McCain may have found the female political equivalent of a George W. Bush of 8 years ago, not a George W. Bush of today.

Karsten

She's another Dan Quayle.  Remember the potato"e" (sic) VP?

We all want to forget that part of US history, but the comparison is apt.

http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog John Schneider, Northern Wisconsin

I wouldn't be so quick to underestimate a woman who defeated an incumbent governor.  Palin may not be ready for a national stage, but thus far she seems to have more gravitas than Quayle.  At any rate, VPs rarely are the deciding factor in an election.  The Bush-Quayl ticket won in 1988 . . . and mainly lost in 1992 because of a tanking economy combined with the unusually strong third party run of Ross Perot.  He drew a substantial number of conservative voters away from Bush.

If we had any lingering doubts about John McCain's cynicism, his selection of Sarah Palin as his running mate should crush them.

Friends of biodiversity and animals already look on this woman with horror.  She must not be allowed to go to Washington.

Chickens deserve our true friendship! So do fish! So do other sentient beings! Let us learn to be kind.

It is comforting to know that the person who might be a heartbeat from the nuclear button thinks that the earth was created 6,000 years ago.

Here I am, an Evangelical Christian (and pro-lifer) who's been a full-tilt environmentalist for more than 30 years (Sierra Club member since 1974, full time environmental professional for 25 years, etc.).  And over the past few years, I've been overjoyed to see so many Evangelical leaders get serious about environmental concerns.  Rick Warren signing onto a letter calling for action to address climate change.  The Evangelical Environmental Network and its "What Would Jesus Drive?" campaign.  Etc., etc.  

But now Sarah Palin (with her anti-environmental bent) is all over the TV, described as the delight of Evangelicals.  Appalling.  

Please understand that Palin does not represent most Evangelicals.  In fact, she's probably more accurately described as a "fundamentalist."  A female version of James Watt.  

Yes, she probably will energize the GOP's base among fundamentalists, and among some (but by no means all) Evangelicals.  Meanwhile, a number of Evangelicals will favor Obama, in part because of the Democrats' better record on environmental concerns.
   

Bart posts about Palin "She does not seem to be part of the Right-wing machine that's taken over Republican politics." As the old song goes, "it ain't necessarily so."

Check out an article "Christian Cabal Vetted Palin" by Max Blumenthal in the web page of the Nation. When people like Dobson, Grover Norquist and the rest of their hell spawned crowd are on their feet applauding a candidate, then you should reasonably suspect that something wicked this way comes.

McSame's strategy all along can be summed up as "I am not a maverick in real life but I play one on TV." He is a down the line right winger. He has an LCV rating in the basement. Palin is given the same kid gloves treatment, just because she has criticized the old guard in Alaska. That is kinda like saying Kruschev was not a communist because he criticized Stalin.

It is not only possible, but probable that something will happen to McCain in office. Palin would be there waiting to take over. It would be a virtual coup by the most far right sector of the Republican party. See what happens to the environment under these earth haters.

This election is our last chance to make progress on issues that will determine the habitability of the planet. There will not be another bite from the apple. Obama is no guarantee. But we all know what McCain means. Everything else is BS.

Randy Cunningham
Cleveland, OH

Randy Cunningham

None of what I say below is meant as a critique of Bart's advocated strategy, but is instead aimed at the fundamental issue of overpopulation that is being totally ignored, as usual, that Palin raises by her own choice of having five children.

Bart said, "[t]he fact that her 17-year-old daughter is pregnant makes her seem more human to me, and it may make her more tolerant."  No, that fact means that she has probably been a failure as a parent, and in more ways than one.  I couldn't care less whether kids have sex, but they should be taught in all circumstances to take precautions against pregnancy and sexually transmitted diseases, just as we were.  But what do you expect when her daughter has, as an example, a mother who thought nothing of adding five more humans to the grossly overpopulated number.

And things like the right to abortion and overbreeding are not "symbolic cultural issues," but are instead fundamental environmental issues and in the case of the right to abortion, a fundamental human right.

McCain's choice is loathsome in every way.  Perhaps Bart has the best strategy for dealing with it, but we should never lose sight of what a hardcore anti-environmentalist Sarah Palin is.

Salvete Randy Bart que:

Yes, this is probably our "last chance" -- which means, it may be time for us to retire into a pleasantly opiated cynicism, with lots of good nostalgic videos, unless Obama can pull a deep-green rabbit out of his Doric-ordered hat.

