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            <title>Comment #1 by John McGrath</title>
			<link>http://www.grist.org/article/peak-oil-as-transformative/</link>
			<pubDate>Mon, 18 Sep 2006 07:56:22 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>addendum to an addendum, then</strong></p><p>Not to be sloppy and obsequious, but if anything I thought my post was an addendum to your earlier work on fear. &nbsp;I toyed with the alternate title "Fear and Environmentalism: &nbsp;Open mike night!" or maybe "Fear and Environmentalism: Amateur hour!"</p><p>
I make no apologies for beating you to the Post button, however.</p>
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				<p><strong>addendum to an addendum, then</strong></p><p>Not to be sloppy and obsequious, but if anything I thought my post was an addendum to your earlier work on fear. &nbsp;I toyed with the alternate title "Fear and Environmentalism: &nbsp;Open mike night!" or maybe "Fear and Environmentalism: Amateur hour!"</p><p>
I make no apologies for beating you to the Post button, however.</p>
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            <title>Comment #2 by bookerly</title>
			<link>http://www.grist.org/article/peak-oil-as-transformative/</link>
			<pubDate>Mon, 18 Sep 2006 20:38:35 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Waiting for Godot<p><br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;Waiting for peak oil to be transformative may be like waiting for Godot.<p>
<a href="http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2006/1002/098_1.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2006/1002/098_1.html<p>
&nbsp; (you have to be a member to see this, but you don't have to spend any money (smile)).<p>
patrick</p></p></a></p></br></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>Waiting for Godot<p><br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;Waiting for peak oil to be transformative may be like waiting for Godot.<p>
<a href="http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2006/1002/098_1.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2006/1002/098_1.html<p>
&nbsp; (you have to be a member to see this, but you don't have to spend any money (smile)).<p>
patrick</p></p></a></p></br></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #3 by biggav</title>
			<link>http://www.grist.org/article/peak-oil-as-transformative/</link>
			<pubDate>Mon, 18 Sep 2006 22:33:32 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Agreed</strong></p><p>But the PO world is largely beyond help now in terms of framing the issue - collapse is the dominant meme, not a transition to a better world.</p><p>
That combined with the fact that no one has a clear view of when the peak will actually occur means the issue won't be taken entirely seriously until we're well past the peak - and PO doomers will still be ignored (much to their annyoance) when that time comes...</p><p>
I do agree with Ibon's prediction that there will be a period of increasing the two tiered society in less adaptable countries though - hopefully more politicians will foloow the Swedish and German lead.</p>
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				<p><strong>Agreed</strong></p><p>But the PO world is largely beyond help now in terms of framing the issue - collapse is the dominant meme, not a transition to a better world.</p><p>
That combined with the fact that no one has a clear view of when the peak will actually occur means the issue won't be taken entirely seriously until we're well past the peak - and PO doomers will still be ignored (much to their annyoance) when that time comes...</p><p>
I do agree with Ibon's prediction that there will be a period of increasing the two tiered society in less adaptable countries though - hopefully more politicians will foloow the Swedish and German lead.</p>
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