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            <title>Comment #1 by demeest</title>
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				<p><strong>Biokleen</strong></p><p>I was able to find Biokleen at Costco in a huge container for a decent price. &nbsp;It's lasted my husband and I almost a year, and cleans very well. &nbsp;You have to have a membership, but I've found that Costco is carring an increasing number of environmentally friendly products.</p>
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				<p><strong>Biokleen</strong></p><p>I was able to find Biokleen at Costco in a huge container for a decent price. &nbsp;It's lasted my husband and I almost a year, and cleans very well. &nbsp;You have to have a membership, but I've found that Costco is carring an increasing number of environmentally friendly products.</p>
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            <title>Comment #2 by BMendenhall</title>
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				<p><strong>Bulk cleaning products<p>Hi Sharon - I'm guessing you get up to Albuquerque occasionally. &nbsp;Your local co-op - La Montanita - has two locations there. They have nice website at <a href="http://www.lamontanita.coop" rel="nofollow">http://www.lamontanita.coop. One store <br>
store is at:<br>
2400 Rio Grande NW<br>
Albuquerque, NM 87104 &nbsp;<br>
Phone<br>
505-242-8800<p>
The original store is at:<br>
3500 Central SE<br>
Albuquerque, NM 87106<br>
Phone<br>
505-265-4631<p>
Hours for both are:<br>
Monday-Saturday<br>
7am-10pm<p>
Sunday<br>
8am-10pm <p>
Go Co-op! &nbsp;</p></br></p></br></br></p></br></br></br></br></p></br></br></br></br></br></a></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>Bulk cleaning products<p>Hi Sharon - I'm guessing you get up to Albuquerque occasionally. &nbsp;Your local co-op - La Montanita - has two locations there. They have nice website at <a href="http://www.lamontanita.coop" rel="nofollow">http://www.lamontanita.coop. One store <br>
store is at:<br>
2400 Rio Grande NW<br>
Albuquerque, NM 87104 &nbsp;<br>
Phone<br>
505-242-8800<p>
The original store is at:<br>
3500 Central SE<br>
Albuquerque, NM 87106<br>
Phone<br>
505-265-4631<p>
Hours for both are:<br>
Monday-Saturday<br>
7am-10pm<p>
Sunday<br>
8am-10pm <p>
Go Co-op! &nbsp;</p></br></p></br></br></p></br></br></br></br></p></br></br></br></br></br></a></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #3 by daisyalea</title>
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				<p><strong>Believe it or not</strong></p><p>I have found many of my favorite organic shampoo and laundry soaps at costco in very large bulk containers. (We don't have a large co-op where I live). &nbsp;You may want to check your own local store. &nbsp;</p>
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				<p><strong>Believe it or not</strong></p><p>I have found many of my favorite organic shampoo and laundry soaps at costco in very large bulk containers. (We don't have a large co-op where I live). &nbsp;You may want to check your own local store. &nbsp;</p>
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            <title>Comment #4 by Wrightsfd</title>
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				<p><strong>Costco and Trader Joe's</strong></p><p>The Costcos in my area (Chicagoland) are carrying Clorox's new Green Works in large bottles as well as many large containers of organic and eco friendly products. &nbsp;I like their organic instant oatmeal in a massive box.<br>
Trader Joe's also sells a laundry detergent in large quantities if you are luck enough to have one near you.</br></p>
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				<p><strong>Costco and Trader Joe's</strong></p><p>The Costcos in my area (Chicagoland) are carrying Clorox's new Green Works in large bottles as well as many large containers of organic and eco friendly products. &nbsp;I like their organic instant oatmeal in a massive box.<br>
Trader Joe's also sells a laundry detergent in large quantities if you are luck enough to have one near you.</br></p>
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            <title>Comment #5 by levijw</title>
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				<p><strong>Green suds from the Big Box</strong></p><p>Also - buying from a "regular" store - Costco, Sam's Club/Wal*Mart (shudder) and the like, tells them back at corporate that there's a market for this stuff and makes they stock more eco/green/hip products. &nbsp;It's like buying the organic produce from the regular store (only when you can't get it locally, of course). &nbsp;And don't hesitate to ask management if they have it, or can get it (probably can). &nbsp;And if we all keep asking and buying and making noise, the organic, green, sustainable product selection will grow.</p>
