamine contamination of the wheat gluten was at a far greater dose than what would leach out of plates and cups etc. &nbsp;But perhaps that is naive of me... &nbsp;I will continue the search for a safe sippy cup!</p>
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				<p><strong>Melamine</strong></p><p>The other writer is referring to the melamine contamination in pet food that led to many cats (and possibly some dogs) dying of renal failure (and to a massive pet food recall).</p><p>
And I can see what they mean, except that presumably the melamine contamination of the wheat gluten was at a far greater dose than what would leach out of plates and cups etc. &nbsp;But perhaps that is naive of me... &nbsp;I will continue the search for a safe sippy cup!</p>
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