No, Sarah Palin is not part of the Republican "machine" -- yet.  But Republicans have a way of absorbing and co-opting and Cylon-izing all who show the least inclination to identifying themselves as Republican.

Remember, subsequent to 1976, joining the Republican party is a clear sign of a moral deficiency of one kind or another.

Chickens deserve our true friendship! So do fish! So do other sentient beings! Let us learn to be kind.

Thanks for reminding me of that tiny gaffe. I have been thinking about the presidential candidate who had visted 57 states.

You elitists really hate this woman and are spewing all sorts of venom. It will backfire on you. People in flyover country will rally to her. This could turn into a landslide victory for Palin/McCain (I like her better than him).

"All sorts of venom" would in any case be foolishly redundant and unnecessarily expensive, when only one would do the job.

But who in the world is being "venomous"?  Sarah Palin brought all this media attention on herself and her family.  Bart says he likes her, so sure, of course I trust Bart's judgment.  But, to switch metaphors to something more homely and gentle, she made her bed, now let her lie in it.

Bart says also: "Let Palin stay in Alaska."  Amen!: an evil, for Alaska and for all Alaska's living creatures; but perhaps it would be the lesser of two evils.

Chickens deserve our true friendship! So do fish! So do other sentient beings! Let us learn to be kind.

I was not venomous towards Palin. I get a little annoyed where strong political opinion is confused for hate speech. Perhaps the poster who first accused us of venom is of such tender nature that he cannot stand the rough and tumble of polemical discourse.

Palin to me is a garden variety right winger. She has been offered up to the jihadi wing of the Republican Party as a loyalty test for McCain. He has passed, but in passing his claim to a Maverick status, much less as a change agent no longer passes the laugh test.

I think a lot of people have had attitudes towards rural and working people that if they were applied to racial minorities would brand them as bigots. I think Rebecca Solnit's recent piece in Orion is a landmark rethinking of these prejudices. But the accusation of eltiism that the Republicans and right level at the drop of a hat is a strategic feint. It uses the resentment of the less educated, for the more educated, in order to cover up the depredations of the REAL elite - the possessors of great wealth, basically the same people who have been running things since the Civil War.

Randy Cunningham
Cleveland, OH

Randy Cunningham

Hello mr einbold.

It is difficult to take your comment regarding "venom" seriously when McCain views the following question as crossing the line and inappropriate harassment of their choice for VP.

CNN news anchorwoman Campbell Brown, talking with McCain spokesman Tucker Bounds, asked, "Can you just tell me one decision that she made as commander-in-chief of the Alaskan National Guard, just one?"

Bound couldn't think of one. McCain, outraged, canceled his appearance on Larry King. Geez. If you can't even ask about Palin's experience as commander of the Alaskan National Guard, when the Republican Party is touting it as very important experience, what ARE we allowed to ask about?????!!!!!

"Elite" is just more name calling and has no meaning when used in this way.  However, that doesn't mean it's not effective.

Re rural people, while I've often found them quite pleasant personally, their politics are usually disgusting.  Let's be honest here: it takes some research grounded in some education in order to understand all the B.S. that passes for politics nowadays.  Aside from the upper middle- and upper classes, those who support the right tend very strongly to be the least well informed.  Most rural people have neither the time for the research nor the education.  This is not their fault, but it is reality.

For Jesus!  : (

Thanks, WiscIdea, for the Time reference.  My husband, a librarian, who flies off the handle at all sorts of little things, hauls out the big guns when librarians' protectorship of freedom of speech and information is threatened by people in power.

Also, I saw Campbell Brown's brief interview with that feeble and defensive Palin spokesman, and feel exactly as you about how it went, as well as about the McCain campaign's bizarre reaction.

Wolverine,
good for you, for calling a spade a spade.  Barack Obama got a lot of grief for calling (some) rural voters "bitter," and observing that they "cling" to authoritarian religion, and gun rights, and xenophobia, as a kind of defense mechanism.  The way the Hillaryites and the GOP spun it, it sounded insulting; but in fact, he was being sympathetic, and he was right.

That "bitter" defense mechanism is visibly in play in this very thread, when MReinbold brandishes that famous anti-"elitist" expression, "flyover country" -- which irks me to no end, as someone who has spent much more time visiting the Plains states and Rocky Mountain states, living in Montana and New Mexico, and spending much much more time there than ever in California, for example, and never having visited Seattle and DR and BioD.

Chickens deserve our true friendship! So do fish! So do other sentient beings! Let us learn to be kind.