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				<p><strong>Green suds from the Big Box</strong></p><p>Also - buying from a "regular" store - Costco, Sam's Club/Wal*Mart (shudder) and the like, tells them back at corporate that there's a market for this stuff and makes they stock more eco/green/hip products. &nbsp;It's like buying the organic produce from the regular store (only when you can't get it locally, of course). &nbsp;And don't hesitate to ask management if they have it, or can get it (probably can). &nbsp;And if we all keep asking and buying and making noise, the organic, green, sustainable product selection will grow.</p>
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            <title>Comment #6 by mxphile</title>
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				<p><strong>Azure Standard, local grocery, Kettle Care</strong></p><p>I get all my bulk eco-products from Azure Standard (azurestandard.com). &nbsp;They are a co-op type of organization. &nbsp;If you live in the northwestern U.S., deliveries (including perishables and frozen foods) are made through their own refrigerated delivery fleet. &nbsp;There is a required minimum order amount of $400, but they have a system where you can either join an existing drop point near you or start one of your own so you can aggregate orders with friends and neighbors to meet the $400 minimum. &nbsp;There is no delivery charge and, in my case, no sales tax. &nbsp; Deliveries are scheduled every 2 or 4 weeks, depending on your area. </p><p>
If you don't live within their delivery area, you can't order perishables and frozen foods, but you can get staples delivered via UPS. The $400 minimum doesn't apply in this case, but you pay for shipping.</p><p>
They have a good selection of, well, everything, &nbsp;from organic frozen meats to 5 gallon buckets of laundry detergent to plant starters to organic cotton underwear to mouthwash. &nbsp;Order a single, case or bulk package of many staple items. &nbsp;Their wide selection and good prices make up for the inconvenience of either ordering $400 at a time or dealing with drop points. &nbsp;We don't have a problem meeting the $400 minimum because we basically do our grocery shopping through Azure and order frozen meats, canned goods, cleaning products, personal hygiene products, etc. &nbsp;But then we order once every 2-3 months and we have two freezers. &nbsp;Word to the wise, though, their fresh produce can be hit or miss. &nbsp;And the eggs aren't super-fresh. &nbsp;We get fresh produce and eggs once a week through our local co-op (Fresh Abundance) and/or our local grocery store.</p><p>
Our local Fred Meyer supermarket also has a nice nutrition center (i.e. where you find the organic products and bulk food bins) and anything the nutrition center normally stocks, as well as a few things that are in their catalog but are not normally stocked, can be ordered by the case (which unfortunately doesn't address the packaging issue). &nbsp;Nutrition center special orders receive a 10% discount, whereas normal grocery special orders do not. &nbsp;So it doesn't hurt to ask your local grocer if you can order by the case or bulk package and if you will receive a discount. &nbsp;I haven't tried, but I imagine that any of the bulk bin items would also be available for order (like oatmeal or flour).</p><p>
For shampoo and conditioner, we get one gallon jugs from Kettle Care. &nbsp;Very, VERY eco-friendly products with a wonderful smell.</p>
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				<p><strong>Azure Standard, local grocery, Kettle Care</strong></p><p>I get all my bulk eco-products from Azure Standard (azurestandard.com). &nbsp;They are a co-op type of organization. &nbsp;If you live in the northwestern U.S., deliveries (including perishables and frozen foods) are made through their own refrigerated delivery fleet. &nbsp;There is a required minimum order amount of $400, but they have a system where you can either join an existing drop point near you or start one of your own so you can aggregate orders with friends and neighbors to meet the $400 minimum. &nbsp;There is no delivery charge and, in my case, no sales tax. &nbsp; Deliveries are scheduled every 2 or 4 weeks, depending on your area. </p><p>
If you don't live within their delivery area, you can't order perishables and frozen foods, but you can get staples delivered via UPS. The $400 minimum doesn't apply in this case, but you pay for shipping.</p><p>
