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            <title>Comment #1 by karenc</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 04:48:40 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Aunt Karlie's puddin'</strong></p><p>Hi Roz- I went to the link but didn't see the recipe...??? Loved the stories but that was the only recipe I thought I might make (and channel Aunt Karlie). &nbsp;Karen</p>
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				<p><strong>Aunt Karlie's puddin'</strong></p><p>Hi Roz- I went to the link but didn't see the recipe...??? Loved the stories but that was the only recipe I thought I might make (and channel Aunt Karlie). &nbsp;Karen</p>
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            <title>Comment #2 by Roz Cummins</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 05:02:52 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>I'll post the recipe for you...</strong></p><p>before Thanksgiving. - Roz</p>
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				<p><strong>I'll post the recipe for you...</strong></p><p>before Thanksgiving. - Roz</p>
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            <title>Comment #3 by Roz Cummins</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 13:39:50 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Here's the URL for Karlie's sweet potato pudding<p>It features the 5th food group - bourbon. I made it tonight to make sure that it is just as delicious as I remember it to be. It is! I used pecans instead of black walnuts.<p>
<a href="http://gristmill.grist.org/story/2006/11/18/172915/30" rel="nofollow">http://gristmill.grist.org/story/2006/11/18/172915/30</a></p></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>Here's the URL for Karlie's sweet potato pudding<p>It features the 5th food group - bourbon. I made it tonight to make sure that it is just as delicious as I remember it to be. It is! I used pecans instead of black walnuts.<p>
<a href="http://gristmill.grist.org/story/2006/11/18/172915/30" rel="nofollow">http://gristmill.grist.org/story/2006/11/18/172915/30</a></p></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #4 by amc89</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 02:33:10 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>tofurkey</strong></p><p>Next year, can you add Tofurkey into the mix? I'd be interested to see how an organic vegetarian "turkey" (there are actually a number of brands besides Tofurkey) compared in cost per pound to the conventional and organic turkeys. I'd suspect the vegetarian versions would be cheaper. </p><p>
The cool thing about Tofurkey is that it comes with stuffing inside, and doesn't take as long to cook. &nbsp;And it's made with certified organic soybeans.</p>
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				<p><strong>tofurkey</strong></p><p>Next year, can you add Tofurkey into the mix? I'd be interested to see how an organic vegetarian "turkey" (there are actually a number of brands besides Tofurkey) compared in cost per pound to the conventional and organic turkeys. I'd suspect the vegetarian versions would be cheaper. </p><p>
The cool thing about Tofurkey is that it comes with stuffing inside, and doesn't take as long to cook. &nbsp;And it's made with certified organic soybeans.</p>
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            <title>Comment #5 by Greta</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 02:36:28 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Close but...</strong></p><p>Now, how about doing a cost comparison for a totally compassionate and eco-frienldy Thanksgiving meal -- that would mean vegan, of course. &nbsp;Better for you, better for the environment.</p><p>
Unfortunately, your dream meal is an eco-bust.</p><p>
And, let's be real. &nbsp;Calling a dish that includes cheese "vegetarian" is most likely a misnomer, as most cheese readily available (particularly hard cheeses) use animal rennet -- the gut of baby cows. So, it really is not vegetarian at all.</p>
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				<p><strong>Close but...</strong></p><p>Now, how about doing a cost comparison for a totally compassionate and eco-frienldy Thanksgiving meal -- that would mean vegan, of course. &nbsp;Better for you, better for the environment.</p><p>
Unfortunately, your dream meal is an eco-bust.</p><p>
And, let's be real. &nbsp;Calling a dish that includes cheese "vegetarian" is most likely a misnomer, as most cheese readily available (particularly hard cheeses) use animal rennet -- the gut of baby cows. So, it really is not vegetarian at all.</p>
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            <title>Comment #6 by zacaroni</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 04:17:41 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Hear, Hear! Greta!</strong></p><p>I'm no vegetarian, PETA nut, or global warming fanatic, but, let's face it: the vast majority of meat production/consumption cannot be called green. &nbsp;</p><p>
Also: WFO, WFC, SMO, SMC? &nbsp;How about FMO or FMC (farmer's market)? &nbsp;Or even W (wild)?</p><p>
Variability aside, I'd much rather see an investigation of the costs of buying locally - or growing/hunting your own. &nbsp;My friends and I are having an organic local feast for Thanksgiving (sans turkey - though here in WI, we could get a wild local one if we wanted to!). &nbsp;I am willing to bet that the cost of our T-Day feast will be far less in both monetary terms and environmental terms than that of an organic Whole Foods sponsored feast.</p>
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				<p><strong>Hear, Hear! Greta!</strong></p><p>I'm no vegetarian, PETA nut, or global warming fanatic, but, let's face it: the vast majority of meat production/consumption cannot be called green. &nbsp;</p><p>
Also: WFO, WFC, SMO, SMC? &nbsp;How about FMO or FMC (farmer's market)? &nbsp;Or even W (wild)?</p><p>
Variability aside, I'd much rather see an investigation of the costs of buying locally - or growing/hunting your own. &nbsp;My friends and I are having an organic local feast for Thanksgiving (sans turkey - though here in WI, we could get a wild local one if we wanted to!). &nbsp;I am willing to bet that the cost of our T-Day feast will be far less in both monetary terms and environmental terms than that of an organic Whole Foods sponsored feast.</p>
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            <title>Comment #7 by Greta</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 04:40:20 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Better yet...</strong></p><p>Yeah, actually, when I first saw the heading "What Price Thanksgiving", I thought that it would be about the environmental cost.</p><p>
Wouldn't it be interesting to take the same "dream menu" (many people's traditional menu; my nightmare menu) and do a side-by-side comparison (organic to conventional; vegan to non-vegan):</p><p>