You must remember it's not the nature of the evidence, but the seriousness of the charge. That is unless, of course, it is a Democrat.

elite

I missed the transition from compliment to pejorative. And the fellow teaching the linguistics class I took about twenty years ago said language changes too slowly for any of us to recognize it during our lifetime.

Anyway... the elite are the best of the best, those who thoroughly undertand their field, whether military, science, politics, foreign policy, et cetera. Elite troops are the most skilled warriors. Elite foreign policy experts have a thorough undertanding of history and the potential consequences of their decsions. I WANT leaders drawn from the elite! Why would someone want leaders who are not knowledgeable, experienced, wise? Why would someone want leaders who are amateurs and have to get up to speed by studying issues onl when a crisis arises?! We've seen the results of eight years of leadership by amateurs. Please... bring back the elites!

fly-over country

I can't put my finger on exactly why this annoys me, but every time someone uses the phrase I just want to stop listening to them. It suggests the user's mind is filled with stereotypes and prejudice. The region of North America between the east and west coasts is very diverse, ethnically, culturally, poitically. There are right-wing conservatives, progressives, libertarians, socialists. There are people who minimize the value of education, probably, and there are people who strongly embrace it. Before someone says: Ethnic diversity? You're all white!" Well, that's a load a crap. I don't know what the exact racial breakdown is, but let's assume we ARE primarily white. Keep in mind that the area was settled by people from all over Europe. The English, Germans, Italians, Poles, French, Welsh, Irish, et cetera who arrived from different places, at different times, for different reasons, brought with them a diverse array of values.

STOP GENERALIZING!

I live a few miles from the farm Fighting Bob LaFollette grew up on. This is still a progressive area. We value education, political participation, and informed discussion of issues. Sarah Palin will not sway voters here by being a simple "hockey mom".

Okay... I'll try to calm down,

Peace.

You are the definition of an elitist.

Sorry about the misspelling, Wolverine. I grew up in the country. I wasn't educated at Harvard.

When did suppressing debate on scientific issues (global warming) become the American way or the way to advance science?

Sarah is far more than a "hockey mom." This woman has you people in panic, and this evening she will show us why. You damned well better believe I will vote for the woman. I must be a "progressive." By the way, I am here in flyover country, which right now is the focus of the world. Yes, I live in the Twin Cities. I wish I could be there in person tonight. She will blow your socks off.

One more thing. My son graduated from UW-Madison, 57 square miles surrounded by reality.

While I appreciate the good things that Arnold has done to help make California more green let it be known that he doesn't adhere to green in his personal life.
Arnold flies by jet almost every day to and from his home in Brentwood, CA to Sacramento, Ca where his office is. That equals about 1000 miles per day. Arnold also drives a Hummer. If this is Green then we are all in trouble.

Ron Maron

I do not understand why "ignorance" is now American value.

Regarding Madison...

I prefer to view it as 57 square miles OF reality. We actually pay attention to world events and try to understand them. We prefer to form our opinions by examining facts, rather than forcing reality to conform to an ideology.

mr reinbold,

Is banning books an American value and acceptable behavior for a leader in this country?

Is it okay to ask for details regarding Palin's experience as commander of the Alaska National Guard or do you consider that a venomous attack the crosses the line?

mr reinbold,

Discussion about Palin's daughter's pregnancy and the boyfriend's comments regarding never wanting children might be inappropriate. They are personal matters.

Would you agree, then, that interfering with a person's decision to marry someone of the same sex is also a personal matter? And the government should not become involved in this by banning gay marriage?

Just trying to figure out when stuff is personal and when it is not.

...as conversations with right-wingers have informed me, and as mreinbold's reactions indicate, I'm coming to the conclusion that they would actually prefer Palin to McCain.  As we are well aware, a very large chunk of the Republican party, the "base" (al qaeda in arabic) was disappointed that McCain was nominated and wanted a far right-winger.  They have one now.  They will probably give Palin a better reception, or at least on par, with McCain tomorrow night.

The fact that she is rural and fairly "untouched" by the city or the rest of the world has the far right fainting with joy, which the gun-toting emphasizes.    World Net Daily has a piece from good ol' Pat Buchanan on how wonderful she is.  She'll be the leading candidate in 2012 or 2016 at this rate.

Remember, far right-wingers want very little out of the government, basically an end to abortion, maybe to gays, and a large military.  So the fact that she doesn't know anything about either the United States or the world is not a problem for the far right, it's almost a virtue.

