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            <title>Comment #1 by mihan</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 09:35:44 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Bubble bursting</strong></p><p>Christine, I hate to tell you, but... biking burns fewer calories per mile than walking (my preferred mode of travel, too).</p><p>
But good for you! Enjoy, and make sure everyone has their helmet on.</p>
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				<p><strong>Bubble bursting</strong></p><p>Christine, I hate to tell you, but... biking burns fewer calories per mile than walking (my preferred mode of travel, too).</p><p>
But good for you! Enjoy, and make sure everyone has their helmet on.</p>
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            <title>Comment #2 by Biodiversivist</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 15:13:26 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>I took my daughters everywhere in a bike trailer<p>My twelve year old climbed into it one last time for one last ride a few months ago on a trip to the hardware store. She had to curl up sideways and tuck her legs in. They grow up so fast. Sigh...

<p>In the end, it all comes down to biodiversity. <a href="http://www.poisondarts.net" rel="nofollow">Poison Darts--Protecting the biodiversity of our world</a></p></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>I took my daughters everywhere in a bike trailer<p>My twelve year old climbed into it one last time for one last ride a few months ago on a trip to the hardware store. She had to curl up sideways and tuck her legs in. They grow up so fast. Sigh...

<p>In the end, it all comes down to biodiversity. <a href="http://www.poisondarts.net" rel="nofollow">Poison Darts--Protecting the biodiversity of our world</a></p></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #3 by caniscandida</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 15:33:14 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Not that I could do it myself ...</strong></p><p>... but is repairing the wheel on the stroller really all that difficult?

<p>Chickens are our cousins!
So are other sensitive animals!
Enough is enough!
No more factory farms!</p></p>
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				<p><strong>Not that I could do it myself ...</strong></p><p>... but is repairing the wheel on the stroller really all that difficult?

<p>Chickens are our cousins!
So are other sensitive animals!
Enough is enough!
No more factory farms!</p></p>
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            <title>Comment #4 by PBrazelton</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 02:23:12 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Synchronicity</strong></p><p>My wife and I were just talking about you last week, Christine (hope that doesn't creep you out). &nbsp;Our conversation? &nbsp;Why you haven't picked up biking yet. &nbsp;And here you are.</p><p>
Congrats, hope you love it! &nbsp;We're heavy into biking now too and think it rocks.</p>
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				<p><strong>Synchronicity</strong></p><p>My wife and I were just talking about you last week, Christine (hope that doesn't creep you out). &nbsp;Our conversation? &nbsp;Why you haven't picked up biking yet. &nbsp;And here you are.</p><p>
Congrats, hope you love it! &nbsp;We're heavy into biking now too and think it rocks.</p>
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            <title>Comment #5 by Delay And Deny</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 27 May 2007 05:21:05 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Not To Rain on Her Parade<p><br>
There is no way on earth I would ever, ever, <strong>EVER put a toddler on the back of a bicycle or "trailer" and take them on any road where there was automobile traffic, especially in the Puget Sound.

<p>John Bailo, The "Denier Guy"<br>
<a href="http://you-read-it-here-first.com" rel="nofollow">You Read It Here First</a></br></p></strong></br></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>Not To Rain on Her Parade<p><br>
There is no way on earth I would ever, ever, <strong>EVER put a toddler on the back of a bicycle or "trailer" and take them on any road where there was automobile traffic, especially in the Puget Sound.

