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            <title>Comment #1 by Matt G</title>
			<link>http://www.grist.org/article/planktos-iron-dumping/</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 04:06:42 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>It's an interesting concept</strong></p><p>(sorry, catching up with the science here)</p><p>
On the acidification front, I suppose their hope is they'll get results like:<br>
Iron --&gt; Plankton pulling CO2 from ocean (ocean less acidic) --&gt; Dead Plankton settling on the ocean bottom --&gt; Sequestered carbon </p><p>
The main argument against this might be that the plankton will pull CO2 from the air, then dissolve it back into the water as the plankton decomposes - ending up with more CO2 and less O2 deep at the bottom. &nbsp;If they were proposing a slow and gradual iron increase, I might be on their side - as long as O2 levels were monitored in the deep ocean. &nbsp;But a sudden dumping? &nbsp;If they're wrong, it sounds like they could mess up the local deep sea ecology for years.</br></p>
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				<p><strong>It's an interesting concept</strong></p><p>(sorry, catching up with the science here)</p><p>
On the acidification front, I suppose their hope is they'll get results like:<br>
Iron --&gt; Plankton pulling CO2 from ocean (ocean less acidic) --&gt; Dead Plankton settling on the ocean bottom --&gt; Sequestered carbon </p><p>
The main argument against this might be that the plankton will pull CO2 from the air, then dissolve it back into the water as the plankton decomposes - ending up with more CO2 and less O2 deep at the bottom. &nbsp;If they were proposing a slow and gradual iron increase, I might be on their side - as long as O2 levels were monitored in the deep ocean. &nbsp;But a sudden dumping? &nbsp;If they're wrong, it sounds like they could mess up the local deep sea ecology for years.</br></p>
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            <title>Comment #2 by caniscandida</title>
			<link>http://www.grist.org/article/planktos-iron-dumping/</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 05:08:06 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>nano-pirates</strong></p><p>Actually, it might be a service to the world, if one could reduce the feckless and boring Johnny Depp to a microscopic state.</p><p>
On nano-stuff:</p><p>


Specifically, this experimental dumping of nano-iron into the Ocean, behind which no doubt lies huge amounts of scientific wisdom, is intellectually analogous to the release of non-native species into new environments, in order to put right some defect -- e.g. starlings, mongooses and cane toads. &nbsp;This subject came up in a recent post by Erik Hoffner. &nbsp;It remains unclear whether any intentional release of a non-native species has worked well.</p><p>
More generally, I happen to belong to the class of people who get the creeps whenever we hear a word prefixed with "nano." &nbsp;So, I ask two questions: first, are there a lot of other people like me in this regard?; and second, are the people who put great hopes in nano-technology truly sound and reasonable and trustworthy?</p><p>


By the way, within the Tyrannosauridae, the granola paleontologist Robert Bakker erected a number of years ago (1988) a new genus and species, Nanotyrannus lancensis, on the basis of a diminutive skeleton with tyrannosaur affinities, which earlier had been considered a baby Albertosaurus.</p><p>
Cute. &nbsp;One wonders if it would have made a good pet. &nbsp;Even so, I doubt Little Dog would like having one around.

<p>Chickens are our cousins!
So are other sensitive animals!
Enough is enough!
No more factory farms!</p></p>
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				<p><strong>nano-pirates</strong></p><p>Actually, it might be a service to the world, if one could reduce the feckless and boring Johnny Depp to a microscopic state.</p><p>
On nano-stuff:</p><p>


Specifically, this experimental dumping of nano-iron into the Ocean, behind which no doubt lies huge amounts of scientific wisdom, is intellectually analogous to the release of non-native species into new environments, in order to put right some defect -- e.g. starlings, mongooses and cane toads. &nbsp;This subject came up in a recent post by Erik Hoffner. &nbsp;It remains unclear whether any intentional release of a non-native species has worked well.</p><p>
More generally, I happen to belong to the class of people who get the creeps whenever we hear a word prefixed with "nano." &nbsp;So, I ask two questions: first, are there a lot of other people like me in this regard?; and second, are the people who put great hopes in nano-technology truly sound and reasonable and trustworthy?</p><p>


By the way, within the Tyrannosauridae, the granola paleontologist Robert Bakker erected a number of years ago (1988) a new genus and species, Nanotyrannus lancensis, on the basis of a diminutive skeleton with tyrannosaur affinities, which earlier had been considered a baby Albertosaurus.</p><p>
Cute. &nbsp;One wonders if it would have made a good pet. &nbsp;Even so, I doubt Little Dog would like having one around.

<p>Chickens are our cousins!
So are other sensitive animals!
Enough is enough!
No more factory farms!</p></p>
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            <title>Comment #3 by GreyFlcn</title>
			<link>http://www.grist.org/article/planktos-iron-dumping/</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 14:35:17 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Well pretty much<p><a href="http://greyfalcon.net/ccs" rel="nofollow">Here's one of the most critical comments I've heard on Planktos.</a></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>Well pretty much<p><a href="http://greyfalcon.net/ccs" rel="nofollow">Here's one of the most critical comments I've heard on Planktos.</a></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #4 by JohnCaley</title>
			<link>http://www.grist.org/article/planktos-iron-dumping/</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 21:07:40 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Integrity +</strong></p><p>&gt;&gt; &nbsp;which would not speak well for their integrity</p><p>
Planktos is the only ethical organisation with a worthwhile solution, and yet as per usual, the rest of the world puts them down.</p><p>
I understand !, Y'all really want this world to end.</p><p>
Well so be it... I am not of this place.</p><p>
&gt;&gt; &nbsp;catching up with the science here)</p><p>
don't bother there isn't any, and any suppositions made will be entirely off the truth, dangerously so.<br>
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				<p><strong>Integrity +</strong></p><p>&gt;&gt; &nbsp;which would not speak well for their integrity</p><p>
Planktos is the only ethical organisation with a worthwhile solution, and yet as per usual, the rest of the world puts them down.</p><p>
I understand !, Y'all really want this world to end.</p><p>
Well so be it... I am not of this place.</p><p>
&gt;&gt; &nbsp;catching up with the science here)</p><p>
don't bother there isn't any, and any suppositions made will be entirely off the truth, dangerously so.<br>
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            <title>Comment #5 by gzuckier</title>
			<link>http://www.grist.org/article/planktos-iron-dumping/</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 04:22:43 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>think positively, dammit! What could go wrong?</strong></p><p>This the kind of optimistic can-do crap they used to do in the former Soviet Union; when something caused an environmental mess, instead of backing off, they just came up with another brilliant solution to fix that problem; which caused its own environmental mess, which required its own brilliant solution; etc., continue until you have the environmental disaster known as the former Soviet Union.</p><p>
See also: "The surge will succeed in Iraq".</p>
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				<p><strong>think positively, dammit! What could go wrong?</strong></p><p>This the kind of optimistic can-do crap they used to do in the former Soviet Union; when something caused an environmental mess, instead of backing off, they just came up with another brilliant solution to fix that problem; which caused its own environmental mess, which required its own brilliant solution; etc., continue until you have the environmental disaster known as the former Soviet Union.</p><p>
See also: "The surge will succeed in Iraq".</p>
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