<![CDATA[Grist - Comment Feed for Bush, Big Oil offer more of the same]]> Grist Comment Feed en Comment #1 by Alison Wiley http://www.grist.org/article/opec-chief-joins-200-oil-chorus/ Tue, 29 Apr 2008 07:46:58 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/opec-chief-joins-200-oil-chorus/1 Let's take action on the ground!

It's familiar news that most political leaders and business leaders are married to an oil-addicted, business-as-usual scenario, despite the now-famous need for us to sharply reduce our emissions. We citizens need to show leadership on the ground, by consuming less oil and creating fewer emissions. If even a small but solid minority of us do this, it can spur economic transformation and show politicians and businesspeople that change has GOT to happen -- and they'd better not get left behind. For one example of emissions reductions coupled with financial benefits, see my post on Carpooling Is Cool at http://alison97215.wordpress.com.
best,
Alison in Portland, Oregon

]]> Let's take action on the ground!

It's familiar news that most political leaders and business leaders are married to an oil-addicted, business-as-usual scenario, despite the now-famous need for us to sharply reduce our emissions. We citizens need to show leadership on the ground, by consuming less oil and creating fewer emissions. If even a small but solid minority of us do this, it can spur economic transformation and show politicians and businesspeople that change has GOT to happen -- and they'd better not get left behind. For one example of emissions reductions coupled with financial benefits, see my post on Carpooling Is Cool at http://alison97215.wordpress.com.
best,
Alison in Portland, Oregon

]]> Comment #2 by LPS http://www.grist.org/article/opec-chief-joins-200-oil-chorus/ Tue, 29 Apr 2008 10:24:58 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/opec-chief-joins-200-oil-chorus/2 How soon $200 oil?

I don't think it is a stretch to believe that oil will hit $200/barrel long before 2012. If so, gas prices are likely to go far above $4/gallon. Not simply higher prices, but the possibility of shortages may also become a reality. This would be a serious condition. By some estimates, the price of gas is the number one issue in the nation. By 2012, the price energy (along with the price of everything else), and even the availability of energy may be the only issue anybody will care about.

]]> How soon $200 oil?

I don't think it is a stretch to believe that oil will hit $200/barrel long before 2012. If so, gas prices are likely to go far above $4/gallon. Not simply higher prices, but the possibility of shortages may also become a reality. This would be a serious condition. By some estimates, the price of gas is the number one issue in the nation. By 2012, the price energy (along with the price of everything else), and even the availability of energy may be the only issue anybody will care about.

]]> Comment #3 by Pangolin http://www.grist.org/article/opec-chief-joins-200-oil-chorus/ Tue, 29 Apr 2008 10:43:02 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/opec-chief-joins-200-oil-chorus/3 Shortages

I'm not saying there are shortages of gas but I'm seeing closed pumps at gas stations a lot more than I remember ever seeing before. I would say that supplies are tight.

Put the Carbon Back

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I'm not saying there are shortages of gas but I'm seeing closed pumps at gas stations a lot more than I remember ever seeing before. I would say that supplies are tight.

Put the Carbon Back

]]> Comment #4 by Delay And Deny http://www.grist.org/article/opec-chief-joins-200-oil-chorus/ Tue, 29 Apr 2008 11:17:58 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/opec-chief-joins-200-oil-chorus/4 Supply...demand...whatever...

I would say that supplies are tight.

Or, you might say that demand is slow.

There's more unknowns than equations.

Gas usage in the Puget Sound per capita is down to 1966 [sic] levels according to the Seattle Times!

Refineries are cutting supply.

I think we're going for it -- Cold Turkey from oil with some solar and wind methadone to ease the transition.

Texeme.Construct(Participant)


]]> Supply...demand...whatever...

I would say that supplies are tight.

Or, you might say that demand is slow.

There's more unknowns than equations.

Gas usage in the Puget Sound per capita is down to 1966 [sic] levels according to the Seattle Times!

Refineries are cutting supply.

I think we're going for it -- Cold Turkey from oil with some solar and wind methadone to ease the transition.

Texeme.Construct(Participant)


]]> Comment #5 by Tasermons Partner http://www.grist.org/article/opec-chief-joins-200-oil-chorus/ Tue, 29 Apr 2008 13:57:39 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/opec-chief-joins-200-oil-chorus/5 Conservatives are frightened...

...'cause when gas reaches $4 a gallon, people tend to vote Democrat.

]]> Conservatives are frightened...

...'cause when gas reaches $4 a gallon, people tend to vote Democrat.

]]> Comment #6 by Jonas http://www.grist.org/article/opec-chief-joins-200-oil-chorus/ Wed, 30 Apr 2008 04:11:38 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/opec-chief-joins-200-oil-chorus/6 The oil catastrophy persists

Oil at $120 is already a disaster, threatening hundreds of millions of poor people. High oil is the key factor responsible for pushing up food prices and prices for everything else.

More than 50 governments in the South are already seeing all their development efforts destroyed because of crazy oil.

When oil stood at $60, the UN's bioenergy task force said:

"Recent oil price increases have had devastating effects on many of the world's poor countries, some of which now spend as much as six times as much on fuel as they do on health. Others spend twice the money on fuel as they do on poverty alleviation. And in still others, the foreign exchange drain from higher oil prices is five times the gain from recent debt relief."

Now, with prices twice as high, we are dealing with the biggest socio-economic catastrophy since the Second World War.

Oil at $200 is unimaginable and basically means the death call for most developing countries.

What can we do to limit the already catasrtophic damages? Our safest bet is of course to invest massively in biofuels in Africa and Latin America.

]]> The oil catastrophy persists

Oil at $120 is already a disaster, threatening hundreds of millions of poor people. High oil is the key factor responsible for pushing up food prices and prices for everything else.

More than 50 governments in the South are already seeing all their development efforts destroyed because of crazy oil.

When oil stood at $60, the UN's bioenergy task force said:

"Recent oil price increases have had devastating effects on many of the world's poor countries, some of which now spend as much as six times as much on fuel as they do on health. Others spend twice the money on fuel as they do on poverty alleviation. And in still others, the foreign exchange drain from higher oil prices is five times the gain from recent debt relief."

Now, with prices twice as high, we are dealing with the biggest socio-economic catastrophy since the Second World War.

Oil at $200 is unimaginable and basically means the death call for most developing countries.

What can we do to limit the already catasrtophic damages? Our safest bet is of course to invest massively in biofuels in Africa and Latin America.

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