<p>John Bailo, The "Denier Guy"<br>
<a href="http://you-read-it-here-first.com" rel="nofollow">You Read It Here First</a></br></p></strong></br></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #6 by MarkUK</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 27 May 2007 05:25:26 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>no way</strong></p><p>I hate to say it, but I am with Jab here. No way I would put my 10m month old boy in such an exposed trailer. Especially taking into consideration how most car drivers go about things.</p><p>
Environment yes, but not at the expense of my child's safety.</p><p>
If would go back to living in the Netherlands I would do it for sure. Everybody cycles and car drivers take ranking 3 after cycles and buses.<br>
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				<p><strong>no way</strong></p><p>I hate to say it, but I am with Jab here. No way I would put my 10m month old boy in such an exposed trailer. Especially taking into consideration how most car drivers go about things.</p><p>
Environment yes, but not at the expense of my child's safety.</p><p>
If would go back to living in the Netherlands I would do it for sure. Everybody cycles and car drivers take ranking 3 after cycles and buses.<br>
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            <title>Comment #7 by Christine Gardner</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 27 May 2007 11:45:19 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Safe and sound<p>While still too new to be an expert on cycle safety, the last week went fine in terms of safety and distance traveled (I somehow managed to get up at 6 a.m. for a quiet ride before the girls got up). I ride only on very light-traffic streets, on sidewalks alongside busier streets (probably a bike no-no, but it feels OK) and on an awesome trail that provides access to a playground and an ice cream shop. <p>
I came across this <a href="http://badmomgoodmom.blogspot.com/search/label/Goodie%20Bags" rel="nofollow">mom blog talking about Bike to Work Week.<p>
In our quest for safety, we have made the world a more dangerous place. ... Help end the madness."<p>
But I did run up against this little surprise. At this busy four-way stop near my house, vehicles were always more than willing to let the stroller pass. Strangely, they don't provide the same courtesy to a bike, even one carting a trailer. <p>
Lesson learned. SUV gets right-of-way. For now...</p></p></p></a></p></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>Safe and sound<p>While still too new to be an expert on cycle safety, the last week went fine in terms of safety and distance traveled (I somehow managed to get up at 6 a.m. for a quiet ride before the girls got up). I ride only on very light-traffic streets, on sidewalks alongside busier streets (probably a bike no-no, but it feels OK) and on an awesome trail that provides access to a playground and an ice cream shop. <p>
I came across this <a href="http://badmomgoodmom.blogspot.com/search/label/Goodie%20Bags" rel="nofollow">mom blog talking about Bike to Work Week.<p>
In our quest for safety, we have made the world a more dangerous place. ... Help end the madness."<p>
But I did run up against this little surprise. At this busy four-way stop near my house, vehicles were always more than willing to let the stroller pass. Strangely, they don't provide the same courtesy to a bike, even one carting a trailer. <p>
Lesson learned. SUV gets right-of-way. For now...</p></p></p></a></p></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #8 by Biodiversivist</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 27 May 2007 12:06:19 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>True,<p>Stick to safe routes with a trailer. I find that the trailer gets deference at intersections, especially from women, less so from guys, especially younger ones. I also notice that women often peek to see what is in the trailer.

<p>In the end, it all comes down to biodiversity. <a href="http://www.poisondarts.net" rel="nofollow">Poison Darts--Protecting the biodiversity of our world</a></p></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>True,<p>Stick to safe routes with a trailer. I find that the trailer gets deference at intersections, especially from women, less so from guys, especially younger ones. I also notice that women often peek to see what is in the trailer.