Palin has it.  So did duuhbya,when he ran,  executive experience running three oil companies into bankruptcy, bailed out by cronies.

McCain, no executive experience.

Just like Abe Lincoln, JFK, FDR, and Barack.

President Palin!  She ran a state with a population of 600,000, and six or seven huge oil companies, for 20 months!  

http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog John Schneider, Northern Wisconsin

That's right, and either 1) they don't care, or 2) they think that it's a virtue.  It's clearly "Party First", not "Country First".

Several of the above comments prove my point that this site is all about leftwing politics. That is, in fact, what the whole radical environmental movement is about. Keep doing my job for me!

mr reinbold,

Is banning books an American value and acceptable behavior for a leader in this country?

Is it okay to ask for details regarding Palin's experience as commander of the Alaska National Guard or do you consider that a venomous attack the crosses the line?

sort of remind of ticks. They just suck the blood of their hosts. They would be lost without the left. In fact a major malady for the right is that they don't have communists to kick around anymore, so they have substituted environmentalists as their favorite demons and devils. They are trying to recover their old buzz from the Cold War days. But as much as you may rant and rave against greens, they are a poor substitute for a nice, juicy Bolshevik. Slurp, drool!

I would never think to go on a consevative web site just so I could sneer at, laugh at, and bash the other posters. But I am not a freak - opps, I mean conservative, so I guess I cannot understand their twisted idea of fun.

Randy Cunningham
Cleveland, OH

Randy Cunningham

Hmm. what might that be?   Maybe a prison job?  Get back to work selling credit information services over the phone.  

Defrauding your employer is hardly the act of a loyal GOP corporate contractor slave.

http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog John Schneider, Northern Wisconsin

You have put me in my place. By the way, environmentalism is the new home of the Communists. I am a conservationist as well as a conservative. I love the national parks, especially Yellowstone. I send money to the Yellowstone Park Foundation. What I don't support are lies and frauds. That is what the idea of manmade global warming is. It is all for leftwing political purposes. Oh, and anyone with a different opinion is always a "troll" to you people.

has openings for new contributors to the dialog.

mr reinbold,

After responding to the following questions...

Is banning books an American value and acceptable behavior for a leader in this country?

Is it okay to ask for details regarding Palin's experience as commander of the Alaska National Guard or do you consider that a venomous attack the crosses the line?

... could you please explain why you believe environmentalism is a home for communists? Since I'm an environmentalist, but not a communists, it is sort of important to know who I should watch out for. Thank you.

By the way, I've found that having a different opinion does not necessarily make a person a troll here. Posting hostile remarks, especially the same ones, over and over, without providing a shred of explanation or reason for your remarks might make a person a troll. Actually, I'm pretty sure it does. Are you here to discuss whether Palin is qualified for the job of VP or simply to make noise? I've asked a couple questions. Educate us.

What will Palin contribute to conserving resources for future generations?

Is banning books an American value and acceptable behavior for a leader in this country?

Is it okay to ask for details regarding Palin's experience as commander of the Alaska National Guard or do you consider that a venomous attack the crosses the line?

Is teenage pregnancy a personal matter, but marriage to someone of the same sex not a personal matter?

Hasn't he Canis?  Enquiring minds want to know.  Was it because he was getting into trouble at home?

The tabloids will be all over the Palin and McCain families now.  That means we can stay above the sleaze, hehey.

But of course the GOP children, emulating the stripper dating, macho, young McCain, sowing their wild oats, have the family values abstinence training example set by the Palin family to restrain them.  Thank gaaawd!

How many millions has the ex-brother-in-law, targeted for firing by the Guv, been offered to divulge tabloid dirt on the Palins?  This whole story is tabloid gold.  And who loves tabloid stories?  Drudge, O'Really, Fauxnews, dimbulb limboobs everywhere, and the millions of tabloid readers, mainly the GOP faithfilled.

http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog John Schneider, Northern Wisconsin

Would it be OK to do a little research into Obama's background and that of the people he has associated with over the years? What about Jeremiah Wright, Tony Rezko, and perhaps worst of all, William Ayers? Wouldn't you think the media might have a little interest along those lines? What in the hell is the foreign affairs experience that Obama offers? OK, you say you are not a communist. Are you a socialist? Do you hate capitalism? The answer to that is pretty obvious. Is it OK for Algore to say the debate about global warming is over. That is a huge lie. Why won't he debate the issue? If he is right, he should have no problem winning. Is it OK for Algore to be a huge hypocrite? He is a massive consumer of energy. Is that OK with you?