They have a good selection of, well, everything, &nbsp;from organic frozen meats to 5 gallon buckets of laundry detergent to plant starters to organic cotton underwear to mouthwash. &nbsp;Order a single, case or bulk package of many staple items. &nbsp;Their wide selection and good prices make up for the inconvenience of either ordering $400 at a time or dealing with drop points. &nbsp;We don't have a problem meeting the $400 minimum because we basically do our grocery shopping through Azure and order frozen meats, canned goods, cleaning products, personal hygiene products, etc. &nbsp;But then we order once every 2-3 months and we have two freezers. &nbsp;Word to the wise, though, their fresh produce can be hit or miss. &nbsp;And the eggs aren't super-fresh. &nbsp;We get fresh produce and eggs once a week through our local co-op (Fresh Abundance) and/or our local grocery store.</p><p>
Our local Fred Meyer supermarket also has a nice nutrition center (i.e. where you find the organic products and bulk food bins) and anything the nutrition center normally stocks, as well as a few things that are in their catalog but are not normally stocked, can be ordered by the case (which unfortunately doesn't address the packaging issue). &nbsp;Nutrition center special orders receive a 10% discount, whereas normal grocery special orders do not. &nbsp;So it doesn't hurt to ask your local grocer if you can order by the case or bulk package and if you will receive a discount. &nbsp;I haven't tried, but I imagine that any of the bulk bin items would also be available for order (like oatmeal or flour).</p><p>
For shampoo and conditioner, we get one gallon jugs from Kettle Care. &nbsp;Very, VERY eco-friendly products with a wonderful smell.</p>
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            <title>Comment #7 by oldtimey</title>
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				<p><strong>caution on bulk buying</strong></p><p>I don't want to rain on the bulk parade since I also strive to minimize packaging waste, but I do want to point out that one of the components of your carbon footprint is the size of your house (or extra storage space). &nbsp;If you end up increasing your storage area, you may be inadvertently increasing your carbon footprint. &nbsp;If you can stow it in an underutilized space, you may not have a problem, but you may want to factor in your carbon costs if you are creating additional finished areas with racks and lights and things. &nbsp;As we all know, it's about balance.</p>
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				<p><strong>caution on bulk buying</strong></p><p>I don't want to rain on the bulk parade since I also strive to minimize packaging waste, but I do want to point out that one of the components of your carbon footprint is the size of your house (or extra storage space). &nbsp;If you end up increasing your storage area, you may be inadvertently increasing your carbon footprint. &nbsp;If you can stow it in an underutilized space, you may not have a problem, but you may want to factor in your carbon costs if you are creating additional finished areas with racks and lights and things. &nbsp;As we all know, it's about balance.</p>
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            <title>Comment #8 by raevynn</title>
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				<p><strong>Soap nuts<p>I buy my Maggies Soap Nuts from here: <a href="http://www.betterlifegoods.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=BLG-CAT21480" rel="nofollow">http://www.betterlifegoods.com/ProductDetails.asp?Product ...<br>
I can get 5 kilos at a time.<p>
I can also buy gallon jugs of Dr. Bronner's soaps.<p>
That takes care of the bulk of my cleaning. I get my bathroom cleaner by the gallon from my local health food store.</p></p></br></a></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>Soap nuts<p>I buy my Maggies Soap Nuts from here: <a href="http://www.betterlifegoods.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=BLG-CAT21480" rel="nofollow">http://www.betterlifegoods.com/ProductDetails.asp?Product ...<br>
I can get 5 kilos at a time.<p>
I can also buy gallon jugs of Dr. Bronner's soaps.<p>
That takes care of the bulk of my cleaning. I get my bathroom cleaner by the gallon from my local health food store.</p></p></br></a></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #9 by Second Beach</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 01:16:07 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Bio-Pac<p>I buy Bio-Pac's 128 oz detergent - its fairly concentrated, so their standard gallon bottle lasts a long time.<p>
view their wares:<br>
<a href="http://www.bio-pac.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.bio-pac.com/</a></br></p></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>Bio-Pac<p>I buy Bio-Pac's 128 oz detergent - its fairly concentrated, so their standard gallon bottle lasts a long time.<p>
view their wares:<br>