<p>In the end, it all comes down to biodiversity. <a href="http://www.poisondarts.net" rel="nofollow">Poison Darts--Protecting the biodiversity of our world</a></p></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #9 by Espresso</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 28 May 2007 02:09:10 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Bike riding movement</strong></p><p>I cycled with all my kids some riding and some in a trailer. It was always stressful as I had to ride through the busy downtown area to get to most places that I wanted to go. I took it slowly and pretty soon people started noticing and claimed I inspired them to ride with their kids. The more riders the more cars notice riders. This is how movements start people.<br>
My 2 older kids still do not have drivers licenses and think nothing of a 100 Km ride.<br>
And for all those of us who do drive how about some excessive politeness for pedestrians and riders. Leave them lots of room, stop at crosswalks, slow down on residential streets. This is a traffic calming measure and sets an example to others.</br></br></p>
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				<p><strong>Bike riding movement</strong></p><p>I cycled with all my kids some riding and some in a trailer. It was always stressful as I had to ride through the busy downtown area to get to most places that I wanted to go. I took it slowly and pretty soon people started noticing and claimed I inspired them to ride with their kids. The more riders the more cars notice riders. This is how movements start people.<br>
My 2 older kids still do not have drivers licenses and think nothing of a 100 Km ride.<br>
And for all those of us who do drive how about some excessive politeness for pedestrians and riders. Leave them lots of room, stop at crosswalks, slow down on residential streets. This is a traffic calming measure and sets an example to others.</br></br></p>
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            <title>Comment #10 by Planner</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 00:16:50 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Admiration for the Rider mom!</strong></p><p>But for those chiding her for 'exposing' her children to danger? &nbsp;Can I get a 'puh-leeze!' And post all the stats you want - we all know that those numbers can mean anything to anyone with only a small change.</p><p>
Since moving to my new town where both my wife and I work in town - no more long commutes, yay! - we have been toting the 3 year old and 8 month old to their day care provider, daily, through busy school drop off (out house is across from one school and we pass another on the way). I can honestly say that I have NEVER felt the girls were in any kind of danger, nor threatened with any kind of harm. The 8 mo old sits in the back humming her little tune, giggling at times while the 3 yo chatters incessantly.</p><p>
Bottom line is this: Cycling is SAFE. Don't go blindly into the street though. In order to be safe, you need to be aware of whats around you. Its that simple, awareness. Listen for cars behind, watch for cars coming from the sides.</p>
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				<p><strong>Admiration for the Rider mom!</strong></p><p>But for those chiding her for 'exposing' her children to danger? &nbsp;Can I get a 'puh-leeze!' And post all the stats you want - we all know that those numbers can mean anything to anyone with only a small change.</p><p>
Since moving to my new town where both my wife and I work in town - no more long commutes, yay! - we have been toting the 3 year old and 8 month old to their day care provider, daily, through busy school drop off (out house is across from one school and we pass another on the way). I can honestly say that I have NEVER felt the girls were in any kind of danger, nor threatened with any kind of harm. The 8 mo old sits in the back humming her little tune, giggling at times while the 3 yo chatters incessantly.</p><p>
Bottom line is this: Cycling is SAFE. Don't go blindly into the street though. In order to be safe, you need to be aware of whats around you. Its that simple, awareness. Listen for cars behind, watch for cars coming from the sides.</p>
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            <title>Comment #11 by MarkUK</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 03:19:19 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>All depends.</strong></p><p>It's not me I don't trust. It's the car drivers. My children are safe in the car or walking with me on the sidewalk. They are not safe in a flimsy trailer. Like I said, if I lived somewhere where there were cycle lanes or traffic was more tuned in to cyclists I would. Where I live neither is the case...</p>
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				<p><strong>All depends.</strong></p><p>It's not me I don't trust. It's the car drivers. My children are safe in the car or walking with me on the sidewalk. They are not safe in a flimsy trailer. Like I said, if I lived somewhere where there were cycle lanes or traffic was more tuned in to cyclists I would. Where I live neither is the case...</p>
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            <title>Comment #12 by schallerc</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 00:37:58 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>&quot;That's very IRRESPONSIBLE, IDIOT!&quot;</strong></p><p>"That's very IRRESPONSIBLE, IDIOT!" &nbsp;Was shouted at me as I pedaled the kids (in the trailer) past a busy intersection in Suburbsville, USA on a beautiful late-September afternoon. &nbsp;I had the traffic light on my side and was first in line to traverse a hairy 50 yard section of road until a 3 foot "bike lane" gave me a little room to breathe. &nbsp;I had played that crossing almost the entire ride, as do many riders when considering their routes, but there was no other way to get to the library from the route we had selected.</p><p>
The driver of the smashed up Toyota shouting at me wasn't an evil person, against all those who bike. Maybe he lost a child to an accident. &nbsp;Pull over, confront me face-to-face, drop the "IDIOT" comment and I'll listen to you, now I'm just mad at you. &nbsp;</p><p>
The lesson learned; I won't ride that route with kids ever again, but I'm not a bad parent. I love my kids, that's why I'm trying to instill the values of biking as a viable mode of transportation. &nbsp;This is second time in my fresh parenting life the a stranger has called me out on parenting choices that wouldn't received a second thought 20 years ago. &nbsp;I'm starting to get tired of the constant risk analysis today's society has forced us to consider before we enjoy any activity with our kids. I drive them in cars, take them on planes, and let them eat grapes don't all those things have a higher probabilistic likihood of causing a fatality? &nbsp;And if they are in fact statistically more likely, aren't those things being "IRRESPONSIBLE, IDIOT!"?</p>
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				<p><strong>&quot;That's very IRRESPONSIBLE, IDIOT!&quot;</strong></p><p>"That's very IRRESPONSIBLE, IDIOT!" &nbsp;Was shouted at me as I pedaled the kids (in the trailer) past a busy intersection in Suburbsville, USA on a beautiful late-September afternoon. &nbsp;I had the traffic light on my side and was first in line to traverse a hairy 50 yard section of road until a 3 foot "bike lane" gave me a little room to breathe. &nbsp;I had played that crossing almost the entire ride, as do many riders when considering their routes, but there was no other way to get to the library from the route we had selected.</p><p>
The driver of the smashed up Toyota shouting at me wasn't an evil person, against all those who bike. Maybe he lost a child to an accident. &nbsp;Pull over, confront me face-to-face, drop the "IDIOT" comment and I'll listen to you, now I'm just mad at you. &nbsp;</p><p>
The lesson learned; I won't ride that route with kids ever again, but I'm not a bad parent. I love my kids, that's why I'm trying to instill the values of biking as a viable mode of transportation. &nbsp;This is second time in my fresh parenting life the a stranger has called me out on parenting choices that wouldn't received a second thought 20 years ago. &nbsp;I'm starting to get tired of the constant risk analysis today's society has forced us to consider before we enjoy any activity with our kids. I drive them in cars, take them on planes, and let them eat grapes don't all those things have a higher probabilistic likihood of causing a fatality? &nbsp;And if they are in fact statistically more likely, aren't those things being "IRRESPONSIBLE, IDIOT!"?</p>
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