Your arrogance and condescension is only outstripped by your complete lack of self awareness when measured on the "Are you serious?" scale.

What do you want to use a measuring stick? IQ? Formal education? World travel? Languages spoken? Money donated to NPR?

I don't agree with you, but I don't trade on your deficiencies in the aforementioned categories.  

Make your argument. I won't hold your lack of education or intelligence against you.

Your opinions are just as valid as mine.

Try showing others the same level of respect.

"...a 90 percent chance that the US has contributed .2 degrees F of temperature increase in the last 50 years..." The IPCC Consensus in perspective

Obama points to his "experience" running his campaign (um...he has a campaign manager) versus Palin's governing a State.

The left doesn't see the irony here.

They don't care about Ayers or Wright except that they illuminate the truth about what the left believes. Liberals win when the successfully hide what they believe.

The media has not beaten the "GRAVITAS" drum regarding Biden. Remember Cheney? Bush was so inexperienced (Governor of Texas) that he needed a father figure to hold his hand.

If McCain can actually win in the face of media and pop culture bias, it will be an amazing thing to behold.

"...a 90 percent chance that the US has contributed .2 degrees F of temperature increase in the last 50 years..." The IPCC Consensus in perspective

Paley, perhaps you ought to remember presidents who had no executive experience.  FDR, JFK, Abe Licoln.  And prospective presidents who have no executive experience.  McCain.

And presidents who have.  Duuhbya. For instance. Whoops.  (Thanks to the mighty Colbert)

So it should be Palin/McCain?  Yep, if executive experience is the measure.

http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog John Schneider, Northern Wisconsin

Ring any bells einy?  I think he already did the tabloid lying swiftboat book on Obama.

Would it be ok if a swiftboat hit book came out on Palin/McCain?  (your new executive experience ticket)

http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog John Schneider, Northern Wisconsin

who call themselves conservationists, is that they do not heed the maxim of John Muir that everything is "hitched together." They want their politics regarding the land to be nice, neat and discreet so that it does not interfere with property or business as usual, and I stress the word business. Environmentalism is too all encompassing to them. It not only preaches, as the old joke about the two old Baptist ladies went, it meddles. Conservative conservatism wants to save the land and that which dwells on it, as long as it is convenient and does not interfere with what is really at the heart of conservatism - greed.

I am constantly amazed at how conservatives who shout to the heavens their love of the out of doors, while consistently backing the rape, loot and pillage politics of the Repubican Party. Maybe the problem is that what we are dealing with here is not conservatism, but a brand of corporate driven, reactionary politics that is more than willing to use the state as its enforcer and bag man.

I think mreingold should pay a little less attention to the speck that is in the eye of environmentalism, and a little more attention to the log in his own eye.

Randy Cunningham
Cleveland, OH

Randy Cunningham

See if you can spot Sarah Palin's dazzling cameo in that weird, too-cool-to-be-true, BW TV ad, for Korean Airlines.  Hint: high hair, big dark glasses.

Is that global experience, or what?!

At least one American is celebrating: Tina Fey.  The Hollywood producers back on Friday locked her up to play Palin in the movie -- or only after offering her billions.

Chickens deserve our true friendship! So do fish! So do other sentient beings! Let us learn to be kind.

Nice, Randino from Kucinich country, soon to be a destination of pilgrims who love God, and America, and the American people.

MReinbold and his ilk, by contrast, say: "You're on your own"; "God damn love, love is collective."

Chickens deserve our true friendship! So do fish! So do other sentient beings! Let us learn to be kind.

I guess you don't actually have anything positive to say about Palin. Sad... here's your chance to brag about her record as a great conservationist, perhaps persuading a few people that she's not a threat to the environment. Guess you don't really expect your candidate to win in November.

On to other matters...

You wrote...

"Are you a socialist? Do you hate capitalism? The answer to that is pretty obvious."

It certainly isn't obvious to me. Please elaborate. Keep in mind that you are interacting with a stupid liberal. While some of us might be making your points for you and obviously one thing or another, it might not be obvious to to everyone here. So... am I a socialist, do I hate capitalism, and how did you reach these conclusions?

The evidence is stronger than that for manmade global warming.

I love you man.

By the way, I'm not here to defend Obama. Nor am I here to defend Al Gore, Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton, Jimmy Carter, or any other Democrat who has held or run for office. Over the past 26 years, I've voted for Republicans, Democrats, and Libertarians, depending on the specific office and the behavior of the candidates. I admit, I've made a few bad decisions, but I'm not a card-carrying member of an political party.