The environmental cost (soil erosion, pollution, chemicals, solid waste, etc.)</p><p>
The Climate Change cost (carbon footprint of the meal)</p><p>


Thorw in costs for paper napkins used, or laundry required; cost of the electricity to produce the meal. (I could run my house for a month on the electric required to cook a turkey.) Maybe even the carbon expense of travel by Thanksgiving Dinner guests. </p><p>
No doubt that analysis would be pretty depressing.</p><p>
Greta</p><p>
P.S. - I am not suggesting that people do not indulge in these type of infrequent holiday gatherings. &nbsp;But, I would recommend that they bank the carbon and eco credits during the year. Preferably by conservation rather than carbon credits.</p>
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				<p><strong>Better yet...</strong></p><p>Yeah, actually, when I first saw the heading "What Price Thanksgiving", I thought that it would be about the environmental cost.</p><p>
Wouldn't it be interesting to take the same "dream menu" (many people's traditional menu; my nightmare menu) and do a side-by-side comparison (organic to conventional; vegan to non-vegan):</p><p>


The environmental cost (soil erosion, pollution, chemicals, solid waste, etc.)</p><p>
The Climate Change cost (carbon footprint of the meal)</p><p>


Thorw in costs for paper napkins used, or laundry required; cost of the electricity to produce the meal. (I could run my house for a month on the electric required to cook a turkey.) Maybe even the carbon expense of travel by Thanksgiving Dinner guests. </p><p>
No doubt that analysis would be pretty depressing.</p><p>
Greta</p><p>
P.S. - I am not suggesting that people do not indulge in these type of infrequent holiday gatherings. &nbsp;But, I would recommend that they bank the carbon and eco credits during the year. Preferably by conservation rather than carbon credits.</p>
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            <title>Comment #8 by Roz Cummins</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 02:54:02 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Farmers Markets...</strong></p><p>Most of the ones around here had already closed for the season, otherwise I would have included them. If you live someplace where they are open all year, I envy you.</p>
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				<p><strong>Farmers Markets...</strong></p><p>Most of the ones around here had already closed for the season, otherwise I would have included them. If you live someplace where they are open all year, I envy you.</p>
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            <title>Comment #9 by amc89</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 03:25:27 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Some local foods still available</strong></p><p>You can still get local pumpkins, apples, cider, and cranberries from local orchards, and also at Whole Foods. </p>
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				<p><strong>Some local foods still available</strong></p><p>You can still get local pumpkins, apples, cider, and cranberries from local orchards, and also at Whole Foods. </p>
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