<a href="http://www.bio-pac.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.bio-pac.com/</a></br></p></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #10 by mearph</title>
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				<p><strong>Charlie's Soap<p>Just got some and I love it! &nbsp;It cleans great and dissolved so fast. I never used powdered detergent before but I really like it and you only need a tablespoon. And....it comes in a 5 gal bucket for 1,280 loads. Wow! (I personally have no room for that big boy)<p>
<a href="http://www.charliesoap.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.charliesoap.com/</a></p></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>Charlie's Soap<p>Just got some and I love it! &nbsp;It cleans great and dissolved so fast. I never used powdered detergent before but I really like it and you only need a tablespoon. And....it comes in a 5 gal bucket for 1,280 loads. Wow! (I personally have no room for that big boy)<p>
<a href="http://www.charliesoap.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.charliesoap.com/</a></p></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #11 by tinare23</title>
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				<p><strong>Shaklee Fresh Laundry Liquid Concentrate HE<p>Shaklee is a brand you can only get through a distributor. &nbsp;If you are intereted in the product you can go to <a href="http://www.shaklee.net/ccarroll" rel="nofollow">http://www.shaklee.net/ccarroll<br>
This product is great for high efficency or energy star washers because soap suds are a problem with these washers and the HE compatible formula controls suds. &nbsp;It does not come in a 5 gallon, instead it is 100 oz., but it is triple concentrated so you only need 1-2 oz. of it. &nbsp;</br></a></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>Shaklee Fresh Laundry Liquid Concentrate HE<p>Shaklee is a brand you can only get through a distributor. &nbsp;If you are intereted in the product you can go to <a href="http://www.shaklee.net/ccarroll" rel="nofollow">http://www.shaklee.net/ccarroll<br>
This product is great for high efficency or energy star washers because soap suds are a problem with these washers and the HE compatible formula controls suds. &nbsp;It does not come in a 5 gallon, instead it is 100 oz., but it is triple concentrated so you only need 1-2 oz. of it. &nbsp;</br></a></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #12 by jedimomma</title>
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				<p><strong>Frontier Co-op</strong></p><p>Have you checked into Frontier Co-op stuff? &nbsp;www.frontier.coop &nbsp;You can access their retail catalog online, and buy things in bulk. &nbsp;Also, you might inquire if there is a buying club for Frontier in your area (there is in mine). &nbsp;For buying clubs, you get to buy at the wholesale rate, and if your club order is over $250, you get free shipping. &nbsp;If there's not a club in your area, maybe you have enough interested friends &amp; acquaintances that you could put one together? &nbsp;Frontier has lots and lots of mainline stuff, including natural home &amp; garden products, health &amp; beauty stuff, herbals, spices, and so on, and a lot of well-known name brands (7th Generation and Aura Cacia come to mind). &nbsp;Frontier is frequently the supplier for the spice section of co-ops, too. &nbsp;I really dig my Frontier buying club here. &nbsp;Good luck!</p>
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				<p><strong>Frontier Co-op</strong></p><p>Have you checked into Frontier Co-op stuff? &nbsp;www.frontier.coop &nbsp;You can access their retail catalog online, and buy things in bulk. &nbsp;Also, you might inquire if there is a buying club for Frontier in your area (there is in mine). &nbsp;For buying clubs, you get to buy at the wholesale rate, and if your club order is over $250, you get free shipping. &nbsp;If there's not a club in your area, maybe you have enough interested friends &amp; acquaintances that you could put one together? &nbsp;Frontier has lots and lots of mainline stuff, including natural home &amp; garden products, health &amp; beauty stuff, herbals, spices, and so on, and a lot of well-known name brands (7th Generation and Aura Cacia come to mind). &nbsp;Frontier is frequently the supplier for the spice section of co-ops, too. &nbsp;I really dig my Frontier buying club here. &nbsp;Good luck!</p>
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            <title>Comment #13 by patamino39</title>
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				<p><strong>Bulk laundry for clean clothes<p>I want to second the reply above about using Shaklee Liquid Laundry Concentrate. I have found that it outcleans all the "green" cleaners mentioned above and is super-concentrated so that a bottle lasts a long time. Shaklee Corporation has been the long-time leader in biodegradable and effective cleaners and continues to lead the way in this arena. <br>