So don't waste time dredging up other candidates or Democratic issues. Senators Obama and McCain were not my preferred choices on either ticket.

The issue on the table right down is whether Sarah Palin is qualified to lead our nation. And, unless you can provide a really good case, I would choose Obama for President, even if I preferred McCain, simply because I do not want a book-banning anti-science Christian fundamentalist who thinks it is okay to shoot wolves for entertainment a heart beat away from the Presidency. This is not a left vs. right problem. Nothing to do with communism, socialism, or hating capitalism. Nothing to do with a leftist agenda.

Our nation can no longer afford to embrace ignorance and wanton destruction of nature as virtues.

"The evidence is stronger than that for manmade global warming."

Please elaborate.

Go for it, WiscIdea.  Herr Siegfried!  Herr Wotan!  Herr Nibelung!

What I cannot stand is the use by conservatives (such as George Will) of the all-purpose word "collective," and its derivative "collectivist," as somehow evil and diabolic: much as they did with "liberal" a couple of decades ago.

We members of ancient Mediterranean religions, such as Judaism, Eastern Orthodox Christianity and Roman Catholicism, admire collectivism a great deal, and are offended and disgusted by Republicans' constant regular on-going anti-religious super-sneering attack on what we consider to be a principal virtue, as our Lord affirmed: loving a neighbor as one's self.

Chickens deserve our true friendship! So do fish! So do other sentient beings! Let us learn to be kind.

Everything is hitched together. I am my brother's keeper. I am also my planet's keeper. These are notions of collective (gasp! A dirty word) responsibility that mreingold probably has a hard time comprehending, but these are the only notions that will save our undeserving butts over the next century.

In contrast, listen to what one of mreingold's heroes said. I will leave it up to you if it was before or after she got Alzheimers. "There is no such thing as society. There are only individuals and their families." - Margaret Thatcher.

Yup, the conservative creed. No such thing as society, just a battlefield of everyone out for themselves. Me, me, me. Get yours. People who have a hard time feeling any responsibility for other people, will have an even harder time feeling any responsibility for the planet.

If McCain and Pallin get in, close up Grist. The party is over. Scratch another civilization off the old historical record. We will finally fulfill our long term mission of environmenatl suicide.

Randy Cunningham
Cleveland, OH

Randy Cunningham

Kill it dead!

So the benthic sediments are ruined?

News flash:

The majority of your fellow humans are more concerned with AIDS research, daycare, Burning Man motor homes,  continuing abortions, banning guns, and losing the war in Iraq.

All of which are fueled by oil.

Maybe you could link to some horror pics of the benthic disaster to drum up some sympathy.

By the way, try beating someone else over the head with enviro-babble.

Gas chromatography fingerprinting allows us to determine that the hydrocarbons in the benthic sediments of Prince William Sound are the result of natural seepage NOT spilled oil.

Oil is natural. There are organisms that eat it. Oil seeps out of the sea floor.

Get over it.

"...a 90 percent chance that the US has contributed .2 degrees F of temperature increase in the last 50 years..." The IPCC Consensus in perspective

Obama has very little experience doing anything besides running for office and making speeches.

Voting "present" doesn't "change" anything.

Dr. X, I am not a liberal. So I have no need to engage in nonsensical arguments like this. I don't need to hide what I really believe like Obama does.

I support McCain because he represents my world view more so than Obama.

If Obama was not a Wright/Ayers/Frank Marshall Davis communist I would be voting for him. I wish I could vote for him. It would feel great to vote for a black president.

I am troubled that Obama can't be honest about what he really believes.

Guys like Wolverine, I can respect because he freely shares his hatred for this country and his self loathing/ loathing of his fellow humans.

"...a 90 percent chance that the US has contributed .2 degrees F of temperature increase in the last 50 years..." The IPCC Consensus in perspective

Clearly paley, you have plenty of experience.  Hehey.

http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog John Schneider, Northern Wisconsin

Dorothy and the Tin Man are entertaining, but there are serious problems to be solved. Where's the channel changer?

Only in America does somebody who believes that the Earth is 10,000 years old, that creationism should be taught alongside science in our schools, and that gays can be "cured" of their gayness stand a chance of being elected into the White House.

.. well, in the United States and probably in that other fundamentatlist republic known as "Iran", too.

Is the U.S. a great country, or what?

(Meanwhile, the rest of the civilized world laughs at us.  While they happily take our dollars in trade, and quietly zip past us in science and engineering training).