You can buy by the bottle or case or whatever suits your storage area and it comes right to your door.<br>
I live in Albuquerque and I am willing to answer any questions for you. <a href="http://www.shaklee.net/pat-morrison" rel="nofollow">http://www.shaklee.net/pat-morrison<br>
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				<p><strong>Bulk laundry for clean clothes<p>I want to second the reply above about using Shaklee Liquid Laundry Concentrate. I have found that it outcleans all the "green" cleaners mentioned above and is super-concentrated so that a bottle lasts a long time. Shaklee Corporation has been the long-time leader in biodegradable and effective cleaners and continues to lead the way in this arena. <br>
You can buy by the bottle or case or whatever suits your storage area and it comes right to your door.<br>
I live in Albuquerque and I am willing to answer any questions for you. <a href="http://www.shaklee.net/pat-morrison" rel="nofollow">http://www.shaklee.net/pat-morrison<br>
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            <title>Comment #14 by Ian Hanington</title>
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				<p><strong>DIY green cleaners<p>You could always make your own:<p>
<a href="http://www.davidsuzuki.org/files/NC/newsletter/Recipes_DSNC_Apr2008.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.davidsuzuki.org/files/NC/newsletter/Recipes_DS ...<p>
<a href="http://www.davidsuzuki.org/NatureChallenge/newsletters/april2008_cleaning/page5.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.davidsuzuki.org/NatureChallenge/newsletters/ap ...</a></p></a></p></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>DIY green cleaners<p>You could always make your own:<p>
<a href="http://www.davidsuzuki.org/files/NC/newsletter/Recipes_DSNC_Apr2008.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.davidsuzuki.org/files/NC/newsletter/Recipes_DS ...<p>
<a href="http://www.davidsuzuki.org/NatureChallenge/newsletters/april2008_cleaning/page5.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.davidsuzuki.org/NatureChallenge/newsletters/ap ...</a></p></a></p></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #15 by jennconspiracy</title>
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				<p><strong>DIY<p>Ian - great minds think alike - I found a great recipe - here are 10 recipes for your own laundry detergent:<p>
<a href="http://www.homesteadblogger.com/HSBFrontPorch/82791/" rel="nofollow">http://www.homesteadblogger.com/HSBFrontPorch/82791/</a></p></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>DIY<p>Ian - great minds think alike - I found a great recipe - here are 10 recipes for your own laundry detergent:<p>
<a href="http://www.homesteadblogger.com/HSBFrontPorch/82791/" rel="nofollow">http://www.homesteadblogger.com/HSBFrontPorch/82791/</a></p></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #16 by seg420</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 01:45:32 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>eco-products in bulk</strong></p><p>Although not "in bulk", I use Shaklee products, which are concentrated so that packaging is significantly reduced. &nbsp;A gallon sized container of laundry liquid lasts my family of 2 more than six months. &nbsp;To cut down on shipping costs and their environmental impact, I order "doubles" when I order.</p><p>
Susi</p>
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				<p><strong>eco-products in bulk</strong></p><p>Although not "in bulk", I use Shaklee products, which are concentrated so that packaging is significantly reduced. &nbsp;A gallon sized container of laundry liquid lasts my family of 2 more than six months. &nbsp;To cut down on shipping costs and their environmental impact, I order "doubles" when I order.</p><p>
Susi</p>
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            <title>Comment #17 by lovelydust</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 12:41:44 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>More soap....</strong></p><p>Here on the West Coast, Oregon Soap Company has looong blocks of soap that can be cut off into any size chunks--&lt;www.oregonsoapcompany.com&gt;, 800-549-0299 (I don't believe they print a catalog).<br>
Sarah</br></p>
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				<p><strong>More soap....</strong></p><p>Here on the West Coast, Oregon Soap Company has looong blocks of soap that can be cut off into any size chunks--&lt;www.oregonsoapcompany.com&gt;, 800-549-0299 (I don't believe they print a catalog).<br>
Sarah</br></p>
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